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Water Based Dye Ink and Dye Ink Are They One and the Same?
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I have a general question regarding Dye Based Ink. I have SU water based dye ink. Is water based dye ink the same as dye based ink? I have noticed that when I use SU dye ink on glossy cardstock it tends to fade. Is there dye based ink out there that does not fade besides Staz On ink? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Robin
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"Dye ink" is water-based. StazOn is NOT dye/water-based -- it is a solvent-based ink very similar to what's found in a Sharpie marker, which is why it is permanent and not really all that prone to fading.
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If you're wanting it not to fade on glossy, you probably need pigment ink (called Craft ink by SU!). It is pigment-based, thicker, slower-to-dry than dye (or water-based ink).
And like the above poster notes, Staz-On is NOT dye-based. It is a solvent ink - totally different than dye or pigment.
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Hello -
I have a general question regarding Dye Based Ink. I have SU water based dye ink. Is water based dye ink the same as dye based ink? I have noticed that when I use SU dye ink on glossy cardstock it tends to fade. Is there dye based ink out there that does not fade besides Staz On ink? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Robin
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I've heard of some people having problems getting pigment ink to dry on glossy cardstock (we're talking DAYS). I think Stazon will probably be your best bet.
If you're wanting it not to fade on glossy, you probably need pigment ink (called Craft ink by SU!). It is pigment-based, thicker, slower-to-dry than dye (or water-based ink).
Pigment ink doesn't dry on non-porous surfaces -- you have to heat-emboss it. I know glossy card stock isn't totally impervious like glass or plastic, but it's just resistant enough that the ink will take AGES to dry, if it dries at all.
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Memento is dye-based and works great on glossy - nice rich colour retention and it's a fade-resistant ink (which means long-term, not just at the moment you stamp it), dries very quickly.
Memento is dye-based and works great on glossy - nice rich colour retention and it's a fade-resistant ink (which means long-term, not just at the moment you stamp it), dries very quickly.
Pigment ink doesn't dry on non-porous surfaces -- you have to heat-emboss it. I know glossy card stock isn't totally impervious like glass or plastic, but it's just resistant enough that the ink will take AGES to dry, if it dries at all.
Absolutely, pigment ink (SU craft ink) does not dry on glossy paper. It will just smear. It must be heat embossed with embossing powder.
Do you want this to LAST (like in a scrapbook)? Be sure to use pigment ink, like SU!'s Craft ink. It won't dry on glossy paper, but you can clear emboss it to set it. Do NOT use solvent-based inks in scrapbooks--that smelly solvent means that the ink is harmful to paper in the long run. (I have master's degrees in both museum studies and library/information studies, and worked in an archives.)
I don't know enough about hybrid inks, but I'd rather be safe than sorry if it's something I want to last--pigment inks!!
Do NOT use solvent-based inks in scrapbooks--that smelly solvent means that the ink is harmful to paper in the long run. (I have master's degrees in both museum studies and library/information studies, and worked in an archives.)
Stazon is both acid-free and archival according to Tsukineko's technical data. Wouldn't those things indicate that it's OK for scrapbook use?
One more technique that I've used on glossy paper is to put regular rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball, then use SU!'s reinkers (regular ink) to drop onto the cotton ball. This makes a type of alcohol ink. You can then use the cotton ball to sponge on glossy paper. It makes for a cool background-especially if you use more than one color. practice on a scrap piece first because the alcohol changes the color slightly. But it's a fun technique to try! Good luck!
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Ranger Archival Jet Black dye ink is my absolute favorite to use on glossy cardstock.
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