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parrothead 11-17-2006 07:00 AM

Cuttlebug vs. Big Shot? *merged*
 
I want to jump on the bandwagon,but don't know which one to buy!!I would probably use it more for the embossing than I would the die cuts.Does anyone have any suggestions?I don't want to buy the wrong one and be disappointed. Thanks.

Faereygirl 11-17-2006 07:03 AM

I am afraid to say that I want to jump too. I love the embossing so much!

I'm thinking the Cuttlebug because it seems to be a little more compact.

CKMom 11-17-2006 07:38 AM

Last weekend Iwas in the same boat, which one to choose. I could not find the Big Shot in any local store only the dies, and I kinda like to see what I am buying, so off to Michaels I went 50% coupon in hand , and came home with the Cuttlebug. I plan to go tonight and "just look" yeah right,lol at the folders and dies. I see a lot of potential in this little bugger...

hedgiemama 11-17-2006 07:46 AM

Our Archivers has the Big Shot for 50% off right now.

JulieHRR 11-17-2006 08:02 AM

I truly don't believe you can go wrong with either machine. I have the Big Shot and it performs like a champ!

The only benefit, IMHO, of going Cuttlebug over Big Shot is this:

The revolutionary platform folds up, making the storage footprint extremely compact.

So, if storage/counter top space is a concern, I'd go CB.

If it's not, and you can get the BS for a sweet deal, go BS.

I don't know it for fact, but, I'm GUESSING (purely speculation) that the BS is gonna be replaced by the coming Sizzix Big Kick, which is red and white. I suspect the BK will be unveiled at CHA Winter 07 (end of January/early Feb?) in San Diego . . .

frankie 11-17-2006 08:38 AM

I'm thinking that with the split between Sizzix and Elison that we'll end up having both the Big Shot and the Big Kick to choose from -- they're competing now aren't they? I seem to remember that they developed the original Sizzix together but had a parting of the ways a while back. Now I could be totally wrong . . . the mind IS getting old ya know!

JulieHRR 11-17-2006 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by frankie
I'm thinking that with the split between Sizzix and Elison that we'll end up having both the Big Shot and the Big Kick to choose from -- they're competing now aren't they? I seem to remember that they developed the original Sizzix together but had a parting of the ways a while back. Now I could be totally wrong . . . the mind IS getting old ya know!

Last I heard, I got the impression that Ellison was taking Sizzix completely under their wing and that Provo Craft would be then be promoting their line of Cricuts and Cuttlebugs . . .

?

parrothead 11-17-2006 08:51 AM

Will I be able to use other diecuts from another company if I buy the cuttlebug???

JulieHRR 11-17-2006 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by parrothead
Will I be able to use other diecuts from another company if I buy the cuttlebug???

Both the Big Shot and the Cuttlebug are cross compatible in using other brand dies, although you may need "adapters" for some of the wafer dies out there.

And, according to reports, a thick mousepad works for using other brand brass templates for embossing purposes??? I haven't tried that myself cuz I sold all my brass templates years ago when I gave up dry/pressure embossing (tendinitis) . . .

The Sizzix should also handle Cuttlebug dies, and can probably many of the Big Shot dies, UNLESS they are too wide to fit through the Sizzix feed; the BS and CB feeds are both 6" wide; I dunno how wide the Sizzix is . . . BS Thick Cut dies and Sizzix Originals dies appear to be the same thickness, and both take the wafer style dies (Sizzlits and QuicKutz, etc.)

Granny Hawkins 11-17-2006 09:21 AM

I feel like my poor little Sizzix is an extinct dinosaur.:( :(

Guess I will try and see if it will work with dies from the other companies.

The opening is only 5 inches.

anniesmom 11-17-2006 10:24 AM

Granny,
I know what your mean about the Original Sizzix being a dinosaur. So long as I can rig up some way to use other dies I refuse to buy a new one. Now if Santa brings me one well I guess I'd smile sweetly and leave him some extra cookies next year.

I just bought a CB embossing folder and can not wait to play.

frankie 11-17-2006 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JulieHRR
Last I heard, I got the impression that Ellison was taking Sizzix completely under their wing and that Provo Craft would be then be promoting their line of Cricuts and Cuttlebugs . . .

?

Julie you're right -- Ellison has the entire rights to Sizzix now. So I do wonder what's the deal with the Big Shot AND the Big Kick? Why the need to have 2 independent lines of basically the same product?

frankie 11-17-2006 10:31 AM

So I just came from Joanns and saw the Cuttlebug but I resisted. I MUST use the "stuff" I've already collected and y'all are killin' me!!

Ouch!PaperCut 11-17-2006 10:50 AM

Hey Julie, can you cut windows in a card with the CB? Also, have you found that you don't get the embossing "ridge" with the CB like you did with the BS?

mnhyrkas 11-17-2006 10:55 AM

I think until the manufacturers figure out that the die or embossing template has to be the size of a card front in order to avoid the ridges we're stuck with the ugly edge for awhile? at least with these roller/sandwich type die machines. the machine cannot distinguish from the edge of the template and the image itself. it just rolls and even press. am I making sense?

parrothead 11-17-2006 11:07 AM

Just got back from Michael's!!!! They hadn't even put the Cuttlebugs out yet so they went in the back & got me one!!Also bought 4 embossing folders!!!Used my 40% off coupon and the total was only 69.92!!!!Wonder what I'll be doing later!!!The cashier WAS surprised that my coupon worked!!!Wonder if that will change soon??!!

JulieHRR 11-17-2006 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mnhyrkas
I think until the manufacturers figure out that the die or embossing template has to be the size of a card front in order to avoid the ridges we're stuck with the ugly edge for awhile? at least with these roller/sandwich type die machines. the machine cannot distinguish from the edge of the template and the image itself. it just rolls and even press. am I making sense?

Yes! I think you may have nailed it!!!

Mebbe we all need to write them and say:

"HEY!!!!! We end users have figured something very, very important out!!! Please listen!!! Cuz, if you FIX it, we will BUY it!!!!! Oh, lordy, will we ever buy it . . . " http://www.millan.net/minimations/sm...appytongue.gif

JulieHRR 11-17-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ouch!PaperCut
Hey Julie, can you cut windows in a card with the CB? Also, have you found that you don't get the embossing "ridge" with the CB like you did with the BS?

My CB is scheduled to fly in today, but no sign yet . . . but, so's my Mom. I gotta get the palace shiny for the Queen Mother! ;) snort!

staramaze 11-17-2006 11:24 AM

oh gosh... julie; ar eyou saying I need BOTH of these items!!!

Where can santa buy ne a cuttlebug by christmas time?

JulieHRR 11-17-2006 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by staramaze
oh gosh... julie; ar eyou saying I need BOTH of these items!!!

Where can santa buy ne a cuttlebug by christmas time?

No! Tell Santa the CB is the way to go, especially if storage/counter space is an issue! ;)

parrothead 11-17-2006 11:47 AM

WOW! Just tried it out and I'm in love!!So easy to use and effortless!!!And boy..you're right .....it takes up no space at all!!! I'm so glad I bought one.

Ouch!PaperCut 11-17-2006 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnhyrkas
I think until the manufacturers figure out that the die or embossing template has to be the size of a card front in order to avoid the ridges we're stuck with the ugly edge for awhile? at least with these roller/sandwich type die machines. the machine cannot distinguish from the edge of the template and the image itself. it just rolls and even press. am I making sense?

Oh my yes, absolutely makes sense. you smart woman!

Kathyc 11-17-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JulieHRR
Yes! I think you may have nailed it!!!

Mebbe we all need to write them and say:

"HEY!!!!! We end users have figured something very, very important out!!! Please listen!!! Cuz, if you FIX it, we will BUY it!!!!! Oh, lordy, will we ever buy it . . . " http://www.millan.net/minimations/sm...appytongue.gif

Yeah Julie, be sure to include this happy face when you send that memo! They'll do whatever you want!!!!!!

staramaze 11-17-2006 12:04 PM

so where is the best deal going now for a CB???

parrothead 11-17-2006 12:33 PM

Bought mine today at Michaels with 4 embossing folders with my 40% off coupon for 69.92. However as i said earlier the cashier was surprised that my coupon worked and stated what a good deal that ws...so maybe they are going to fix it so you can't use the coupon. They hadn't even put these on the shelf yet,she went to the back and got one for me.

Francie G. 11-17-2006 12:54 PM

Got my CB yesterday. It is awesome. It will cut foam and cardboard. This is my first diecut machine so don't know how it compares with others, this one is a blast. Francie G.

twoboysandagirl 11-17-2006 01:02 PM

I am soooooo disappointed. My Michaels has EMPTY Cuttlebug boxes. You have to take the empty box to the check-out, and they go to the back room and get the machine for you. Today, I had a 40% off coupon and an empty box, and they said they didn't have any Cuttlebugs left. Ok....where did the empty box come from then? UGH! I'm worried that the next time I get a coupon, it will exclude the Cuttlebug. Oh what frustration!

parrothead 11-17-2006 01:05 PM

REALLY!!Where did the empty box come from?????Could you get a rain check maybe that would still let you use your coupon??

Rubber Stamp Nut 11-17-2006 01:07 PM

So is the Cuttlebug strictly for embossing?? That is what I am mostly interested in. Does it also do dies? I love the look of dry embossing but I'm lousy at it when using brass templates, light boxes, etc. I would love to be able to do it simply. It sounds like the Cuttlebug is the solution...?

janelill 11-17-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JulieHRR
And, according to reports, a thick mousepad works for using other brand brass templates for embossing purposes??? I haven't tried that myself cuz I sold all my brass templates years ago when I gave up dry/pressure embossing (tendinitis) . . .

And if you have some fun foam that will work well for embossing as well.

A big shot question: Those of you who have tried it with wafer thin dies, have you had any problems with it?
I have a Sizzix machine that i love, but i like the big shot dies, because of their size. Also sometimes i need to add a piece of cardstock to the sizzix adapter(the black magnet one) in order for it to cut sizzlits dies properly, and i was wondering if maybe the big shot would be better at this....

parrothead 11-17-2006 01:42 PM

So is the Cuttlebug strictly for embossing?? That is what I am mostly interested in. Does it also do dies? I love the look of dry embossing but I'm lousy at it when using brass templates, light boxes, etc. I would love to be able to do it simply. It sounds like the Cuttlebug is the solution



It does both. I bought mine for the embossing as well. I'm very pleased with the results I got today when I tried it out. Can't wait to have the time to sit down and actually have time to make something.I'm as giddy as a school girl!!!(Hey...don't take much to make me happy!!!).

Rubber Stamp Nut 11-17-2006 01:47 PM

I think I want one! I just did a little snooping around and found a cool site that shows the dies (which I didn't know they had) and embossing folders. The site is KTCrafts.com. I also checked the gallery and saw some really cute samples from MyTime (and others) using the embossing folders.

parrothead 11-17-2006 01:53 PM

I thought it was a really good deal for what it does. Also it takes up NO room at all. If you have a place 6 in. wide by 7 in. high you can store it.

pyinfrisco 11-20-2006 05:16 PM

Big Shot Or Cuttlebug
 
I am considering purchasing a die cut/embossing machine for my card making. I am trying to figure out what to look for and what questions to ask and if it's worth the investment. My LSS demonstrated the new Cuttlebug today. Loved the embossing feature - the image was very raised and sharp. I didn't see very many die images I would want though. I haven't seen the Ellison Big Shot yet but from their website it looks like the two machines are very similar and there was a bigger selection of dies. Can the dies and accessories be used in each other's machines?

Which would you choose and why or would you suggest something else? I love to dry emboss with my lightbox and brass stencils but not always happy with the result and it's too difficult to emboss dark cardstock. Is it easy to make window cards with either of these machines? My punches don't always reach to the middle of the card. Thanks for your opinions.

JulieHRR 11-20-2006 05:40 PM

This is a brief synopsis and comparison of the Cricut, Cuttlebug, and Big shot.

http:////www.splitcoaststampers.com/...&postcount=496

I bought the Big Shot 2 months ago; then when the Cuttlebug was finally released, I got it, just cuz it was so darn cute, and the fold up platform intrigued me for saving space on my countertop/cutting station.

Both the BS and the CB are fabulous machines; yes, the BS has a much wider range of die options. HOWEVER, ;) the dies between the Sizzix, the CB and the BS are all cross compatible, except some of the larger/largest BS dies may not fit in the feed of the Sizzix. CB and BS both have a feed width of 6"; Sizzix is a little smaller. Sizzix operates on a lever pressure system, as opposed to a rolling pressure system.

IMHO, after comparison testing the 2 machines side by side, it doesn't matter whether you get the BS or the CB, unless storage/compactness is an issue.

To see the Big Shot, visit www.ellisondesign.com

To see the Cuttlebug and Cricut, visit www.provocraft.com

JulieHRR 11-20-2006 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pyinfrisco
. . . Is it easy to make window cards with either of these machines? My punches don't always reach to the middle of the card. Thanks for your opinions.

It isn't the machine that's the issue with regards to ease of making window cards--it's the dies and their ability to be positioned properly, and whether or not perimeter edges of the die are undesirably embossed onto the card front.

Reports indicate that the CB dies are the best suited for making window cards, however, the manufacturer didn't design them or intend them for that purpose.

I typically use my Coluzzle nested templates for making window cards, which actually works beautifully, but, I am hoping to figure out an even faster/easier way with the CB dies, but it will take experimentation, and I first have to get my hands on some CB dies.

pyinfrisco 11-20-2006 06:14 PM

Julie, Thanks so much for your comments. I'm really new to this so I appreciate the opinion of someone with experience. I'm glad to know the dies are compatible; that just broadens the selection. After I get one, I too will experiment with making window cards. Good luck on your experimentation.

Have you used brass stencils in either machine? Will I need to purchase or use something extra that doesn't come with the machine(s)?

JulieHRR 11-20-2006 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pyinfrisco
Julie, Thanks so much for your comments. I'm really new to this so I appreciate the opinion of someone with experience. I'm glad to know the dies are compatible; that just broadens the selection. After I get one, I too will experiment with making window cards. Good luck on your experimentation.

Have you used brass stencils in either machine? Will I need to purchase or use something extra that doesn't come with the machine(s)?

Alas, I have no brass . . . sold 'em all off cuz tendinitis in my arm made it too painful to dry emboss . . . :(

At this point, I doubt I'll actually buy any, because the BS, Sizzix and CB systems all now offer such great embossing products already designed for use with their machines, that I'll probably just buy those . . . :grin:

JulieHRR 11-20-2006 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JulieHRR
Reports indicate that the CB dies are the best suited for making window cards, however, the manufacturer didn't design them or intend them for that purpose.

I wanted to clarify the above statement:

I bought Sizzlit Window dies and couldn't get them to cut without embossing the perimeter of the die itself into the card front. I didn't like this, so I consider those particular dies useless for making window cards.

Many folks that have tried to make window cards with the CB dies, and are reporting success (no residual die perimeter ending up embossed on the card front), BUT, nobody has yet figured out how to position the die exactly where they want it on the card front perfectly straight/with perfect accuracy, etc. . . . hence, the experimentation going on . . .

http://www.millan.net/minimations/sm...ruminating.gif


;)

mooshie_stamps 11-20-2006 07:42 PM

I have never used a Big Shot machine, but seeing as how they seem to be such equals I'd reccomend the Cuttlebug simply for the price. I think BS retails for over $100, and CB is closer to $80. so unless you can get a BS locally with a coupon or on a great deal online I think you'd save some $$ going with the CB (unless you can't get that locally with a coupon either, then it just depends on what you can get for less $$ KWIM?). but I've heard great things about BS, so they're both great machines.

I don't think that sounded very helpful, but good luck with whatever you choose. die cutting machines are just too fun!
Michelle


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