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Old 01-03-2008, 05:55 PM   #1  
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Default overkill...another Copic lover

At the risk of overkill with another post about Copics, I bought 48 from All that Scraps that match the SU! markers and I LOVE these. I have the Prismas and I feel these are so fabulously superior. In every way. I love to color and I love the feel of the Ciaos, the way the brush glides on the paper, the .....okay...I could go on and on. But now that I have these 48, I will probably pick up a few other colors. They are utterly fun, fantastic...... My DH, who is an artist, is fighting with me to use them. I've stamped a ton of images and all night I will be coloring. He will just have to wait!

If you like to color, IMO, these are (to me) the funnest (is that a word?) marker compared to SUs, (except which do very nicely on watercolor paper) and Prismas that I have tried. (can't speak for Tombows).
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Love mine too! I will have to check out that set, I didn't know it existed. Thanks for the heads up and congratulations on your new addition!!
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I have 60 on the way. I saved up all my Christmas money and went nuts! I can't wait for them to get here.

I know that I will be investing in more as soon as they get here. I probably would have already ordered more if I could remember what colors are coming...my luck I would buy dupes! LOL!
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At the risk of overkill with another post about Copics, I bought 48 from All that Scraps that match the SU! markers and I LOVE these. I have the Prismas and I feel these are so fabulously superior. In every way. I love to color and I love the feel of the Ciaos, the way the brush glides on the paper, the .....okay...I could go on and on. But now that I have these 48, I will probably pick up a few other colors. They are utterly fun, fantastic...... My DH, who is an artist, is fighting with me to use them. I've stamped a ton of images and all night I will be coloring. He will just have to wait!

If you like to color, IMO, these are (to me) the funnest (is that a word?) marker compared to SUs, (except which do very nicely on watercolor paper) and Prismas that I have tried. (can't speak for Tombows).

Was it a set or did you buy them individually? Can you let me know the numbers/colors? I'd really appreciate it
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It was a set of 48 that match quite closely to the SU! 48 marker colors.

List of corresponding SU colors:


Pale Plum - V95 Light Grape

Pretty in Pink - R32 Peach

Blush Blossom - E11 Barely Beige

Apricot Appeal - YR20 Yellowish Shade

Barely Banana - Y11 Pale Yellow

Certainly Celery - G21 Lime Green

Mellow Moss - BG93 Green Gray

Sage Shadow - YG63 Pea Green

Bashful Blue - B93 Light Crockery Blue

Almost Amethyst - B63 Light Hydrangea

Lavender Lace - BV02 Prune

Glorious Green - G17 Forrest Green

Green Galore - G14 Apple Green

Gable Green - YG06 Yellowish Green

Yo Yo Yellow - Y15 Cadmium Yellow

Only Orange - YR07 Cadmium Orange

Real Red - RY6 Strong Red

Orchid Opulence - V15 Mallow

Lovely Lilac - BV17 Deep Reddish Blue

Brilliant Blue - B29 Ultramarine

Tempting Turquoise - BG05 Holiday Blue

Brocade Blue - B45 Smoky Blue

Ballet Blue - B23 Phthalo Blue

Night of Navy - B39 Prussion Blue

Taken with Teal - BG49 Duck Blue

Handsome Hunter - G28 Ocean Green

Always Artichoke - G99 Olive

So Saffron - Y21 Buttercup Yellow

Regal Rose - R85 Rose Red

Rose Red - R59 Cardinal

Elegant Eggplant - V09 Violet

Chocolate Chip - E47 Dark Brown

Creamy Caramel - E33 Sand

More Mustard - YR23 Yellow Ochre

Pumpkin Pie - YR16 Apricot

Really Rust - E08 Brown

Cameo Coral - R22 Light Prawn

Summer Sun - Y17 Golden Yellow

Old Olive - Y95 Pale Olive

Garden Green - YG67 Moss

Not Quite Navy - B97 Night Blue

Blue Bayou - BG09 Blue Green

Soft Sky - BG10 Cool Shadow

(Wild Wasabi - YG63 Pea Green)- Pea Green also matches Sage Shadow

River Rock - YG91 Putty

Groovy Guava - R02 Flesh

(Purely Pomegranate - R59 Cardinal )-Cardinal lso matches Rose Red

Basic Gray - C-7 Cool Gray No. 7

100 Black

0 Colorless Blender

(Pea Green and Cardinal are used for 2 different colors.)
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Wow! Thanks Denise! I'll be checking these out
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I love love love mine. My daughter was playing a (CRUEL!) joke on me.... she got out my box of Copics and sat down with a coloring book!!!!! I said NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! She said, "Just kidding." She's ten, what a crackup, huh?
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Wow, this is really cool that they have a set that closely matches the SU colors!
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Can someone post a link to a card colored with these? I'd love to see how they look.

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Just so anyone who cares knows it was a few girls from SCS and AllThatScraps that came up with the SU color pack. I know Amy R had to do with it.

So you can only get the special pack at ATS, but they list the colors so you can form your own pack anywhere.

I didn't find that out until I already had like 20 of them, or I'd definately be getting that pack!
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http://www.allthatscraps.com/index.p...oducts_id=3579

here's the item, it's waitlisted apparently. :(

There is not a scribble color chart, but there is a chart.
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Are the copic markers safe to use in scrapbooks?
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Are the colors the same for all of the copic brand markers?

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Thanks for the chart Denise.
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Can someone post a link to a card colored with these? I'd love to see how they look.

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pretty please?
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Just go to the Gallery and search COPIC, you will find samples there.
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These are not safe for scrapbooking (not acid free)... according to the Copic website.

Also, Denidll- if you have the newer version of the SU markers.. then you have used Tombow. They are the same manufacturer.

I find it hard to compare the SU markers with prismas and Copics since SU is waterbased. All are fabulous.. they just have different uses. Copics and prismas are for coloring.. where the SU markers can be used for coloring as well as inking stamps.

I just bought a few of the prismas and copics so I can try them out to see what I like more or what works. I hope the prismas since they are so much cheaper!!!

Has anyone done a comparison of the prismas and copics (in detail)? I am wondering what others are thinking about them?
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These are not safe for scrapbooking (not acid free)... according to the Copic website.

Also, Denidll- if you have the newer version of the SU markers.. then you have used Tombow. They are the same manufacturer.

I find it hard to compare the SU markers with prismas and Copics since SU is waterbased. All are fabulous.. they just have different uses. Copics and prismas are for coloring.. where the SU markers can be used for coloring as well as inking stamps.

I just bought a few of the prismas and copics so I can try them out to see what I like more or what works. I hope the prismas since they are so much cheaper!!!

Has anyone done a comparison of the prismas and copics (in detail)? I am wondering what others are thinking about them?
thats a good thing to know about them not being scrapbook safe
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Thank you for posting this!!!! I am going to buy a few test markers.. and would LOVE to have them match my paper!!! thank you!!!
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It was a set of 48 that match quite closely to the SU! 48 marker colors.

List of corresponding SU colors:


Pale Plum - V95 Light Grape

Pretty in Pink - R32 Peach

Blush Blossom - E11 Barely Beige

Apricot Appeal - YR20 Yellowish Shade

Barely Banana - Y11 Pale Yellow

Certainly Celery - G21 Lime Green

Mellow Moss - BG93 Green Gray

Sage Shadow - YG63 Pea Green

Bashful Blue - B93 Light Crockery Blue

Almost Amethyst - B63 Light Hydrangea

Lavender Lace - BV02 Prune

Glorious Green - G17 Forrest Green

Green Galore - G14 Apple Green

Gable Green - YG06 Yellowish Green

Yo Yo Yellow - Y15 Cadmium Yellow

Only Orange - YR07 Cadmium Orange

Real Red - RY6 Strong Red

Orchid Opulence - V15 Mallow

Lovely Lilac - BV17 Deep Reddish Blue

Brilliant Blue - B29 Ultramarine

Tempting Turquoise - BG05 Holiday Blue

Brocade Blue - B45 Smoky Blue

Ballet Blue - B23 Phthalo Blue

Night of Navy - B39 Prussion Blue

Taken with Teal - BG49 Duck Blue

Handsome Hunter - G28 Ocean Green

Always Artichoke - G99 Olive

So Saffron - Y21 Buttercup Yellow

Regal Rose - R85 Rose Red

Rose Red - R59 Cardinal

Elegant Eggplant - V09 Violet

Chocolate Chip - E47 Dark Brown

Creamy Caramel - E33 Sand

More Mustard - YR23 Yellow Ochre

Pumpkin Pie - YR16 Apricot

Really Rust - E08 Brown

Cameo Coral - R22 Light Prawn

Summer Sun - Y17 Golden Yellow

Old Olive - Y95 Pale Olive

Garden Green - YG67 Moss

Not Quite Navy - B97 Night Blue

Blue Bayou - BG09 Blue Green

Soft Sky - BG10 Cool Shadow

(Wild Wasabi - YG63 Pea Green)- Pea Green also matches Sage Shadow

River Rock - YG91 Putty

Groovy Guava - R02 Flesh

(Purely Pomegranate - R59 Cardinal )-Cardinal lso matches Rose Red

Basic Gray - C-7 Cool Gray No. 7

100 Black

0 Colorless Blender

(Pea Green and Cardinal are used for 2 different colors.)
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I joined Gina K's copic marker club and my first shipment should be arriving soon. That chart of compatibility to SU colors will help immensely though, thanks for sharing! I am looking forward to playing with them. I know I already love my SU watercolor crayons and I like the prismas and gamsol technique, but I think the markers will help me with some images to achieve a sharper, bolder color. Were they difficult to get the hang of with blending and everything? Just curious.
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Were they difficult to get the hang of with blending and everything? Just curious.
I'd like to know this too.

Is the main advantage of these markers that you can get more intense colors with them than with other blendable media (pencils, watercolor crayons, etc.)?
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Thanks so much for posting those, I've been looking everywhere!

Just so I'm clear, the only difference with the Ciao is that they're smaller, is that correct?

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Thanks so much for posting those, I've been looking everywhere!

Just so I'm clear, the only difference with the Ciao is that they're smaller, is that correct?

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Of course, if airbrushing is not important to you, that's a moot point! ;)

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These are not safe for scrapbooking (not acid free)... according to the Copic website.

Also, Denidll- if you have the newer version of the SU markers.. then you have used Tombow. They are the same manufacturer.

I find it hard to compare the SU markers with prismas and Copics since SU is waterbased. All are fabulous.. they just have different uses. Copics and prismas are for coloring.. where the SU markers can be used for coloring as well as inking stamps.

I just bought a few of the prismas and copics so I can try them out to see what I like more or what works. I hope the prismas since they are so much cheaper!!!

Has anyone done a comparison of the prismas and copics (in detail)? I am wondering what others are thinking about them?
Well, I guess that depends on what you mean by "in detail". ;)

But, if it helps at all:

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These are not safe for scrapbooking (not acid free)... according to the Copic website.

Also, Denidll- if you have the newer version of the SU markers.. then you have used Tombow. They are the same manufacturer.

I find it hard to compare the SU markers with prismas and Copics since SU is waterbased. All are fabulous.. they just have different uses. Copics and prismas are for coloring.. where the SU markers can be used for coloring as well as inking stamps.

I just bought a few of the prismas and copics so I can try them out to see what I like more or what works. I hope the prismas since they are so much cheaper!!!

Has anyone done a comparison of the prismas and copics (in detail)? I am wondering what others are thinking about them?
good question I don't think I have seen answered before
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Julie I can't honestly remember what blog it was but the other day I watched a video on one that used a Ciao in the airbrush system by simply placing some dimentionals on the top of the can to hold it in place. The gal was coloring a plastic flower. Sorry I can't remember more than that perhaps someone else knows what blog it was.
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Ah ha I looked for it and here it is. http://sherrie-cardcreme.blogspot.co.../tutorial
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I have done a basic comparison of Copics and SU pens(still apples and oranges comparison but hey, I work with what I got!) see it here on my blog. And I have just a basic chart of my colors on a piece of white cardstock here. I makes it easier for me to quick reference colors while I'm coloring. I did not stick to just the SU colors since I use a lot of other stuff/patterned paper like Basic Grey that aren't SU colors.
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:41 AM   #32  
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I'd like to know this too.

Is the main advantage of these markers that you can get more intense colors with them than with other blendable media (pencils, watercolor crayons, etc.)?
I was scared I wouldn't be able to get the hang of the blending, but it isn't as hard as I thought. There are some great tutorials to help. Also, I have really found that I like to use the colorless blending pen. It even helps "erase" little errors I've made
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:09 PM   #33  
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Well, I guess that depends on what you mean by "in detail". ;)

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Thanks for the link to that thread, Julie!!

I didn't realize the copics were refillable and had changeable nibs. That makes the investment difference of $5 (copic) to $3 (prismas) for each marker quite different. I'll pay $5 for something that I can refill rather than $3 that has a limited life span.

The nibs are important for me too... I would be investing in the small nibs so I can color in small spaces (I use the small end of the SU markers almost as much as the brush tip).

thanks for the info ladies!
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:18 PM   #34  
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I join GinaK's copic marker club and have fallen even more in love with them... I had several sketch and the ones i got from her are the ciao... I want them all now.
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Old 01-15-2008, 02:24 PM   #35  
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Eclectic paper has the ciaos on sale for 2.99, i just bought 10
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Ah ha I looked for it and here it is. http://sherrie-cardcreme.blogspot.co.../tutorial.html
OHhhhhHH!! Thank you!

I still haven't opened the airbrush thingy yet to play with it! That is so cool Sherrie figured that out for those who use Ciaos! She's a clever girl, that one! ;)
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Are the copic markers safe to use in scrapbooks?
Actually, the answer to this is YES! I was told in a training class by an employee of Copic that, although the markers are alcohol based, the alcohol evaporates, making them acid-free and archival safe once the ink dries. Just don't color or draw directly on a photo you want to keep safe. On paper, it's totally fine, though.
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I didn't notice Ruby Red in the list. Is it missing or am I missing it?
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Actually, the answer to this is YES! I was told in a training class by an employee of Copic that, although the markers are alcohol based, the alcohol evaporates, making them acid-free and archival safe once the ink dries. Just don't color or draw directly on a photo you want to keep safe. On paper, it's totally fine, though.
Interesting! Too bad they didn't include that extra information on the website, tho . . . All it says is that they are not acid-free, which would probably deter many scrapbookers from purchasing them because all the information isn't there to clarify . . . :confused:
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Interesting! Too bad they didn't include that extra information on the website, tho . . . All it says is that they are not acid-free, which would probably deter many scrapbookers from purchasing them because all the information isn't there to clarify . . . :confused:
I'll get in touch with the gal that trained us and mention this little tidbit. She did mention that they say they aren't acid free, technically, because of the alcohol. But, since that evaporates, the acidity disappears. Maybe they SHOULD/WOULD/COULD mention that. It would make them A LOT of $$!!!
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