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Old 02-28-2007, 06:25 AM   #41  
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Hi - I've been teaching stampers how to use professional alcohol markers for the last 6-7 years - I can tell you pretty much anything about the proper ink and paper combos as well as techniques - and for all you prismacolor pencil fans you would be thrilled to know with the right ink and paper you can get fabulous results combining the two. I'm not really a computer wiz and am new at this thread thing - I will answer one question in relation to the various brands of alcohol markers - to my knowledge you cannot refill the prismacolor brand and the prismacolor brand doesn't have a brush tip option - also they are manufactured in the USA (vs Japan for copic) which is why there is the definite price difference - I have owned and tried all brands - and Copic is my favorite. For more info you can e-mail me at [email protected]
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You girls are an amazing wealth of information - thank you again!
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Default Technique for Copic and Prisma Markers

The samples shown look beautiful! My question is - how do you actually work with the markers? Do you just color directly to the paper using the markers - or do you "mix" the marker colors with something else? I love the shading effects on the cards and was just wondering exactly how that is achieved.

Thanks for any help! I just bought some on sale at Michael's last week and I have been dying to use them - need more time in the day!
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The samples shown look beautiful! My question is - how do you actually work with the markers? Do you just color directly to the paper using the markers - or do you "mix" the marker colors with something else? I love the shading effects on the cards and was just wondering exactly how that is achieved.

Thanks for any help! I just bought some on sale at Michael's last week and I have been dying to use them - need more time in the day!

For blending, you can use Gamsol with the Prismacolor pencils.

For the COPIC markers, you use them directly onto your artwork. They also have a blending marker you could use. COPIC markers are huge in the anime world (Japanese animation). My niece draws her own anime character sketches. I bought her a set of COPIC markers last Christmas. She is in love with them! I was tempted to use them myself, too, but for stamping of course!
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Could someone tell me why you would get these new markers and stop using your SU markers or SU watercolor crayons or Prismacolor pencils with Gamsol?? Just curious...
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't "stop" using anything when I buy new goodies (markers, stamps, inks, etc). I use the right tools for the job o' the moment. Sometimes markers, sometimes paints, sometimes WC crayons... just depends on the look I want to achieve.

(...and I must have them ALL, just in case!) Hahaa!!

By the way, did you know Soozie, that March is "adopt a guinea pig" month? How FUN is that?!
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't "stop" using anything when I buy new goodies (markers, stamps, inks, etc). I use the right tools for the job o' the moment. Sometimes markers, sometimes paints, sometimes WC crayons... just depends on the look I want to achieve.

(...and I must have them ALL, just in case!) Hahaa!!

By the way, did you know Soozie, that March is "adopt a guinea pig" month? How FUN is that?!
LOL!! I know what you mean. I have gotta have options.

Got an email from Carpe Diem store, the Copic sketch markers will be on sale for 3.23 during April.
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How do you sign up to get e-mails from Carpe Diem??? And do they have their shipping info somewhere on their web site??

Ellen ~~ made any decisions yet???
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Could someone tell me why you would get these new markers and stop using your SU markers or SU watercolor crayons or Prismacolor pencils with Gamsol?? Just curious...
Heya, Soozie!

I should have been clearer in my post about what I'm getting the Prismacolor Markers for (which arrived yesterday!!! Eeeek! )

Instead of saying "replacing", I should have said "adding to my options"

I don't intend to get rid of my SU! markers--they are a fabulous water-based marker and perfect for direct to rubber techniques.

But, when coloring large expanses of an image stamped on paper, they (like all water-based markers) "streak" or leave "brushstrokes". In order to avoid that, I frequently turn to other methods of coloring an image, such as watercolor or pencils, etc.

Markers offer great speed and convenience, whereas watercolor and pencil work are more time consuming for me--I tend to get "engrossed" . . .

Anyhoo, like Anna, I reach for the right tool for the job, depending on the desired effect, and these alcohol based markers will fill a gap in my tools that I needed.

Once I figure out how to put together the rack that came with 'em . . .
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aaaack - life has been SO BUSY that I haven't been able to follow up on my "research" regarding the markers. I'm still on the fence, but I believe that I'm leaning towards the Copic Sketch series and selecting which colors I believe I will use. Life goes at such a whirlwind pace!!! The colored pencils I ordered arrived lickity split and so I can give service a thumbs up! HTH's and you will all know once I have decided in which direction my enabling will lead - LOL!
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LOL!! I know what you mean. I have gotta have options.

Got an email from Carpe Diem store, the Copic sketch markers will be on sale for 3.23 during April.
I emailed them and asked if they were on sale as well. I dont know if they have emails sent out with specials.
Does anyone know if the colorless blender is like SU's blender pens? Probably different since the ink isnt waterbased. I will just try it and see what happens but any info would be fab.
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Hi ladies,
I am leaning towards getting the copic markers, but how do you use them? The blending is incredible, but I'm needing some step by step directions. Any help would be appreciated, also is there a book out on how to use these pens?
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Hi ladies,
I am leaning towards getting the copic markers, but how do you use them? The blending is incredible, but I'm needing some step by step directions. Any help would be appreciated, also is there a book out on how to use these pens?
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Haven't seen the Copic markers here but our local JoAnn's has the 24 set of PrismaColor Markers on sale for about $58 (regular I think was about $85). I snapped up a set yesterday but haven't tested them yet.

I'd love to see a tutorial on ways to use them. Are they easier to blend than the water based markers? They don't streak on regular cardstock?
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Haven't seen the Copic markers here but our local JoAnn's has the 24 set of PrismaColor Markers on sale for about $58 (regular I think was about $85). I snapped up a set yesterday but haven't tested them yet.

I'd love to see a tutorial on ways to use them. Are they easier to blend than the water based markers? They don't streak on regular cardstock?
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right no streaks, and they are blendible because the ink is a solvent. Copic has colorless blender for blending too.
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right no streaks, and they are blendible because the ink is a solvent. Copic has colorless blender for blending too.
That's great! I'm going to my stamp room to play today and I'm going to test them out!
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So, how is everyone doing with their markers? I'd love some more feedback. I just bought a set of Copic Sketch and can't wait until they arrive!!
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LOL!! I know what you mean. I have gotta have options.

Got an email from Carpe Diem store, the Copic sketch markers will be on sale for 3.23 during April.
I do not see them on sale. I have looked earlier this month too. Am I looking in the wrong place? Here is what I see:
https://www.carpediemstore.com/listC...?idCategory=37
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I was wondering if I needed the original or the sketch? Everyone has the sketch? There are so many choices....basic,cool gray,neutrals,toner grays,warms gray? What ate you ordering? SEts or individual? Would the 36 color set be a good deal at 160.65? (copic )
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I have the SU markers and pencils. Be an enabler and convince me why I need the prisma and the copic markers.
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I just went tot he website to order a couple markers to try out but the shipping for 2 markers was over $12!!!
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I just went tot he website to order a couple markers to try out but the shipping for 2 markers was over $12!!!
WOW!! It was 13.00 for the set of 12. I wonder why so much for just 2?
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WOW!! It was 13.00 for the set of 12. I wonder why so much for just 2?
It takes as much in time and packing material costs to wrap up two markers and ship 'em out, as it would a set of 12. It's hard for consumers to understand this, but, from a retail perspective, the profit from the sale of 2 markers is not worth the time and energy to bother paying an employee + costs of packing materials, UKWIM?

So, in order to make it worth their time and expenses, they charge $12 to ship 2, but it would only cost you $13 S & H if you ordered a set of 12.
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I have the SU markers and pencils. Be an enabler and convince me why I need the prisma and the copic markers.
I can't. What I can do is tell you about the Prismacolor markers, and then you must decide if those differences make the product worth buying for your use.

Why I bought them: I wanted alcohol based markers that wouldn't show stroke marks, were permanent in nature, and featured both broad and fine high quality tips, and came in a beautiful, wide range of colors.

Prismas do.

I bought a set of 72 Prismacolor markers. The cost at that website was more or less the same as buying the 48 set of SU! markers. However, in hindsight, I would have hand-selected my colors; the sets include too many grey markers for my needs.

They also bleed through to the other side on most of the card stock I have used them on. Unless you are matting the piece to mount onto a base card, this can be a highly undesirable draw-back.

You cannot watercolor with them, nor use them direct to rubber.

The set did come with a cool looking "vertical" storage stand, but, I think I'd rather plop 'em all into a cute bucket with a handle, for easier transport. And, it'd be cute. I like cute.

Some of the colors are so close, maybe a hair lighter or darker than another, that, again, I should have hand-selected.

Are they good quality markers? Yes. Do I like them? Yes. But have to keep all the above in mind as I work with them. And, as I said, I wish now I had hand-selected the colors individually, as opposed to purchasing a pre-packed set.
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Are the copic any different than the prisma markers? As far as quality or performance? Or is it basically the same just different companiies?
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Are the copic any different than the prisma markers? As far as quality or performance? Or is it basically the same just different companiies?
Copic are more expensive, but you can buy refill ink for them. You may never hafta replace the nibs/marker itself for all eternity, from what I've heard? Don't quote me on that, tho.

The barrell is also square, so they don't roll off your work surface.
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Why can't you use the prisma or copic to directly color your stamps?
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Why can't you use the prisma or copic to directly color your stamps?
They are alcohol-based, not water-based. The ink evaporates so fast, that no amount of huffing or spritzing with water would re-activate it enough to be able to get an impression onto paper, as can be done with water-based markers.
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From my experience with Prismacolor markers. . .wow. . .I cannot express how big of a difference they are compared to water based markers. The difference is the ability to layer dark to light colors therefore highlighting and shading is possible. The slight difference in colors of the same color family allows you to shade and highlight different areas and not have a change in color. I use my markers also with the Prisma "color-less" blender which basicially, removes color or lighten them so that layering another color becomes possible.

The colors are vibrant, the pens easy to work with, and no stroke markers. They don't compromise the cardstock because they dry quickly unlike water-based markers. Water-based markers compromise the cardstock when attempting to layer and instead of light colors over dark turning light, the color completely changes to a different color because like watercolor, they'll mix with one another. The markers also matches the colors of your Prismacolor Pencils therefore, mixing mediums is possible. Coloring over the markers with a lighter colored pencil is an easy way to add highlights. Also shading is possible using the Prismacolor pencils with markers. If you search through Google, there are various sites that provide tutorials on how to use the Prismacolor markers.
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I have read all of the posts regarding the prismacolor markers. I was looking into ordering some, but had one question. I went to Dick Blick website. Are you talking about the Prismacolor Four-in-one marker?

Thanks for the information.

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Hi all.

The copic SKETCH markers are 40% off retail at

carpediemstore.com

Yea!!!
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I just got this message from the customer service folks regarding their sale on the copic sketch markers! I can't believe it! Thanks for whoever posted the carpediemstore.com post a couple of days ago.
Sale ends on June 30

Re: Copic Coupon

The coupon code link on our website is down. If you want to order just
place the order and customer service are instructed to manually apply the
discount at the time of shipping. We will email you final total which will
reflect the 40 % off. Your credit card does not get charged until your order
is ready to ship. You will only be billed for what is shipped. Any
backorders less than $25.00 will be canceled.

Copic Sketch are $3.57 (list : $5.95) . 12 Set (SB-12) is discountd at 50%
off from List.

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Lots of great information here on Prisma and Copic. Only one person mentioned Tria. Here is a link to them as they are sale. Any more thoughts from users of this marker? I am trying to choose between Tria and Copic at this point. https://www.carpediemstore.com/listC...idCategory=541
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:13 PM   #76  
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My goodness, I just got a 72 set of Prismacolor markers, 48 prismacolor pencils, but these are watercolor, verithin and color pencil, all for 91.99 shipped. I am thrilled to try these. Been wanting to for a long time.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:14 PM   #77  
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Oops, forgot to say got them on ebay.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:31 PM   #78  
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Trying again on this thread with my question.
Are Prisma pencils and prism pencils the same thing.. I have prism that i bought at the local printing store..i don't really like them.. I am going to Grand Forks and Fargo in August and would like to get some good pencils (watercolor?) not sure..would appreciate any replies..thank-you
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:40 PM   #79  
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Gail, I don't believe so. Prismacolor will say prismacolor premiere pencils on it. I have never heard of prism pencils.
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