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eeyorefanatic 12-13-2007 08:15 AM

Yet another stupid nestabilities question regarding size
 
For the large and small circles- it says they start at x then scale down .25". Doesn't that give you a bunch of overlap between the sizes?

For the large is says it starts at 3.75 then goes down .25" so 3.5,3.25,3,2.75 etc

For the small it says it starts at 3.5 then goes down .25" so 3.5,3.25,2.75

Or does the entire circle set start at 3.75 and you get every other one depending on which set (Large or small) you buy.

Does that make any sense?

KimInIowa 12-13-2007 11:52 AM

Here is the deal...

If you cut one circle from each size of the large set and stack them on top of each other you will have 1/4" difference all the way around each circle, but in actuality the circle from side to side is a 1/2" difference (1/4 on each side of the circle)

The small set is set up the same way. Set them on top of each other and there will be 1/4" difference all around the circle.

Stack both the small and the large together and you will have 1/8" difference around all the circles. (1/4" difference if you measure across)

The were specifically made in this way to give you options.

The other nest sets work in the same way.

I hope this makes sense!

Kim

stampinselena 12-13-2007 01:59 PM

So if you want more scallop to show around the edge get the regular small and the scallop large? And if you don't get them both the same size? Just clarifying because I was wondering about this too.

hooked-2 12-13-2007 02:20 PM

I have all the nestabilities. Give me a few and I will die cut each size and stack them then I will scan them and post a picture. That might help you see.

Kar

stampinselena 12-13-2007 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooked-2 (Post 8008499)
I have all the nestabilities. Give me a few and I will die cut each size and stack them then I will scan them and post a picture. That might help you see.

Kar

Awesome! I'll be checking back in to see. Plus I'm very jealous that you have all of them.;)

ckidd 12-13-2007 02:56 PM

This post on Nichole's blog really helped me when thinking about the sizes:
http://nicholeheady.typepad.com/capt...faq/index.html
Or maybe it didn't help, since I just went ahead and got them all, LOL!

Hope that helps!
Connie

hooked-2 12-13-2007 08:17 PM

Sorry guys. Grocery shopping took my play time for the night. I just wanted to let you know that I will get my dies cut and scanned in the morning.

hooked-2 12-14-2007 05:23 AM

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Ok here we go. I was busy cutting out circles this morning while the kids ate breakfast.

I cut 2 qty of each die and alternated 2 colors in each set. I layered the Large Circle set and then the Small Circle set to show you that they create 1/4" borders.

then

I layered 1 die cut from both sets (large and small) to show you that they are different sizes and when combining the 2 sets, you get a 1/8" border.

The smallest die cut, I did in a light green and white and wrote the # and name of the die on it so you could know the difference.

I hope this helps.

stampinselena 12-14-2007 05:43 AM

Thank you, Kar!

paynete 12-27-2007 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooked-2 (Post 8014349)
Ok here we go. I was busy cutting out circles this morning while the kids ate breakfast.

I cut 2 qty of each die and alternated 2 colors in each set. I layered the Large Circle set and then the Small Circle set to show you that they create 1/4" borders.

then

I layered 1 die cut from both sets (large and small) to show you that they are different sizes and when combining the 2 sets, you get a 1/8" border.

The smallest die cut, I did in a light green and white and wrote the # and name of the die on it so you could know the difference.

I hope this helps.


Thanks so much for this. I was so confused about this until I saw your pics.

Teresa

tlw411 12-27-2007 08:54 AM

Thanks Kar! It is so much clearer now how they work together !! :)

SammyStamper 12-27-2007 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckidd (Post 8008965)
This post on Nichole's blog really helped me when thinking about the sizes:
http://nicholeheady.typepad.com/capt...faq/index.html
Or maybe it didn't help, since I just went ahead and got them all, LOL!

Hope that helps!
Connie


Great minds think alike! I did the same thing as well as my darling husband who finished off the set for me for Christmas.

Suzanne 12-27-2007 10:17 AM

I'm trying to decide what sizes to buy and this is what I've figured out.

It depends on whether you are talking regular shapes or scallop shapes. I went to Spellbinders site and found what the starting sizes were and figured out the size of each scalloped shape and for example the squares to have overlapping sizes.

Large Scalloped Squares start at 4x4 and scale down at 1/4 inch = 4x4-3.75x3.75-3.5x3.5-3.25x3.25-3x3
Small Scalloped Squares start at 3.75x3.75 and scale at 1/4 inch = 3.75x3.75-3.5x3.5-3.25x3.25-3x3-2.75x2.75

Large Squares start at 3.6 and scale down at 1/4 inch and the Small Squares start at 3.3 and scale down at 1/4 inch.

Large = 3.60-3.35-3.10-2.85-2.60-2.35-2.10
Small = 3.30-3.05-2.80-2.55-2.30-2.05-1.80

chattiekathie 12-27-2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne (Post 8120383)
I'm trying to decide what sizes to buy and this is what I've figured out.

It depends on whether you are talking regular shapes or scallop shapes. I went to Spellbinders site and found what the starting sizes were and figured out the size of each scalloped shape and for example the squares to have overlapping sizes.

Large Scalloped Squares start at 4x4 and scale down at 1/4 inch = 4x4-3.75x3.75-3.5x3.5-3.25x3.25-3x3
Small Scalloped Squares start at 3.75x3.75 and scale at 1/4 inch = 3.75x3.75-3.5x3.5-3.25x3.25-3x3-2.75x2.75

Large Squares start at 3.6 and scale down at 1/4 inch and the Small Squares start at 3.3 and scale down at 1/4 inch.

Large = 3.60-3.35-3.10-2.85-2.60-2.35-2.10
Small = 3.30-3.05-2.80-2.55-2.30-2.05-1.80

Just to clarify - there are not repetitive sizes within the shapes - I have the complete sets and they graduate. Some scalloped and plain of the same shape appear to have a repeat in sizes, but that is comparing apples and oranges. HTH!

hedgiemama 12-27-2007 12:16 PM

This is probably going to sound totally stupid. But what are nestabilities as compared to Quickutz Nesties, or whatever the are called?

Suzanne 12-27-2007 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chattiekathie (Post 8121316)
Just to clarify - there are not repetitive sizes within the shapes - I have the complete sets and they graduate. Some scalloped and plain of the same shape appear to have a repeat in sizes, but that is comparing apples and oranges. HTH!

I'm not comparing the scalloped to non scalloped I'm looking at the 2 scalloped square sets and according to spellbinders website they are with the exception of the large having a 4x4 and the small having a 2.5x2.5 they would be the same.

Someone needs to explain to me how they are different because I see no reason to buy the Classic Large Scallop Square and Classic Small Scallop Square sets or both of the Classic Circle Scallop sets because according to the measurements Spellbinders gives on their site both of these shapes would have overlapping sizes.

Erin K 12-27-2007 01:13 PM

You do not have to have both. :) You can pick either, but if you get both you do get an 1/8 difference vs. 1/4 on your layer. There must be some typo in the description that the OP copied (I mean the company made one, not the OP) because there is no over lap of sizes.

If you buy them all you will have all totally different sized ones. If you get one set you will have lovely fun and they will be super nice, but you can only make mats with increments of 1/4 inch. Sometimes you might want a skinny 1/8 inch mat and if so you'd want both sizes.

I just promise. I know it reads like there is an overlap, I just promise there is not. Post #8 shows it really well.

speanburg4 12-27-2007 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne (Post 8120383)
I'm trying to decide what sizes to buy and this is what I've figured out.

It depends on whether you are talking regular shapes or scallop shapes. I went to Spellbinders site and found what the starting sizes were and figured out the size of each scalloped shape and for example the squares to have overlapping sizes.

Large Scalloped Squares start at 4x4 and scale down at 1/4 inch = 4x4-3.75x3.75-3.5x3.5-3.25x3.25-3x3
Small Scalloped Squares start at 3.75x3.75 and scale at 1/4 inch = 3.75x3.75-3.5x3.5-3.25x3.25-3x3-2.75x2.75

Large Squares start at 3.6 and scale down at 1/4 inch and the Small Squares start at 3.3 and scale down at 1/4 inch.

Large = 3.60-3.35-3.10-2.85-2.60-2.35-2.10
Small = 3.30-3.05-2.80-2.55-2.30-2.05-1.80

The problem is with the wording on the website. The dies actually go down in 1/2" increments, not 1/4". I just measured my squares. The largest scalloped square from the Large set is 4", but the next size smaller is only 3.5". The largest scalloped square in the Small set is 3.75". So they scale down 1/2", not 1/4". Does that make more sense? I think they said 1/4" because each shape cut creates a 1/4" (on all four sides) mat for the next smaller size. HTH

Erin K 12-27-2007 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speanburg4 (Post 8122312)
The problem is with the wording on the website. The dies actually go down in 1/2" increments, not 1/4". I just measured my squares. The largest scalloped square from the Large set is 4", but the next size smaller is only 3.5". The largest scalloped square in the Small set is 3.75". So they scale down 1/2", not 1/4". Does that make more sense? I think they said 1/4" because each shape cut creates a 1/4" (on all four sides) mat for the next smaller size. HTH

That really does make sense Jennifer! I do have the benifit of having the dies in front of me to see what you mean, but yes, that's just it! :)

Kathyc 12-27-2007 05:21 PM

Thanks Kar for that great visual! I got the full set of ovals for Christmas; now I understand why I needed them all!!!

Suzanne 12-27-2007 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speanburg4 (Post 8122312)
The problem is with the wording on the website. The dies actually go down in 1/2" increments, not 1/4". I just measured my squares. The largest scalloped square from the Large set is 4", but the next size smaller is only 3.5". The largest scalloped square in the Small set is 3.75". So they scale down 1/2", not 1/4". Does that make more sense? I think they said 1/4" because each shape cut creates a 1/4" (on all four sides) mat for the next smaller size. HTH

That makes more since than what I was reading on the website. Thank you Jennifer!


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