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Old 07-16-2008, 10:36 AM   #1  
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For coloring in stamped images, which style Copic marker do you find works best? And, secondly, which holds more ink? If you have changed the nibs of already filled markers, are the new nibs leaky?
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:40 AM   #2  
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i have the copic sketch markers. i just pulled them out again last night, after having them sit in a drawer since before christmas.
i like the wide nib end that the sketch style has..
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:42 AM   #3  
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The sketch markers color in images beautifully. I am not sure, but I think the original marker holds the most ink. I haven't put in a new nib yet so can't answer the third question. If you do a search in this forum for copics you can find tons of information. Have fun!
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:44 AM   #4  
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I have no experience with copics as such but i done a lot of research into them before placing my order for copic sketch markers as i feel they will suit me best and have more ink in to start with than the Ciao markers (which was my second choice). Still waiting for my pens to arrive bt i found the best deal from japanesemarkers.
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Old 07-16-2008, 11:21 AM   #5  
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Check

http://www.copicmarker.com/faq.html#...up%20questions

for explanations of the difference, as well as other FAQ
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I love the sketch. I have not refilled them but have replaced a nib with no problems. I love the super brush nib it is perfect for coloring even small places!
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mine are mainly ciao, I have one sketch.
The sketch are available in more colors, the ciaos are only 144 and not airbrush compatible, the sketch are airbrush compatible.
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mine are mainly ciao, I have one sketch.
The sketch are available in more colors, the ciaos are only 144 and not airbrush compatible, the sketch are airbrush compatible.
I know I saw a blog somewhere where someone managed to make their ciaos fit in their airbrush with a few dimensional pads. I just wish I could remember.

As for the FAQ does that mean the Ciaos you have to re-order a whole marker rather than replace a nib - YIKES! I'm still looking but I was hedging toward these but I consider them an investment.
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Sketch. All colors are available in this style and (as I learned yesterday in the Copic Certification Class taught by the awesome Marianne) any new colors will be offered in the Sketch markers. That is IF and when Japan decides to do more colors. Plus replaceable nibs.
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Further to my post I looked on the Copic site mentioned above. They have a confusing message. In FAQ it says the nibs aren't replaceable for Caios etc then in the Ciao section it shows three nibs for a Caio.. I have emailed them for clarification. I have also asked about refillability which it says they can - to me if the markers are refillable then the nibs are replaceable but maybe I'm not getting it. Also are the nibs interchangeable - say if you bought Caio and couldn't get Caio nibs could you use Sketch?
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Right just got an email back from Copic

They Ciao are refillable and the nibs CAN be changed.

I didn't ask about the interchangeability. Doh!
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Thank you all. There are so many choices it got confusing for me. I went to a local art supply and they had originals and sketch, but if the color was available in one style it wasn't in the other. Would it make a difference to have both styles? Would it be sensible if getting the original to buy the sketch brush nib and if getting the sketch to buy the fine original nib so both have the same nibs?
Basically I want to color A Muse and other stamped images.
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I bought two sets of Sketch from Carpe Diem, then joined Gina K's Copic club because of the ease of obtaining more markers without breaking the bank. The markers from Gina's club are Ciao, and I don't find much difference between them except that the Ciao tend to roll off my desk!
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I like the original because they hold the most ink, are square so don't roll, and i can get about any nib I want for them.

the only thing is they dont sell all the copic colors in original, but they do sell empty markers to buy the ink you want.....
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Right just got an email back from Copic

They Ciao are refillable and the nibs CAN be changed.

I didn't ask about the interchangeability. Doh!
There is a page that shows all the nibs that can be put into each marker. Scroll down.....The super brush end on the ciao and sketch are the same. And there are a half dozen or so more available for the original. The original holds more ink. That super brush tip does not! fit into the original.

The original copic tip feels more like a fine felt tip marker to me...but you can get into tiny corners and not go over a line with any lose wrist movement. The super brush has all kinds of techniques available that mimic a brush and you need more control to use it. They work differently are both fun. It is a preference...

I have some of both styles and like them both! It depends on what I'm coloring in.....I've done a ton of reading but only have mine for a couple months.

http://www.copicmarker.com/nibs_copic.html
http://www.copicmarker.com/nibs_sketch.html
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Thank you all. There are so many choices it got confusing for me. I went to a local art supply and they had originals and sketch, but if the color was available in one style it wasn't in the other. Would it make a difference to have both styles? Would it be sensible if getting the original to buy the sketch brush nib and if getting the sketch to buy the fine original nib so both have the same nibs?
Basically I want to color A Muse and other stamped images.
The Amuse company recommend the original style...but go with whatever works with your skills and desire. You can not put the super brush in the original square style...although there is a brush for that marker if you end up not liking the tiny tip.....
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I know I saw a blog somewhere where someone managed to make their ciaos fit in their airbrush with a few dimensional pads. I just wish I could remember.

As for the FAQ does that mean the Ciaos you have to re-order a whole marker rather than replace a nib - YIKES! I'm still looking but I was hedging toward these but I consider them an investment.
Christine at www.allthatscraps.com was the one that figured out how to make the Ciaos work in the airbrush system. Her post is located HERE. Copic Markers are AMAZING!

E.T.A.: When I went to the Seattle Copic Certification class, the Copic representative (who will remain nameless as I don't want to incriminate her) said that the "official" position of Copic is that the Ciaos DO NOT work with the airbrush system. But, unofficially, "she" will tell you that the Ciaos DO work with the airbrush system. Christine has proven it! "She" also mentioned that many of the statements on the Copic website are the "official positions" of Copic from Japan, but not necessarily the reality. KWIM?
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