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:( I've been very disappointed with the Craft pads. Why? I've only ordered 3 so far, and am very frustrated. The first three were so heavily inked, they leaked all over the place and made a mess. My customers did NOT want to even touch them. I was able to exchange them for new ones; these arrived so dry, that I can't get the EP to stick unless I pour it over and emboss IMMEDIATELY after stamping. OK, so I can order reinkers, but I feel a customer shouldn't have to order a reinker when they order the pad--they should be able to use it when they receiving it, otherwise, they feel like their being ripped off . . . I would, too!
What am I doing wrong that makes me unable to use these pads with success? I have not promoted them among my customers because of MY personal disappointment in them. I've been wishing they'd bring back the old Colorbox inks--I loved them best and still do . . .
Any suggestions that would make me a believer in these pads would really be appreciated . . .
If you can only get one set, which probably accounts for most of us, I would prefer the Craft pads. First of all they are recommended for our scrapbooks, and they work great for greeting cards as well. Secondly, you can use them on a wide variety of surfaces, that dye-based inks are not created for. However, after saying that, I can let you know that I have all 48 dye ink pads, the old style, and about six of the craft pads in my favorite colors. I do use my Ancient Page pads in my scrapbooks as well, however. I still love them and wish we still sold the reinkers at SU!.
I'm sorry you have had such bad luck with the new Craft Pads Julie! That's a real bummer. Now that you mention it, my white Craft Pad is pretty goopy. I used it at a workshop and had to dab it with a paper towel because my customers were complaining of the big mess. It also took a long time to dry on the card. I have several other Craft Pads that I haven't had any problems with.
Since this is the first year for them at SU, I'm sure they'll be making improvements. It's good that you sent them back and let them know of the problems.
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Just a hint: it's very important to just tap the stamp on the craft pads. If you push down much, the goopy ink will spread past the raised areas of the stamp. The white is especially gooey because it is different than the other colors (But oh so cool!) Here is another comparison I got off a mailing list:
Dye-based ink:
Thinner than pigment-based ink
Pigment-based ink:
"Gooey"
Dye-based ink:
Great for stamping on paper & cardstock
Pigment-based ink:
Great for stamping on paper & cardstock & wood & fabric & anything
else that will hold still.
Dye-based ink:
Dries relatively quickly
Pigment-based ink:
Dries sloooowwllly - and will smudge easily. Recommend heat-setting
with an embossing gun.
Dye-based ink:
Is not light-fast. Light colors of ink will fade quickly (within 2-3
years, if out of direct sunlight.)
Pigment-based ink:
Is light-fast. Will not fade, whether dark or light colors.
Dye-based ink:
Typically not waterproof. (One exception is my Stampin' Up! Basic
Black pad - it's their only waterproof one.)
Pigment-based ink:
Once dry, it's waterproof.
Dye-based ink:
Cannot stamp light colors on dark backgrounds.
Pigment-based ink:
CAN stamp light colors on dark backgrounds. Try white ink on black
paper, or light yellow ink on navy paper - cool!
Dye-based ink:
Cannot be used for embossing - dries too fast.
Pigment-based ink:
Best for embossing - because it's gooey, and dries slowly, there's
time to get the embossing powder to stick to it.
Dye-based ink:
Cleans up off your stamps quickly and easily - use diaper wipes or
water and paper towels.
Pigment-based ink:
Tougher to clean off stamps, especially those with "nooks and
crannies". Strongly recommend a scrubbing pad and stamp cleaner.
Darn I JUST got the new classic black pad, not craft, and IT'S dried out already. I believe I read this week that someone had that experience with the craft ones. As far as I know my craft ones are fine. This is my first new classic pad that I've had. I just have the old type.
I have heard that once you get the ink flowing on the craft pads that the colors are very nice, really vibrant. The pad surface is different than the classic pads and needs the be tapped on a bit to get the ink to flow through. I love mine!
I am also having trouble with the craft pads running down the back of the box and into the next color. However it hasn't happened with all of them. Could humidity be a factor? Lack of use? They don't start to bleed until the package has been open for a couple of weeks. It also takes a very long time for them to dry. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. :(
I had problems with the first round of craft pads, but absolutely LOVE the new and improved version! The depth of the color is just so much more stunning - I've become a craft pad junkie!
I still keep some of the classic pads on hand for workshops, because I think those are great for cards and easier for people just beginning to stamp.
I just recently became a Stampin Up demonstrator (Nov 12th!) One month prior I realized my Craft pads (all 4 were leaking I called my present demonstrator (not the one I purchased them from in Feb) and she got them all replaced and now two months later they are still dry.....
So those of you who are having a problem......just call DS give them the party number, Hostess number etc etc and they will replace them with no questions asked.
When I first became a demo I got the Classic Inks! I loved them! When they changed the style, I sold the retired set to a friend and got the new ones, and I love them too! My only problem with the inks matching the paper is when they adjust the inks and paper back to their original coloring. :oops: Then I have different colors all around!
When SU first came up with the Craft Inks, I liked them a lot, especially because they matched our papers! Though they seemed a bit drier that other pigment ink pads that I had used. When they came out with the new version of their Craft Inks, again, my good friend came to the rescue, and I got the new version. I absolutely love the new version. None of them have been dry, and you really do need a couple of taps only to ink them up! Though I did have one ink that had a lot of color, I cleaned it up, and it still works great! I realized that I had stored it the wrong way, and that was why it got messy!
Anyway, Kim's suggestions for inks above is absolutely great! What a reference!
As for which to use.... I use the Craft for Scrapping and other surfaces, or if I want to prolong the color's life.... and the Classic for cards and such...
Hey everyone!!! What's the dif between the Classic Stampin Pad and the Craft Stampin Pad from SU!???????? I know the craft one is spongy-er, but seriously, what's the difference?? I have all of my ink pads in the Classic, and that's what I use for all my cards. Am I wrong??? Did I get the wrong pads? I'm so confused!!
So I can use my heating tool on the craft inks and it will be like I had used my versamark and the powder???? Goodness I'm still confused!!! I wish I lived in the states so I could go to some of those get-togethers I keep reading about! I'm sure a newbee like me would learn a lot at any gathering! HAHA!!!
Classic ink = dye ink. It dries faster. It can be used for techniques like "polished stone" on glossy cardstock. It is the best to use for stamping on glossy CS..
Craft ink = pigment ink. It is thicker. It dries slower. It can be used with embossing powder (makes a more intense color than versamark); for instance red ink with red embossing powder. It gives a more solid look when stamped on non-glossy cardstock. Not good with watercolors, as it might run.
So I can use my heating tool on the craft inks and it will be like I had used my versamark and the powder????
No, you use the craft ink with a matching EP. Blue ink under blue powder and red under red to give a more intense color than the clear versamark.
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I wish I lived in the states so I could go to some of those get-togethers I keep reading about! I'm sure a newbee like me would learn a lot at any gathering! HAHA!!! Kari
Keep trying out the weekly challenges here on Splitcoast as often as possible. You will be amazed at what you learn. BTW, where do you live?
I like using my craft inks and clear EP. That way everything matches my paper. You can also use use craft inks to change color of brads to match your paper. I dip head of brad in the desired color of craft ink and then dip in clear EP and heat. Now my brads match my paper perfectly. Color is a little muted but still the same color.
Classic (dye) ink soaks into the paper, and dries instantly; Craft (pigment) sits on top of the paper, has a slower drying time, and may be heat set and/or embossed. Craft (piment) ink is recommended for longevity if used in scrapbooking (if you want your scrapbook to last for generations). Dye ink is great for any watercoloring techniques. Craft ink can be used on fabrics if heat set. Now to add one more element to the puzzle, permanent inks, such as Staz-On, can be used on wood, foils, metals, glass, plastic, vinyl, as well as paper, dries instantly, has a solvent base. There are many sources on the internet with much more detailed information about inks. Hope this helps.
I wondered how they got color on some of the brads in pictures I saw. I am also very new. I do not even know what versamark is. Or EP (I am thinking its the pearl stuff I have). Oh well. I will keep on trying to learn.
Versamark pads is in clear or color. You can use the clear for embossing or to chalk an image. Clear versamark also leaves a slight watermark effect on plan cardstock which is cool. You use the versamark pad with color ink just like a craft pad and emboss with clear embossing powder.
"Regular" SU ink is dye ink. It will dry immediately and generally cannot be embossed. It is a fairly all purpose ink. Craft is a pigment ink -- creamier in texture, it will provide more dense coverage, can be embossed and can be used on things like fabric. However, it takes time to dry and will not dry on glossy paper or vellum unless embossed. There's a good reason to own both!
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Also, it depends on your personal preferences too! Personally, I like the classic stampin pads because you tend to be able to get more fine detail with them. Just my opinion!
The craft ink is more opaque so that you can stamp light colors on darker cardstock and it will show - or colors of similar intensity and they will retain more of their original color instead of blending with the color of the cardstock the way dye ink would. It's kind of like the craft ink is thicker and sits on top of the cardstock instead of being totally absorbed by it. I love to use craft ink with background stamps to mix colors (great for getting some of the color challenges to work.
You can also get better detail with craft ink by applying it with a brayer. This is really slick with background stamps.
Here are a few samples:
Craft Spots : This one uses Pretty in Pink and Certainly Celery craft inks on black carsdtock.
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Originally Posted by Joan B
"Regular" SU ink is dye ink. It will dry immediately and generally cannot be embossed. It is a fairly all purpose ink. Craft is a pigment ink -- creamier in texture, it will provide more dense coverage, can be embossed and can be used on things like fabric. However, it takes time to dry and will not dry on glossy paper or vellum unless embossed. There's a good reason to own both!
Wow...you learn something new everyday! I got the craft spots and didn't use them very often until...I discovered Irredesent Ice embossing powder!! Now I'm always reaching for them!
__________________ Heather
Mama to 3 boys! 8yo, 6yo and 5yo!! Stop saying "I can't". You can. You just chose not to.
Another thing about craft ink is it is upposed to last longer for scrapbooking purposes. I am not sure that was mentioned previously. I got all the craft inks first then realized for card making the classic is more prectical. This was mentioned but it is great for embossing because you can have all the colors with clear embossing powder.
SU Craft ink vs Classic Ink? *merged*
I think so many people buy the classic pads simply because they are $2 cheaper than the craft pads. But I have invested in some of the Craft pads and I absolutely love them. They are the ONLY thing I use in my scrapbooks, because I know the dye based inks will fade over the years. I've also used my Craft pads for embossing and many decorating items too (curtains, duvet cover, lamp shade). The colors are much more vibrant than those of the Classic pads because pigment ink is so thick. A lot of people notice the difference in my scrapbooks and my customers like using them for card workshops. I'm hoping to sell more of them so that I can BUY more of them! Try them out and let us know your opinion 
