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Old 10-22-2006, 06:50 PM   #1  
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Question VersaMark versus Embossing Pad...

What is the difference in these two pads. I have always used VersaMark when embossing. Would I get a better effect using the embossing pads? I just don't know anything about them. Any info would be greatly appreciated.:confused:
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What is the difference in these two pads. I have always used VersaMark when embossing. Would I get a better effect using the embossing pads? I just don't know anything about them. Any info would be greatly appreciated.:confused:
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Your results would be the same. Both pads are sticky and will hold embossing powder well. But- Versamark is so cool for so many other things like the VersaMark resist technique. Also, VersaMark leaves a nice watermark behind for a subtle stamped look. Some embossing pads don't. They dry and then you can't see them anymore.
My choice would be VersaMark.
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My embossing pad is rather "gluey" so it holds more powder than Versa-Mark. But it would never work for some of the other techniques. For instance, it make a real mess with chalk and cotton balls so I use Versa-Mark for that.
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I prefer my versamark hands down! The only thing I notice and probably because I use the darn thing so much is that when it is not holding onto the EP it usually just needs to be reinked.
I actually have three VM pads, just in case I can't find one. I also have regular embossing pads but they never seem to get used.
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I have a regular embossing pad that I bought when I was just getting started - only used it a few times before going exclusively to my VM padS! I keep one for watermarks & 1 for EP (because I got it too messy). The embossing pad is sitting there being very lonely.
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does anyone know if the clear embossing cartridge for the wheels will leave a watermark if you don't emboss it?
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Hmm I will have to look into the versamark resist?
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does anyone know if the clear embossing cartridge for the wheels will leave a watermark if you don't emboss it?
It doesn't. For that, I bought an empty cartridge and a versamark refill. It works great! I can do embossing and poppin pastels too!
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I love versamark because you can do more with it then just embossing. I do believe you cannot do the same techniques with the tinted embossing pad.
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thanks joann!

i also just searched other threads about the wheel and versamark or clear ink as i was interested in this idea. someone on another thread suggested ordering the clear embossing cartridge with refill, but using the versamark ink refill in it instead. she said that the clear embossing cartridge is a little spongier than the regular empty cartridges and works better with the thick ink.

hope this helps someone out! i'm going to give it a try...
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I'm pretty sure I found all this information here at SCS and saved in one.

Versatile VersaMark . . .
One Pad Many Great Uses
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1. A TRULY CLEAR EMBOSSING PAD � Use like you would the Top Boss. Just stamp and emboss with colored powder or clear powder for a see through shine.

2. A WATERMARK � This is great for backgrounds, it will deepen the shade of colored paper wherever you stamp. Just think about this, for every color of paper you own, you now have a complementary color of ink!

3. POPPIN� PASTELS � There are a couple of ways to accomplish this effect on light colored card stocks. 1.) Apply chalks to the area to be stamped, stamp with VersaMark and allow to dry or use heat gun. Then rub gently with a clean cotton ball. You can get a dramatic effect by adding more chalk to a cotton ball or dauber after you stamped with the VersaMark. Or you can emboss while stamped image is still wet with clear embossing powder and the image will jump out at you! 2.) Stamp first then chalk
gently over the stamped area and watch the image �magically� appear. You can follow this same
technique but replace Pearl Ex Pigment Powders in place of chalks.

4. REVERSE PASTELS (AKA PULLIN� PASTELS) � This time you use brightly colored chalk to cover dark colored card stock (Basic Black, Night of Navy, Close to Cocoa, Old Olive, etc.) and then stamp over the chalked area. The ink will pull out the color of the paper from beneath the chalk. Be sure to clean the stamp before re-inking it as the chalk you removed is now on your stamp and you will dirty your VersaMark pad.

5. SHADOWING � This is a technique to use with Spectrum pads and word stamps but you can use it for anything really. Just stamp directly over your first image. Because you will seldom be exact you will make a shadow that gives the initial image a 3-D effect. You can even take it a step further and emboss with a transparent powder like Pearl or Iridescent Ice.

6. BRAYER RESIST � This technique looks great when done with VersaMark. Stamp image(s) onto Glossy White card stock. Gently wipe away the ink using a lotion-free tissue and small circular motion. Ink up your brayer and roll it over the paper. Wherever the VersaMark ink was stamped, the paper will resist the colored ink from your brayer. This works on matte card stock but looks better on glossy.

7. VERSAMARK & 2-STEP STAMPIN � Stamp the same image first w/VersaMark & then with metallic (Encore). Just shift the image a little bit when stamping the metallic ink. It gives it a shadowed look. Looks great on baroque burgundy and forest foliage!

8. EMBOSSING ON GLASS � Using the embossing buddy first, then using the VersaMark to stamp the image on a glass container, then emboss with detail gold or silver. Fill it with candy and tie a ribbon on it.

9. EMBOSSING WITH YOUR 48 STAMPIN! UP PADS � Ink your stamp with VersaMark, then stamp on one of our 48 color pads or you can use a dauber to apply the color ink if you are worried about the color pad. Stamp and use clear embossing powder. Heat. Now you can emboss and be perfectly coordinated with the SU! Markers, cardstock and ink pads. Be certain to clean stamp before re-inking on VersaMark pad or you will leave color on it.

10. DISCREET JOURNALING LINES � Although the VersaMark ink is sticky when applied, it dries like regular ink and loses the stickiness. It is Acid-free and safe for scrapbook pages. It works perfectly on all of our colored cardstock.

11. BATIK TECHNIQUE � Simply stamp your image using Versamark on ultrasmooth white or confetti or some other light CS and then emboss with clear embossing powder. Let cool. Then gently wad paper into a ball or you could fold it into a small square for a different look. Unfold it and smooth it out. Place it on a towel and wet with water so the paper is very damp. Next ink your brayer with a Spectrum pad and brayer across the paper. The image will stay white while the ink will seep into cracks and the rest of the paper will have a batik look. (Like back in the 70�s when you applied wax to a pattern on a shirt and then dipped it in dye, cooled and chipped the wax away. Like far out man!)

12. EMBOSSING BRADS � Another great use for versamark... Take a brass fastener, pinch it in a clothes pin, dip the head in versamark, then dip in embossing powder, heat with heat gun, while powder is still wet, dip again in embossing powder & heat one last time. After it cools down you will have a nice enamel type colored coating on your fastener.

13. PRESERVING CHILDREN�S HAND PRINTS � Versamark is a great pigment ink to use on little kids' hands to make embossed hand prints, because it is clear and cleans up easily. Grown-ups should do the embossing of the sweet little hand prints since the powder can be messy and the heat gun is hot. But let the little ones watch their handprint turn to gold or silver before their eyes � they LOVE it! And I'm sure you can imagine how the moms, dads, or grandparents will love their precious one's little handprint preserved in gold!

14. HEAT & STICK � Use it with heat and stick powder to add glittery glitz or flocking to any project.

15. A PROTECTIVE COATING FOR SCISSORS � Rub on your Craft & Rubber Scissors and it will keep them from getting all gunky with sticky stuff.

16. CLEAR EMBOSS RESIST � Use it with clear embossing powder on white, vanilla, naturals, confetti, kraft or any soft colored paper. Then sponge over the clear embossed image and watch it pop out.

17. POLY SHRINK � Use it on poly shrink projects. After you shrink your item press it into the versamark pad. Add the clear or translucent powder of your choice and heat. Repeat till you get the thickness and look you want.

18. FULL COVERAGE EMBOSSING � Brayer with the versamark over a stamped image and use glassy glaze embossing powder. This will give you an all over gloss. Repeat till it is the thickness you want.

19. SOOT STAMPING � Hold glossy card stock over an oil lamp with the flame turned up high to leave deposits of soot on it. Using a clean stamp, ink it with the versamark pad and then stamp on the soot. The stamp removes the soot and leaves a bit different effect than if you stamp with just the bare rubber. Be sure to clean stamp inbetween EACH time you stamp on your soot project so you won't get any of it on your VM pad. You must then spray with a fixative.

20. VERSAMARK IS FOR KIDS!! Versamark is a GREAT kid's inkpad. Just let the little ones stamp their little hearts out without ever worrying about an ink mess on those precious little hands or faces or table . . . or anything else for that matter! It doesn't stain the wood on the stamps either. Encourage your young ones to watch for the "magic ink" . . . Just a second of waiting and they will see the image magically appear. This is great for elementary students in a classroom sitting too.

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VersaMarker . . . Great Uses

* Use it on dark cardstock to add details - such as stitch marks, dots or other designs.
* Great for embossing personal messages.
* Use it to create subtle lines for journaling in your scrapbook.
* Great for creating shadows for stamped images or stamped greetings.
* Use it to touch up any broken lines or thin spots that were �missed� during the standard heat
embossing process. Just touch it to the thin spots, sprinkle on a little more powder and heat it.
Now you have a solidly embossed image.
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Here the answer to the wheel question.


VersaMark Re-Inker In Wheel Cartridges

YES you can ink up an empty Stampin' Around cartridge with the VersaMark ink! As a matter of fact, I now only use VersaMark ink for all my (clear) embossing needs. I have said �so long� to my old clear embossing inks that were never really clear anyway.

Here are some ideas for using the wheel when inked with the VersaMark refill:

* Doing this allows you to make your own designer background paper for scrapbooking. Or roll a whole sheet of card stock at once and cut it into 1/4 sheet size and now you have the first layer for 4 quick cards.

* Ink up your cartridge with VersaMark and roll onto card stock. Then use your chalks and sponge applicator to do the Poppin� Pastels technique. This makes a great background or foreground to attach to any card.

* Create some Pearl Ex "Zing". The VersaMark ink is the best ink to use when doing the dry application method with Pearl Ex. Simply roll your versamark inked wheel onto your paper and use a soft bristled paint brush to apply the Pearl Ex powder. You will be amazed with how easy this is and how stunning the results!

* Use it to create Quick Wrappers:
~ Make candy bar wrappers. You can even sprinkle on embossing powder and heat set if you choose. Sprinkle on several different colors of embossing powder for a trendy look.
~ Make a wrap around for a candle. Roll onto card stock and mix several colors of embossing powder to create your own special design. I love the look I achieved when mixing white with red and using that in conjunction with the Candy Cane Christmas Wheel or the Candy Wheel. Then wrap around a matching red candle and tie with Raffia.

* Roll onto Vellum and emboss with gold embossing powder. This technique makes beautiful tea light lamp shades or is a great way to add a front layer to that special wedding card.


Tips:
* When inking a dry cartridge for the first time it may take several hours for the VersaMark ink to fully penetrate the cartridge. The VersaMark is a very thick ink and it takes time to sink into the sponge in the cartridge, but with patience it'll be worth the effort!

* Here is a little "trick" you may want to try to ink the cartridge for the first time ONLY. . . before inking with the VersaMark put a little standard clear embossing ink refill onto the dry cartridge but only enough to moisten it. Then slowly add the VM section by section rolling the wheel with your finger until you have completed inking the entire wheel.

* You may need to re-ink before every use. You will get much clearer lines and deeper images.
I use the stipple brushes we sell on page 230 to apply the pearl ex where I've stamped with Versamark and it works great! Stipple it on, then brush off the excess.
I also use the VersaMark pad and the stipple brushes we sell. I apply the Pearl Ex in a gentle (gentle, but not slow) circular motion, then brush off the excess using the same brush. I have no trouble at all with excess staying around except with the 'Antique Gold' but since that wasn't a favorite of mine, I just don't use it.
I stamped bug bldrs on taken with teal c.s. with versamark. Then used makeup applicator to smear on pearl ex powders (spring green, brilliant yellow and flamingo pink)all on the image. Then tried to wipe off/brush off excess. It was no use the pearl ex seemed to have settled onto the c.s. around the image. If anyone has any hints to correct this problem, I would much appreciate the advice. In other words, I have no idea how to do this technique correctly with the pearl ex powders.
I love to use versamark too! Those pens are so nice to directly use on projects and no major mess to clean up especially at demos. But as far as the pad goes, the best way I found to clean it up easily is to spray the stampin' mist directly on the stamp. I found any type of pigment inks or metallics needs the dose of stampin' mist directly on the stamp and not just a little rub on a sprayed stampin scrub pads. If on hand I do use paper towels to help wash off a majority of the versamark off the rubber stamp after the initial dose of sprayed mist on the rubber stamp.
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Roxie - Thanks for sharing so much great stuff about Versamark!
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WOW!!! Thanks for all of the info on how to use the Versamark - I've been struggling with it for awhile and now I can't wait to try some of these projects! I think quite a few people will be getting embossed handprints for Christmas this year ;)
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Thanks to everyone! I thought maybe I should purchase the embossing pad, but I think I will just stick with the versamark. I love it and do love the versa pen. I need to practice with some of the techniques. I'm still having trouble using it, then the heat and stick, and then glitter, etc. I am still pretty new to this technique. I appreciate everyone's detailed responses! Thanks!!
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I tested them both with a fine a*muse image this past week. I found that side by side the Top Boss pad gives a crisper embossed image. The Versamark seems to bleed a little or allow the heated EP to spread slightly.

If you not a perfectionist like me, then don't worry about the difference! ;D
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I haven't tried anything other than pigment ink and Versamark for embossing, but I do find that the paper/cardstock also makes a difference. When embossing on whisper white, the ink seems to stay wet a little longer than on colored SU cardstock.
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I tested both of these with a group of 10 of us, and we preferred the Versa Mark. It gave a cleaner image when used with embossing powders. It is also untinted, so it's better for watermarks or clear embossing powder. The Top Boss seemed too wet. That's just my 2 1/2 cents worth. :o)
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. PRESERVING CHILDREN’S HAND PRINTS — Versamark is a great pigment ink to use on little kids' hands to make embossed hand prints, because it is clear and cleans up easily. Grown-ups should do the embossing of the sweet little hand prints since the powder can be messy and the heat gun is hot. But let the little ones watch their handprint turn to gold or silver before their eyes — they LOVE it! And I'm sure you can imagine how the moms, dads, or grandparents will love their precious one's little handprint preserved in gold!


LOVE this idea! Can be done with a newbornr and then monthly till one year oldand yearly after that to clearly marks growth stages!! Great idea for scrapbooking or shadow boxes.. You rock ...thanks for sharing.. Now my Query.. the gals got my versamark dirty ( I too have 3) any way to clean it?? Just hopeful.. :}
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Wow, thanks for all the hints. This is great reference material.
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Thanks for posting this Rox71 and to the person that originally posted. I have put both into PDF for those that want to download it.
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thanks joann!

i also just searched other threads about the wheel and versamark or clear ink as i was interested in this idea. someone on another thread suggested ordering the clear embossing cartridge with refill, but using the versamark ink refill in it instead. she said that the clear embossing cartridge is a little spongier than the regular empty cartridges and works better with the thick ink.

hope this helps someone out! i'm going to give it a try...
I wondered how people got this to work... LOL I tried it with the regular empty cartridge and didn't liek the results... but I will definitely try it with the other cartridge... thanks for posting this!
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Originally Posted by Kelster
Thanks to everyone! I thought maybe I should purchase the embossing pad, but I think I will just stick with the versamark. I love it and do love the versa pen. I need to practice with some of the techniques. I'm still having trouble using it, then the heat and stick, and then glitter, etc. I am still pretty new to this technique. I appreciate everyone's detailed responses! Thanks!!
I know I make sure my VM is nice and juicy when I have lots of embossing to do... I have 3 of them... LOL and love them all! It wa the first ink pad I bought when I started... and used it for almost everything I did! If it is left open to the air alot it will dry a bit like the staz on does... reinking always does the trick.
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:32 AM   #27  
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I'm a VersaMark fan for sure! I often use it for my background work and the occasional heat embossing. I've also been told that if you cant get your black ink off of your stamp, ink it up w/VersaMark, let it sit overnite then try cleaning again with the Stampin Up scrubby pad.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:48 PM   #28  
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Thank you all for the helpful hints and comments. Once again you gals are great!
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Old 10-29-2006, 02:12 AM   #29  
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I just purchased another VersaMark pad - and several other items. It seems I just can't make one purchase at a time!!!
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