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Old 02-16-2015, 05:24 AM   #1
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The other day I accidentally bought the dot refill for my adhesive runner, instead of the regular one. I'm not really liking it a whole lot, I seem to end up with random dots stuck in random places. I'm trying to understand what the pros and cons are of using just a regular adhesive runner vs a dot runner. Thoughts?
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I actually prefer the dot runners. I find that the solid runners don't always stop gluing when I lift the runner off the paper, and I get messy, run away strands or bands of glue where I don't want them. The solid runners are just that, solid. So they don't always break when you want them too. I've also found that with solid runners, sometimes the glue would curl in a little on the sides or contract, so that the band of glue was thinner than its original width.

When I use the dotted runners, I still get a nice solid stripe. However, when I lift my runner off the paper, the glue stops immediately. The little dots are already breaking up the solid flow of the tape, so there's no way for a solid band of tape to continue coming off the runner once you've lifted it off the paper. And the stripe never contracts. Because it's not a solid piece, there's no way for it to contract or pull into itself.

Hope I'm making sense here. I've used Scotch (red plastic) and Tombow (purple plastic), and both brands have worked very well for me. I've never had a problem where the adhesive was random. I get nice solid stripes of tape. At least one of them (can't remember which off hand) has lightly tinted blue tape, so I can easily see where I have already applied tape.

Perhaps gluing style affects which product works best? I'm guessing that I use a lot of pressure. Maybe the solid runner is better, if you have a lighter touch?
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I've only used the EK Success Herma dot adhesive, but I really like it. It is especially good for paper with "holes" in it, such as a die cut doily or eyelet edging. When you roll over a gap in the paper, the dots stick on the surface underneath and you can just roll them off with your finger. Hope this makes sense.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:44 PM   #4
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I'm using Elmer's, which I wasn't super fond of in the first place because the roller would get gunked up. I've figured out that if I angle the runner a bit differently it applies better and more evenly. I guess I'll just have to pay closer attention to when I get glue dots on my work surface. I didn't even realize it until they were on everything, and at that point they were sticking enough that it made a mess when I tried rolling them off.

Thanks for your input ladies. I really want to try Tombow because of all the rave reviews, but it's super expensive here. So I have to wait till a Michaels coupon coincides with money in the bank.
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I have found the Elmer's dot runners do not hold nearly as well as their full adhesive version. My dot runner cards fall apart. I find the other variety holds for a long time.
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There's an advantage in using a dot runner if you are attaching an intricate die cut with lots of open space ( like a flourish) - the dot runner adhesive only attaches to the die cut -- if you use a line runner - the adhesive continues so there's adhesive in the open space, where you don't want it. unless you take the time to only put it on each little piece - the dot runner you can just run across the whole thing. It will leave some glue on the scrap sheet that I put beneath the "flourish" but that just gets tossed. .... That's my experience anyway.... I hope that I explained this clearly!
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I have found the Elmer's dot runners do not hold nearly as well as their full adhesive version. My dot runner cards fall apart. I find the other variety holds for a long time.
I'm glad to know it's not just me! I thought I was the defective one, lol.
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There's an advantage in using a dot runner if you are attaching an intricate die cut with lots of open space ( like a flourish) - the dot runner adhesive only attaches to the die cut -- if you use a line runner - the adhesive continues so there's adhesive in the open space, where you don't want it. unless you take the time to only put it on each little piece - the dot runner you can just run across the whole thing. It will leave some glue on the scrap sheet that I put beneath the "flourish" but that just gets tossed. .... That's my experience anyway.... I hope that I explained this clearly!
That makes sense actually!
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There's an advantage in using a dot runner if you are attaching an intricate die cut with lots of open space ( like a flourish) - the dot runner adhesive only attaches to the die cut -- if you use a line runner - the adhesive continues so there's adhesive in the open space, where you don't want it. unless you take the time to only put it on each little piece - the dot runner you can just run across the whole thing. It will leave some glue on the scrap sheet that I put beneath the "flourish" but that just gets tossed. .... That's my experience anyway.... I hope that I explained this clearly!
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You can purchase Tombow adhesive thru Penwa. I usually by around $50 and it comes to $1.85 per refill. They are very quick to ship.
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When I buy adhesive runners, I always buy the dots. I really like them. I have had such terrible luck with the Elmers glue runners that I actually threw two new packages of them away. To much hassle to even return them to the store.

I am using double sided tape now and I have had such good luck with them.
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I'm using Elmer's, which I wasn't super fond of in the first place because the roller would get gunked up. I've figured out that if I angle the runner a bit differently it applies better and more evenly. I guess I'll just have to pay closer attention to when I get glue dots on my work surface. I didn't even realize it until they were on everything, and at that point they were sticking enough that it made a mess when I tried rolling them off.

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I always have an old phone book right next to where I work. I put my piece to be glued on a clean page, run my dot roller (Scotch) over the work, pick it up and place it down where I want it. I use a different section of the paper each time, if possible; if not, I tear off the top sheet and have a fresh piece available.
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I've never been fond of the dot runners but I like the idea that they work good for die cuts. I'll give them another try because it would be easier than attaching an adhesive sheet to the card stock before cutting.
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I have nothing to contribute on the dots...I use a double sided tape I always hand cut. But I had to say that phone book idea is very good!
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I always have an old phone book right next to where I work. I put my piece to be glued on a clean page, run my dot roller (Scotch) over the work, pick it up and place it down where I want it. I use a different section of the paper each time, if possible; if not, I tear off the top sheet and have a fresh piece available.
I use old magazines and catalogues before I recycle them. Also works well when using a glue stick and you need to go right to the edges of what you are gluing. Then I just turn the page to the next fresh one when I need it.
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Wow!! The phone book and magazines and catalogs are great ideas!! I'm going to have to use them too!! The Elmer runners are terrible. I'm constantly trying to fix them. I have 2 left and am going to use them, but then I'm done.
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I agree, I love the magazine/phone book idea. What sucks is that I just recycled a phone book that had been in my craft room for the last 3 years. Isn't that always the way?!

Thanks everybody for your great comments!
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