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Thinking of getting a Bind It All, opinions wanted
Would love to know anyone's experience with it.
I've watched the videos and it seems pretty good. But maybe there's something better out there.
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I love and adore the Cinch. I've heard that it's easier on the hands because of the way it's designed and the pages/covers lay flat as you're punching the holes. It also has some handy features like hooks to hold the O-wires while you're adding your pages, which sounds minor until you do a 50-page book
Looked at both. The Bind It All does square "holes" and the Cinch does round ones, it looks like. I like the round ones.
Looks like the Bind It All would close the rings more easily, you don't have to hold the rings in place and you close them, they sit in a channel for closing.
Like the fact that the Cinch has the holder for putting the pages on the rings and that the pages lie flat when you are punching, but the fact that the Bind It All requires you to slip the pages upright in a slit would make it easier not to misalign the pages and end up with holes off the page.
That's what I am noticing.
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but the fact that the Bind It All requires you to slip the pages upright in a slit would make it easier not to misalign the pages and end up with holes off the page.
With the Cinch, you insert the pages flat into the punch area, and they hit the back and can't go any further. The pages also align with the ruler guide on the left side, so the pages can't slide off the side. They are in the right place every time. I could never achieve this while holding an entire batch of pages straight up! Maybe others are more flexible than me :-)
Looked at both. The Bind It All does square "holes" and the Cinch does round ones, it looks like. I like the round ones.
Looks like the Bind It All would close the rings more easily, you don't have to hold the rings in place and you close them, they sit in a channel for closing.
Like the fact that the Cinch has the holder for putting the pages on the rings and that the pages lie flat when you are punching, but the fact that the Bind It All requires you to slip the pages upright in a slit would make it easier not to misalign the pages and end up with holes off the page.
That's what I am noticing.
There are round & square hole versions of the Cinch:
FYI - The BIA & Cinch use the same wires, so you can stock up when you find a sale.
I have the Bind-It-All V2 (pink one). It comes with a really nice zippered bag for storage or taking to crops. I have used it quite a bit over the years. It even cuts heavy chipboard, like the pages of those children's board books. But . . .
As others have said, the Bind-It-All takes quite a bit of effort to punch through many pages or heavier material. I have to stand up to push the down the bar when I'm cutting a thick layer. The Cinch looks like it takes some effort too, but the ergonomics might be better on the Cinch since you have a U-shaped bar and a wider base instead of an I-shaped bar and a small base, plus a pull-out gizmo in the back (which I almost always forget to use).
The Cinch will also cut more holes at once. Also, if you're cutting the center of your project you can tell the machine to punch only three or four or five holes. With the Bind-It-All, punches will create holes whether you want six or not.
Here is the Cinch in action:
I sometimes have problems getting my holes lined up exactly on my Bind-It-All, but that's a user error. It's because I tend to forget to use the Setting B guide bar on the side of the machine (Setting B shown in this video: )
Overall, it appears the Cinch is the most flexible and easiest machine to use. But I think the actual binding (cinching of the O-rings) will likely be easiest on the Bind-It-All. Also, since there are no pegs to push or pull, you won't have the problems some people have had with the pegs getting stuck or not working. In other words, either machine will likely give you lots of fun as well as a little frustration. :-)
I have both colors of the bind it all AAnnnd the Cinch.
I like the BIA maybe because it was my first binding machine. I have the Heidi Swap Cinch which is a square hole. I'm still getting use to doing the measurements and pulling out the tabs and so on. It does well with punching but I've had to watch numerous videos on lining it up and how to only bind smaller then 6 inch books and such.
I got frustrated lol So I haven't used a binding machine at all lately.
I have a bind it all and a cinch. I love them both. My bind it all has the little rectangle openings and the cinch has the circle openings. I say they are both good.
I think I'm going to go with the Bind It All, after reading these posts and watching a lot of videos comparing them.
They both look good. But the BIA just feels like a better choice for me.
Thanks, everyone!
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I gave my Cinch a workout and didn't worry about mistakes by making little notebooks for the first grade classes I volunteered in. I saved boxes from mac & cheese, cake mix, cereal, etc., and used them for covers. I bought pads of ruled & plain paper from the dollar store for the pages. The kids (and teachers) loved them and I got a good understanding of my Cinch.
FYI - The holes of Cinch match the Crop-a-dile. Same punch as the ones on the Cinch, whatever you can punch with the CAD will punch in the Cinch.
I have a Bind It All and really like it for small projects, like making mini notepads. It doesn't take up a lot of space, which is a must in my apartment. But if you plan to bind larger projects, the Cinch would probably be easier and quicker.
I can see why you would say that, Leah. And the round holes (which I think look odd on a smaller project) would be the right size for a larger one.
On the BIA, is six the least number of holes you can make? That occurred to me. Seems like with the Cinch you can make fewer if you want.
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You can make fewer than 6 holes with the Bind It All too--and it's very easy. It's just if you want to do more than 6, the BIA is a little less convenient.
On the BIA, is six the least number of holes you can make? That occurred to me. Seems like with the Cinch you can make fewer if you want.
The only way to do less than six holes is to make sure you paper is not in the punching area. All six sections punch when you press the handle. So, if you have a piece that is 6" wide and you want only four holes in the center, you are out of luck because you're going to get six holes.
Now, if you want to put in four holes, two on each end, then you put your paper in part way so as only to punch two holes. Flip and punch the other two. But they will be on the very tip of each end.
With the Cinch, you push & pull the knobs to tell the machine which holes to punch and which ones not to punch. If you want, you can do every other hole -- but your wire won't fit unless you cut each loop into a single piece.
Just an update. I got the Bind It All. My first project was to take apart a paperbound book about vintage card making that I like to use for inspiration sometimes. It always frustrated me that the book wouldn't lie flat (lay flat?). Now it's a spiral-bound book! I am happy. And it was a good first project, because even though the book was big, it didn't really matter how perfect it came out, as long as it "worked". I learned a lot doing it.
I can see why some people like the Cinch. I especially see why having both would be nice. I like the small size of the BIA, and the set-up the BIA uses to close the rings seems better than the Cinch, and I wanted to start with the rectangular "holes", but I'm sure the Cinch is easier to punch with because of the way the handle is set, and round holes would be a nice option.
Thank you everyone for your help.
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