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Old 01-24-2005, 12:54 PM   #1  
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OK ladies, what is the deal with the SU 12 x 12 paper being just over 1/8�? short on one side? This drove me crazy when I couldn’t actually get 4 6x6 pages out of a sheet for a class I was holding. This was the same issue several colors. Has anyone else had this happen?
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Oh, yeah, that's the one reason I won't buy our 12 x 12 paper, it's not really 12 x 12. I think it might even say it in the catalog.
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have you called SU! about this? I've had my 12x12 for a while, and it always actually measures 12x12. that is odd
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I noticed that the patterned paper is actually 12x12; however, the cardstock is shy...
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When I went to a Regional SU event in Tulsa last year, they said that their 12x12 wasn't exactly 12x12. They gave us the measurements to use in order to get 4 perfect squares and even printed it in the regional booklet.

I think that making it just a bit smaller makes it easier to fit the pages into the 6x6 page covers.
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I too was not sure about this. Is the 12x12 paper at craft stores truely 12x12?? :? I am new at the 12x12 books. I used 8 1/2 x 11 for years.
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The slightly smaller size is most likely to make the pages fit into their page protectors better. When I do 6 x 6 pages, I cut them at around 5 7/8" square (I think...it's been a while!) and it works out fine. Regardless of the exact measurements, just know that cutting each square a bit smaller yields four 6 x 6 pages. I used to work in a scrapbook store and many of our patterned papers were the same way; those that weren't were the ones I often had to trim down a bit to make sure they fit. If they're too wide, your page protectors will buckle or you'll damage your page while trying to fit it in.
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I can understand the page turning thing, but I sometimes use it to cut out smaller pieces for things that need to be measured exactly and I nearly drove myself crazy because I thought that I was measuring wrong.

I’ve never measured other 12x12’s to see if they are true to their name, but would be curious if anyone has comments on that.
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Same here!!! I thought it was me or my cutter! I am in a 6X6 ABC technique swap and thought oh no I don't have a perfect 6X6. I feel better now. I just made a 5 7/8 X 5 7/8 square. I think it will be fine!!!!
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I'm a CM consultant, and the insides of our pages aren't 12X12 either. They're 12" top to bottom, but the side to side is about 1/4" off. I've found a lot of patterned papers seem to have the same issue, so it definitely isn't just SU!

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I am a SU demo I was a CM but I just loved the stamps. FUnny all my albums ad CM and I had never really done the 12 X 12 with CS into the protectors like SU. I am now CRAZY over it and have all these CM albums that I need to finish I paid a ton. SO I do my friends pic in the CM and the family in the SU BUT I have the GLORY albums for my DH MIlitary and I have a CM with the window for our stay here in DC I think they are beautiful BUT I have to glue CS to the pages and it drives me nuts NO ONE BUT ALL THE SCS GIRLS CAN MEASURE CORRECT!! LOL
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What would the world do if SU,CM and CTMH all combined :?
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The whole 12x12 thing in scrapbooking drives me nuts. A few years ago I bought stuff to start my first 12x12 book. I did several pages and spent a lot of time on them. Well, they were done with cardstock purchased at a scrapbooking store that was true 12x12. They wouldn't fit in the book I had purchased. I spent the next 3 years looking for a scrapbook that would hold true 12x12 since there was no way to trim these pages down. I finally found a book at Joanne's - it's called "The Perfect Scrapbook by Colorbok". But now I can't find the refill pages to add more. Sheesh! I just don't get who started this whole conspiracy! I mean who was sitting around one day and said "you know what would be a hoot? Let's call this 12x12, but let's actually make it a little smaller and not mention it!"?????

Sorry for the vent!
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I got this from the SU website (under the FAQ section):

"Our 12" x 12" paper is actually slightly smaller than 12" x 12" to allow for layering."

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Funny, as anal as I am, it never bothered me. I measured and compensated and figured that's just what you were supposed to do.

And, the Fiskars cutter we used to carry doesn't really cut a true 12x12 anyway, it always buckles the last 1/8 inch which drives me way more insane then having a slightly less than 6x6 page. I don't have the new cutter yet so maybe it does now.

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My family is from Wiesbaden, well I should say ancestors. That's really cool. My sister, who lives in England, is just chomping at the bit to be so close for almost 3 years and not been able to get there yet to check records.


OH, I just realized and had to edit - I'm not a Cardstock Collector anymore, woohoo!
Hey Glitter Queen! Does your sister stamp? If so tell her to bring herself over here and stamp with me! ;) Oh and tell her to take Ryan Air to Hahn airport, that would be the cheapest way. Gotta love Ryan Air!
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This is something that frustrated me when I first got into scrapbooking. I used Pioneer Albums and everytime I bought paper other than their refills, I always had to trim it down. I use CTMH paper and albums now and everything is "true" 12x12.
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