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what am I doing wrong,I'm using prisma pencils and gamasol.doesn't seem to be working
I ordered my gamasol over the internet,which is a odorless mineral spirits,that's what they sent me.and I bought the stunts,not that other thing that people told me too get.so I stamped the image and now when I color the dges of the image only.I am supposed to dip the stunt into the gamasol and then rub that into the colored spots and bring it to the center.But for some reason they aren't quite getting there the way I want them too.
I keep wetting the tip so it is wet but for some reason,the colors don't seem to be dragging where I want them to go.
I mean I watched the woman do this and it was so easy.but I guess I'm so used to my colored pencils and blender pens.and My watercolor crayons and blender pends that I thought this was more like the same thing.
So why isn't it working out the same way.Did anyone else have this problem when they first started using this technique.
Do you basically want to have white showing in the center or not really.
Are there any samples here on sc for me too see.i really would like to see some more ideas using this technique so I can see for myself if I am doing this right or not.
Any suggestioned would be very helpful at this point since I spend all the money on this and really like this look.
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Lisa - I've only played with this and not turned my efforts into actual finished work, but . . .
Your image will be lighter toward the center - maybe even white. If that's not the look you're going for, you can very lightly shade your whole image with the pencil and then blend it with your Gamsol and stump.
You also want to start with your pencil not needle-sharp - it won't blend as well.
I did a gallery search for you on "MCP" (magic colored pencil - it's what Debbie Gimbel, who "invented" the technique, calls it) and found some samples:
these are just colored prisma pencils.I checked out the texture of the paper sample i got with the paper I have and the sample that I got at the stamp art show is a much smoother paper.I am using some paper that I got from Micheal's So I'm thinking that it's my paper that I'm using. Am I wrong or should it work either way.It just looks much better with the smoother paper. does SU sell white cs that is smoother than a regular white cs.
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It's someone who buys stamps they didn't normally like at first,only to see it in Split Coast Stampers gallery in a different perspective.
Lisa - I had used some cheap cardstock from Wal-Mart - Wausau 110 lb cover stock or some such thing. It is definitely smoother than the kind in the value packs from Michael's.
cheryl thanks for the info I will try to do what she said to do it is a new stump and needs to be sanded down a little first then I can try it again.If that doesn't work I think I need to change the paper and go to a much smoother surface in my paper texture.
great insturctions though I will have to print that off and keep it with it incase I run into any problems later on down the road.Thanks for the info.
Crds 1 and 3 It wouldn't show me the full cards on the samples you sent me I don't know why.But the ones I could open were great samples to see.
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It's someone who buys stamps they didn't normally like at first,only to see it in Split Coast Stampers gallery in a different perspective.
cheryl what is the thickness on the cs.is it a thickness like the regualr cs or is it more like a printer paper for the printer but just a lot smoother.I think I have some of that maybe that will work.But it's just really thin not like regular cs at all.
__________________ WHAT IS A STAMPPIN ADDICT!
It's someone who buys stamps they didn't normally like at first,only to see it in Split Coast Stampers gallery in a different perspective.
I'm using a stump.sorry if I said stunt.I did n't recheck my spelling if I did put that down.
__________________ WHAT IS A STAMPPIN ADDICT!
It's someone who buys stamps they didn't normally like at first,only to see it in Split Coast Stampers gallery in a different perspective.
thanks Rachel I guess I'll be buying some smooth white SU cardstock for this kind of technique only!
__________________ WHAT IS A STAMPPIN ADDICT!
It's someone who buys stamps they didn't normally like at first,only to see it in Split Coast Stampers gallery in a different perspective.
It just looks much better with the smoother paper. does SU sell white cs that is smoother than a regular white cs.
Yup, SU's white cardstock is "Ultrasmooth." I also have some Hammermill cardstock that's very smooth. The Value Packs at Michaels are garbage. Several of my early scrapbooks were ruined because the acid free glues that I used actually bleached the color out of the paper.
Lisa - I actually have some smooth copy-type paper (it's heavier than regular copy paper, but not as heavy as cardstock) and that worked - I think it was some Hammermill 28 lb stuff that was labelled for color copies. The smoother cardstock was better, though.
As mentioned above, smooth cardstock works best for this technique, and you don't want your colored pencils to be super-sharp.
I think it works best if the stump isn't really really wet. I dip mine into the odorless mineral spirits, tap the tip of it on a piece of paper towel to get rid of excess OMS, and then use it on my artwork.
You can also search the gallery for "Magic Colored Pencil".
The stumps can be found at Michael's in the same aisle as the Prismacolor pencils.
So if I were to order whispering white paper from SU will this work for me.is this the same as ultra smooth white cs.I looked back into last years book and they have ultra smooth white but not in this years catalog .So I am wondering if itis the same thing.and have you ladies used this whispering white to do it and does it work.
1 person mentioned that her paper was from the paper stack.never heard of it .
__________________ WHAT IS A STAMPPIN ADDICT!
It's someone who buys stamps they didn't normally like at first,only to see it in Split Coast Stampers gallery in a different perspective.
Lisa - I've only played with this and not turned my efforts into actual finished work, but . . .
Your image will be lighter toward the center - maybe even white. If that's not the look you're going for, you can very lightly shade your whole image with the pencil and then blend it with your Gamsol and stump.
You also want to start with your pencil not needle-sharp - it won't blend as well.
I did a gallery search for you on "MCP" (magic colored pencil - it's what Debbie Gimbel, who "invented" the technique, calls it) and found some samples:
She gives some great tips, not just on how to do this technique, but how to figure where to put your shading etc.
Wow! Those are all my cards! I'm sooo flattered! [IMG]//www.splitcoaststampers.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif[/IMG]You might check out princessink's gallery, too. She does beautiful work with that technique.
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Too funny! I wasn't even paying attention to whose cards I was linking, I was just trying to find ones with good examples of what this should look like.
So if I were to order whispering white paper from SU will this work for me.is this the same as ultra smooth white cs.I looked back into last years book and they have ultra smooth white but not in this years catalog .So I am wondering if itis the same thing.and have you ladies used this whispering white to do it and does it work.
Yes, Whisper White = Ultrasmooth White. They changed the name in the new catalog when they revamped the color families.
Wow! What a great tutoral on that technique! If anyone is trying to load it, just be really patient. It took awhile but finally came up!
Thanks Lynn...I was trying to get the tech published and never heard from the magazine after all...so I figured I would just upload here...I wanted people to see how easy it really is... if you go to www.inkyantics.com they have a similar PDF done like this but I did it step by step with the finished product at the end so that everyone could see how it "happened"
Lisa if you have more questions feel free to shoot me a PM. I am not the best colorer in the world but I have had some practice at it.
these are just colored prismapencils.I checked out the texture of the paper sample i got with the paper I have and the sample that I got at the stamp art show is a much smoother paper.I am using some paper that I got from Micheal's So I'm thinking that it's my paper that I'm using. Am I wrong or should it work either way.It just looks much better with the smoother paper. does SU sell white cs that is smoother than a regular white cs.
There is a different when it comes to colored Pencils and Watercolor pencils (Primas)
Prismacolor Pencils, Soft, Thick, Lead offers easy blending and shading. Prismacolor H20 Pencils are for watercoloring. Strong, Blendable, Vibant colors! Achive Various effects with these Extremely Rich and intensive Watercolor Pencils
Look at your book of Prisma colored pencil and find out what kind you have.
I have the soft lead pencils not watercolor I made sure I CHECKED.I think it is th epaper I used I udes a cheap brand from mICHEALS NOT SU QUALITY PAPER.So I ordered some whispering white cs this week hope it helps me out.I will be demoing some tonight so I will know or sure.
__________________ WHAT IS A STAMPPIN ADDICT!
It's someone who buys stamps they didn't normally like at first,only to see it in Split Coast Stampers gallery in a different perspective.
I am so glad you guys have been going over the Prisma pencils technique. Really! I want to try it so bad...as a little girl I just loved to color. Do you think that will help? hahaha.
I'm thinking that you may have watercolor prismas....then it won't work. The gamsol basically dissolves the wax. That is why an embossed image turns out really icky! If you have any cheapie colored pencils...rose art, crayola...try those. The other tool that is essential for the gamsol and blending is the blending stump...don't think that a paint brush really works in pushing the color around.
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Actually it is my paper that I was using it isn't a smooth paper in has a little bit of a texture to it.A cheaper brand from micheals and the prisma pencils just aren't spreading the right way on this cheaper paper.I have some of SU ww paper and it's so much easier and spread much easier with the smoother paper.Thabks everyone for all your help.
__________________ WHAT IS A STAMPPIN ADDICT!
It's someone who buys stamps they didn't normally like at first,only to see it in Split Coast Stampers gallery in a different perspective.
Another tip on this technique that I didn't see mentioned is that when you start to work your color with your stump, you kind of rub the stump back and forth on the color to loosen it up so you can drag it to other areas of your image.
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Great tips and techniques from everyone, I have some more to add and by the way as I've mentioned many times before I am so thankful to Debbie Gimel who invented the technique and started the craze. I wish I could get in contact with her and thank her personally because ever since I saw her demonstrate the technique at a local stamp show it's been my favorite one for coloring in line images.
You can use Stampin' Up'S Pure Color pencils or Prismacolor Pencils. I prefer Prismacolor just because they have a larger variety of colors not because they're a better quality Here's a link to a picture of several Prismacolor pigment/oil based colored pencils:
It's better to use cardstock with a grain to it like SU's confetti or naturals, especially when you're starting out. Once you're more familiar with the technique try using a smoother finish like SU Whisper White.
Stumps:
These are called blending stumps, you don't want the ones that are called tortillions and look like a piece of cardboard wrapped around. These can be sharpened and cleaned with an emery board or sanding block. I prefer the ones made in Taiwan over the ones made in China because they're made from a softer paper and will move the color around for you. the ones made in China are very hard and will just squeak when you try to blend the color without the color moving much. Unfortunately they're harder to find but I can still get them at AC Moore and there's also an art supply store on line that you can get these from. They're made by Pro Art in Mt. Laurel NJ and here's a pictrure of what they look like:
Here's the link to the website that sells them if you don't have an AC Moore close by:
Debbie Gimel prefers Gamsol but I know that it's hard to find. In my opinion, any artist grade odorless mineral spirits that is made to thin oil paints should work just as well. Do not dip the stump directly into the Gamsol, if you don't have a small bottle with a daubber lid then just put a little gamsol in a small container (like an empty lid or medicine cup), put a small piece of felt to absorb the Gamsol and then touch your stump to the felt. This will keep your stump from getting too wet.
You can buy empty bottles with daubber lids from Nasco Art Supply under the Arts & Craft section, Paint, dispensers. You have to buy a minimu of 12 but they're cheap. Here's the link to that web site:
Princess Ink....I saw your gallery and that is what made me want to go out and buy the prismacolor pencils. I wish you were nearby and see how you do your cards in person. I could surely use some good blending tips from you!!
I ordered my gamasol over the internet,which is a odorless mineral spirits,that's what they sent me.and I bought the stunts,not that other thing that people told me too get.so I stamped the image and now when I color the dges of the image only.I am supposed to dip the stunt into the gamasol and then rub that into the colored spots and bring it to the center.But for some reason they aren't quite getting there the way I want them too.
I keep wetting the tip so it is wet but for some reason,the colors don't seem to be dragging where I want them to go.
I mean I watched the woman do this and it was so easy.but I guess I'm so used to my colored pencils and blender pens.and My watercolor crayons and blender pends that I thought this was more like the same thing.
So why isn't it working out the same way.Did anyone else have this problem when they first started using this technique.
Do you basically want to have white showing in the center or not really.
Are there any samples here on sc for me too see.i really would like to see some more ideas using this technique so I can see for myself if I am doing this right or not.
Any suggestioned would be very helpful at this point since I spend all the money on this and really like this look.