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Old 09-26-2008, 10:40 AM   #1  
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I was wondering what tools you'd recommend that will help me make #10 business size 4-1/8" x 9-1/2" envelopes?
I'm planning to use wallpaper samples and maybe other papers later.

So far I've looked online and seen the Enveloper and Kreat-a-lope (I think that's the name).
Most other tools don't seem to make the #10 business size envie.

I'd love to get your opinions and experiences on any devices or techniques you've tried or seen. to make #10 envies.

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I have a couple of the Kreate-a-lope templates, but not the #10 size.

I would probably just take apart an envelope and make a template from that. Then, trace around and cut. Not too good for mass production, but would work for a few at least.
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The Envelope Mill (ISBN 1-56530-149- has 3 templates, including a #10; #1 is 3 5/8" x 5 1/8" (A4 envelope), #2 is 4 3/4" x 6 1/2" (#6 envelopes), and #3 is 4 1/8" x 9 1/2" (legal size envelope). I've had these templates since 1993. Here is the Amazon.com URL: http://www.amazon.com/Envelope-Mill-.../dp/1565301498.

Good luck! You can use the ISBN # to see if your local bookstore can get it.
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Hi, thanks for responding

How do you like the Kreate-a-lope template? Do you think it speeds things up? I want to make a bunch probabaly 1-3 times a month so am hoping to find anything to help but at a decent price also.
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I have a couple of the Kreate-a-lope templates, but not the #10 size.

I would probably just take apart an envelope and make a template from that. Then, trace around and cut. Not too good for mass production, but would work for a few at least.
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Thanks for the tip, looks cool!

I'll be on the hunt for this. I saw that they sell it used via the link from amazon so I'll look at those and see if I can find it locally also. Thanks again!

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The Envelope Mill (ISBN 1-56530-149- has 3 templates, including a #10; #1 is 3 5/8" x 5 1/8" (A4 envelope), #2 is 4 3/4" x 6 1/2" (#6 envelopes), and #3 is 4 1/8" x 9 1/2" (legal size envelope). I've had these templates since 1993. Here is the Amazon.com URL: http://www.amazon.com/Envelope-Mill-.../dp/1565301498.

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I have the Kreate-a-lope templates and I also got the Enveloper from HSN when it was a todays special.

I think of the two, the Enveloper is much faster. You cut your paper ahead of time to the dimensions they say, and then put it on the gadget and score the fold lines.

By the way, I had to adjust which lines I used to score for an envie to fit a standard size card, 4-1/4 x 5-1/2. It is made in England and they have different sizes than we do for paper products.

The Kreate-a-lope takes a little longer, but I do use my paper cutter to make the right size squares to start with. Then you put a template in the middle of the square and fold the envelope around it instead of scoring and folding.
I think they have a video on their website that shows the process.

So, the Kreate-a-lope is a little cheaper I think, but I like the Enveloper better.

Lots of people use the Score Pal to make envies. There are different formulas on their website for where you score the lines. It seemed more complicated to me, so I don't do that.

I think we have too many choices, lol.
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Thanks for the tip, looks cool!

I'll be on the hunt for this. I saw that they sell it used via the link from amazon so I'll look at those and see if I can find it locally also. Thanks again!
It isn't as easy to use as the modern tools (mentioned above), but you CAN make just about any size envelope, but you'll have to THINK and have a ruler and pen/pencil ready (to make both sides the same size...eyeballing doesn't work too well ). Of course, since you're primarily interested in the standard #10, you'll have no problem!

Depending on what you have in mind for you envie paper, you can also orient your main picture vertically instead of the usual horizontal method (See attached - it's from an oversize Macy's ad...naturally, after asking my neighbor to save them for me, they stopped printing them ). You may have to put the address labels and stamp on the back, if it interfers with the picture too much.

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Neat looking envies cardmaker01, very eye catching!

Have an update! My DH used a nice piece of leftover plexiglass and cut me a #10 envelope template! It's really nice and works well. I made one envie last night and hope to make more tonight. yipee
Been checking to be sure the stick glue stick is holding, so far it's fine.

Thanks again for the help & tips ladies!
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Thank YOU, mbossy!

And congratulations on having a crafty husband! Some him MY way, I could use some stencils created! And here I thought cutting on thick plastic was difficult...but plexiglass?!?!?!?

You could also use a regular or colored paper #10, cut out the size of a picture (4 x 6, or 3 x5, etc.) in the center of the front of the envie and place/tape acetate inside (or the backside of the paper) making the picture the focal point of the envie. Just think: glaring yellow/orange/red eyes on black paper! Or Santa's eyes on green or red paper. Or I did one with an Endangered Species Tiger chocolate bar wrapper on tiger stipped paper (the tiger had an effective glare ).

Shoot! Who needs cards when the envies are so much fun! LOL
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Neat looking envies cardmaker01, very eye catching!

Have an update! My DH used a nice piece of leftover plexiglass and cut me a #10 envelope template! It's really nice and works well. I made one envie last night and hope to make more tonight. yipee
Been checking to be sure the stick glue stick is holding, so far it's fine.

Thanks again for the help & tips ladies!
I wonder if one could easily make a template set out of quilting template plastic? That can be cut with regular scissors. You could make one using the opened up #10 envelope to trace the outside. Then you could make one of the folded up #10 envelope to use your embossing tool or bone folder to make the appropriate creases. Then the envelope could quickly and easily be folded to shape. What do you think of this?
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You can buy stencil plastic very reasonably (there are at least 3 pieces in the package) that can be cut with scissors or and exacto knife. I do it all time. I am an envelope fanatic! I even LOVE to line them, so I have made my own liner templates.
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Wow you all have some great ideas. I never thought of quilters template plastic, never knew you could buy stencil plastic either. Very clever!

cardmaker01, my DH used a reciprocating saw to cut the template, it's about a 1/4 inch thick so it doesn't move when I'm using it. He is already thinking of improvements for another one lol I'm very lucky!

Thanks again ladies, I love reading all of your creative ideas and tips. Very inspiring.
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You all have some great ideas for making templates. Just thought I would post my experience -- in case anyone needs to know.

I have the Enveloper. It makes envelopes very easily.

Main problem is that it was designed in Europe so their measurements don't seem to be exactly right for the U.S. size envelopes. It took a couple of tries to figure out that cutting the size of the paper down a little makes the envelope fit much better.

So for an A2 envelope you need to start with an 8" square of paper -not 8.25 as they suggest.
For a #10 envelope you need to start with a 9.75" square instead of the 10" they suggest.

It really works great. I just had to do some experimenting to get the U.S. sizes right.
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I wonder if one could easily make a template set out of quilting template plastic? That can be cut with regular scissors. You could make one using the opened up #10 envelope to trace the outside. Then you could make one of the folded up #10 envelope to use your embossing tool or bone folder to make the appropriate creases. Then the envelope could quickly and easily be folded to shape. What do you think of this?
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I don't see why not. The best plastic is as clear as possible and stiff but not too stiff (too thin and it will buckle when you try to trace around it, and too stiff will be hard to move when needed for picture adjustment). The clarity isn't so much a factor when using plain or patterned paper, but really makes a difference when trying to locate a line or not cutting off your picture's parts (see my attachment a previous post).

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You can buy stencil plastic very reasonably (there are at least 3 pieces in the package) that can be cut with scissors or and exacto knife. I do it all time. I am an envelope fanatic! I even LOVE to line them, so I have made my own liner templates.
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I'd LOVE to line mine, but inevitably, I rarely make the same size envie (or course, I'm not referring to the #10's . Also, I used double-sided tape to seal my envie sides and top, so the liner wouldn't be as appreciated due to slitting at the top

I applaud your creativity in doing so!
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cardmaker01, my DH used a reciprocating saw to cut the template, it's about a 1/4 inch thick so it doesn't move when I'm using it. He is already thinking of improvements for another one lol I'm very lucky!
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You might keep in mind the design of the envelope. I LOVE the idea of free, but the standard envies (#10 and #6) have wings for the flaps. This, to me, is wasteful (when cutting out the paper). Wings are fine for sanitary napkin protection , but not for envies

This is one thing I do like about The Envelope Mill templates: they have shorter straight flaps (and while both designs probably use the same amount of paper), I get more usable (re: larger) scraps AND can even make a #10 from an 8.5" x 11" paper (see attached; the scribbles are the waste).

There is a caveat: the template is 1/2" longer at the bottom, so when scored and folded, the top flap will only cover 1/8 of an inch of the rest of the evvie (at the back), so no glue can be used to seal it, only tape or well-placed stickers

As to the tape, I don't think the regular transparent tape would be strong enough to hold up, especially in damp areas. I'd use the chrystal clear shipping tape, even if it envolves cutting strips (down the midpoint of the tape). The con to this is seeing the shiny tape...

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I love that it's free too, especially since I'm just starting out making my own envies. I use the scraps to cover the backs of blank cards and use as postcards, also die cut other scraps to use as stickers on envies. I'm loathe to waste paper too! LOL

I've been using a glue stick on the envies, so far so good but will look for some double sided tape or use a sliver of packing tape. I'm having a lot of fun making envies, who needs cards? LOL

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You might keep in mind the design of the envelope. I LOVE the idea of free, but the standard envies (#10 and #6) have wings for the flaps. This, to me, is wasteful (when cutting out the paper). Wings are fine for sanitary napkin protection , but not for envies
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I love making my own envies! I've finally got it down. DH made an insert template so I can just fold the paper I cut with the template around it and it folds to the correct #10 size, big time saver!

Thanks again for all the great tips, here's one I just made and really like. (Hope it shows up)
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Wow those are great! Nice work!

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I love making my own envies! I've finally got it down. DH made an insert template so I can just fold the paper I cut with the template around it and it folds to the correct #10 size, big time saver!

Thanks again for all the great tips, here's one I just made and really like. (Hope it shows up)
Yes they did, and I can see why you like it! Very pretty! Too bad the Big Girl Panties (and bra) card couldn't be made to fit it! The flip flop card would be perfect...

Good job!
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