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Old 02-09-2008, 04:04 PM   #1  
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Default I'm crying in my Copics...

I am so sad....
I've tried everything I know to do and my image is smearing. I've read several threads about the best inks to use. The last one I tried was the Brilliance. I heat set it until I thought the paper would burst into flames.

I am using SU Whisper white because I have a crap load of the paper. Is there any way to make it work? Will I have to break down and buy a different paper? Anyone want to buy a two day old set of Copics? My prisma color pencils are laughing at me saying "We told you we were good enough!"

Please help me....
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Rachael, I know that Gina K uses SU whisper white. I however do not use it if I am going to use my copics. You should try a heavier cardstock such as PTI Stampers Select or I read Georgia Pacific which is available right at Wal-Mart and is dirt cheap. I use Stampers Select fromPTI and I always use Adirondack Pitch Black or Espresso and I have never had a problem with smearing.
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I'll send you my address! Hmmm. I wonder what is going on? I only have SLIGHT smearing issues at times. Most of what I use is the GP paper from WalMart.
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Right. I wouldn't use Whisper White either. It is too smooth.
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Don't give up on your copics yet. I just got mine and have been playing with different papers and inks. So far, I have had the best results with SU WW and Palette Noir Black Ink Pad. I haven't tried StazOn yet....that's next.
I still love my prismas...and will never give them up....but I have been really liking the Copics.
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Hi I use Ranger Adirondack pitch black and espresso. I get the best result from using them. I thought I read you can't use copic and Stazon because they are both solvent based.

I use both WW and Papertrey paper.
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Don't bother with the StazOn, it doesn't work with Copics. I use the GP 110lb from Walmart and Brilliance, works great with the Copics even if I don't heat set.
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Don't give up on them yet! If you send me your address, I'll mail out some quarter sheets of the Georgia Pacific cardstock for you to try to see if that will work better for them rather than you going out and buying more cardstock before you know if it will work or not. PM me if you want to try a bit and I'll put them out in the mail on Monday.
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Staz on is terrible with Copics. I would not waste much time -test it out, but you'll see they are not compatible.

The Ranger Pitch black and Brilliance Graphite are the best ones for me. How heavy is the outline of the stamp you are using? Maybe try not going completely over the stamped black part and see if it helps!! Just color up as close as you can to the lines....

Sorry you are having some trouble. It takes a little getting used to, that's for sure! I have used my SU whisper white and it's fine....The only ones that weren't great were the really thin ones from Joann's or Michael's.
Over time, the coloring will 'mellow out' - so keep that in mind too!
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Don't give up on your copics yet. I just got mine and have been playing with different papers and inks. So far, I have had the best results with SU WW and Palette Noir Black Ink Pad. I haven't tried StazOn yet....that's next.
I still love my prismas...and will never give them up....but I have been really liking the Copics.
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Rachael, I know that Gina K uses SU whisper white. I however do not use it if I am going to use my copics. You should try a heavier cardstock such as PTI Stampers Select or I read Georgia Pacific which is available right at Wal-Mart and is dirt cheap. I use Stampers Select fromPTI and I always use Adirondack Pitch Black or Espresso and I have never had a problem with smearing.
I actually get the GP paper at Walmart, it is dirt cheap and has worked well for me. I had the same issue using the copics at first. Then I did get the Brillance and that worked well. Bascially what I did was stamp the image and set it aside for a while to dry well. I didn't try heat setting. Scary if it burst into flames. Now I have to work on the blending and shading...
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Thanks so much, ladies....I was (am) having buyers remorse! I'll give the GP paper a try and see how that works. I guess I wasn't being as careful as I should in staying away from the edges of the image. You know...it's all so new...just like the first time I held an aquapainter....and I think I've got the hang of that. Okay....I won't give up yet!


Thank you, mrsjllove, for the offer of your cardstock. That is SUPER SWEET! I am actually headed to Walmart on Monday to get a few things so I can pick some up. Your the bestest!
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Now I have to work on the blending and shading...

Oh, and then I'll have that to look forward to! Ah... the joys of learning something new in the world of papercrafting.
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I use Palette Noir and papertrey ink cardstock and it works splendidly!
Adirondack inks work great.

I love my Copics! I ran the blender pen out in just a few days. My LSS is trying to find a refill for me. lol
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I had this problem too until I tried the Pallette Noir ink - clear stamping and no smearing with Copics. I've also found the Georgia Pacific cardstock from Walmart to work very well.
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I've tried a few different inks with my copics and found that Palette has been working the best. Brilliance smeared on me even after heat setting. Versafine wasn't working either.

I use GP paper from Walmart.
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Question: Would it be safe to say that if you are using a water-based coloring technique, to use StazOn; and if you are using a solvent based coloring technique, to use a water-based ink to stamp the image? Just as a general guideline?
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I use the Pallete Noir and have not had a problem either!
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Is the Georgia Pacific paper located in the scrapbooking section of Walmart or elsewhere?

Last time I was there, I took a very quick look in the scrapbooking section & didn't notice it.

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I experienced the same problems. Tried every ink and paper combo known! Very frustrating until I tried Adirondack inks in Pitch Black and Espresso. My problems were solved! Believe it or not these are dye inks and are very reasonable!
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My WalMart has the Georgia Pacific paper with the office supplies and other paper for your printer, etc.
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Where do you find Palette Noir Ink?
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Papertrey Ink (www.papertreyink.com) and All That Scraps (www.allthatscraps.com) have Palette Noir, as well as many other colors. Another WONDERFUL online retailer with AMAZING customer service that carries both the Palette pads as well as the Adirondack Pitch Black and Espresso is Cornish Heritage Farms (www.cornishheritagefarms.com). Ellen Hutson (www.ellenhutson.com) also carries Palette pads - they also have wonderful customer service. I would have to say that Cornish Heritage Farms is the fastest shipping - IMHO. Hope this helps!
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Also The Angel Company sells them so if you know a girl who sells that then you can get a hold of her.
Where is Mill Creek? Never heard of it
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Where is Mill Creek? Never heard of it
Oh, you're right! I forgot about The Angel Company. Mill Creek is about 23 miles north of Seattle between Lynnwood and South Everett. Cute little golf community - we've lived there about 10 years.
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Does this info also apply to markers like Prismacolor? I'm very sad to say I don't have Copic yet....but they are on my list of NEED/WANT/GOTTA HAVE stuff. I'm just waiting for DH to turn his head for a minute and when he isn't looking I can order some! How cool that everyone share info so we don't all pull our hair out! I'll get the right inks and paper when I get Copics now that I know what to get.

GARKARLON --- Your baby picture just cracks me up!!! How totally CUTE!!
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Karolyn, a golf community? My son would love it because he loves golf! Eats, sleeps, lives for golf. We have had so much snow that I am not sure he will ever be able to golf again. We will have to come check it out. We love to go to Mariner games and are always trying to find something else to do in the area.

Versamom - I always use Palette Noir or Stazon with my prismas and mineral spirits and it works great. I just got the Adirondack Espresso pad and can't wait to try that out with the prismas.
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Where did you find the Adirondak pad?

Do they carry this brand in a brick & mortar store? Someplace such as Michaels, Joann, Hobby Lobby, Archivers, etc.

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GARKARLON --- Your baby picture just cracks me up!!! How totally CUTE!!

Hahaha! Thanks! The baby is not really mine - I found it on an avatar website and thought it was hilarious, too! I love to laugh . . . and this one certainly did the trick.
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Karolyn, a golf community? My son would love it because he loves golf! Eats, sleeps, lives for golf. We have had so much snow that I am not sure he will ever be able to golf again. We will have to come check it out. We love to go to Mariner games and are always trying to find something else to do in the area.
Yes, we feel very blessed to live in TWO golf communities. We live in Mill Creek in the summers, and we live in Arizona in the winter - haven't seen snow in AGES, except on TV when we see the news reports about ALL the snow the Pacific Northwest has gotten this year. Your son should check Mill Creek out - it's a great place to live!
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Dina, my tiny local scrapbook store carried them. We have a tiny Michaels and tiny Joanns and neither of them carry those. Good luck finding them, they are totally worth the hunt!
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I am starting to think that there isn't a guaranteed ink to work with copics from what I've read here!

I use Papertrey's white cardstock......I can NEVER again use SU white, just try it and you'll see why!

But I have terrible smearing with palette noir ink, but I havent had any smearing with brilliance graphite!

I am interested in trying the Adirondac ink though because so far I haven't read anyone saying it smeared! Plus I wouldnt have to heat set it!

I'm not any help, but I think you'll just have to play around with different inks and paper until you find YOUR perfect combo!
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I just received my order of Papertrey White paper. I heard people talking about it, so i had to get some. haven't used it yet.
I always use Prismacolor pencils, with and without Gamsol, chalks, other pencils. Once in a while I will use a marker. I don't know much about COPICS that everyone is talking about. I saw some at one of my local stamp stores but they were very thick. One had a pointy end, but would be way too big to color small spaces. Do they come in fine tip?? Are they worth the investment?
I guess I would like to try one before buying. I have been using the White Shimmer paper from SU lately. I like the way it looks.
So if anyone can advise about the COPICS, I'd appreciate it!!!
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Love my Copics! I use WW or, even more often, Georgia Pacifics heaviest paper at Wal-Mart. I use Black Brilliance ink.
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I just received my order of Papertrey White paper. I heard people talking about it, so i had to get some. haven't used it yet.
I always use Prismacolor pencils, with and without Gamsol, chalks, other pencils. Once in a while I will use a marker. I don't know much about COPICS that everyone is talking about. I saw some at one of my local stamp stores but they were very thick. One had a pointy end, but would be way too big to color small spaces. Do they come in fine tip?? Are they worth the investment?
I guess I would like to try one before buying. I have been using the White Shimmer paper from SU lately. I like the way it looks.
So if anyone can advise about the COPICS, I'd appreciate it!!!
There are a few different types of the Copic Markers. I believe that the ones you are speaking of are the Sketch Style which I have. Because of the material of which the tips are made I can get into very tiny areas even with the brush tip and they will not fray like some other markers. When you do make the investment I suggest that you get a few colors that you like and some of the lightest colors in each family (the 00's and 000's) I have actually been using the light colors to blend more than the colorless blender. If you want more information on using the Copics try visiting GinaK's blog. She is selling them in sets and has been very good at explaining each step she does when coloring her images.
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My LSS got in sets of Copic Ciao. They have a broad end and a fine tip end - the fine tip is sort of like a brush end.
I use them the wrong way - lol - I use the blender to pull color off of the thick chip end and then onto my Papertrey paper. I think you are supposed to use similar colors and then brush each say the light tip from the darker tip
and then color. It is crazy because the colors don't transfer!

Anyway, to play with them I would suggest you find a place that sells individual pens and then get 2 colors that are similar for ex. light pink and medium pink or something like that. And get a blender. Then go home and play.

I know there are many other people who know tons more than me and who are professionals! Try www.ellenhutson.com sometimes she has tutorials that involve copics.
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Hi Karolyn,

We lived in Mill Creek for a year after we moved back from living in Santa Barbara for 8 years. The only thing that I remember about it was the horrendous traffic! That was in 1998 - After a year of headaches we moved closer to the water and the city...now the commute is 10 minutes when traffic is light and 30 minutes when it's heavy. Mill Creek and the surrounding areas have changed soooo much in the past 10 years! WOW!
And it has snowed a lot this year! (But we love it!)


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Yes, we feel very blessed to live in TWO golf communities. We live in Mill Creek in the summers, and we live in Arizona in the winter - haven't seen snow in AGES, except on TV when we see the news reports about ALL the snow the Pacific Northwest has gotten this year. Your son should check Mill Creek out - it's a great place to live!
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:41 AM   #37  
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I am so sad....
I've tried everything I know to do and my image is smearing. I've read several threads about the best inks to use. The last one I tried was the Brilliance. I heat set it until I thought the paper would burst into flames.

I am using SU Whisper white because I have a crap load of the paper. Is there any way to make it work? Will I have to break down and buy a different paper? Anyone want to buy a two day old set of Copics? My prisma color pencils are laughing at me saying "We told you we were good enough!"

Please help me....

Quite a while I picked up a RANGER Vick Bantock brown inkpad. I decided to try it with the Gamsol technique and my Prisma Markers. It does NOT smear with either one!!! I even went right over the ink and no smearing!
All I did was stamp my image on GP white and let it dry a few minutes.
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Hi Karolyn,

We lived in Mill Creek for a year after we moved back from living in Santa Barbara for 8 years. The only thing that I remember about it was the horrendous traffic! That was in 1998 - After a year of headaches we moved closer to the water and the city...now the commute is 10 minutes when traffic is light and 30 minutes when it's heavy. Mill Creek and the surrounding areas have changed soooo much in the past 10 years! WOW!
And it has snowed a lot this year! (But we love it!)
Hi Elaine!

Yes, the traffic is horrible. My husband and I commuted in that nonsense for 20 years (we've always lived north of Seattle). Fortunately, we were both able to retire early - we wake up every day and thank God we don't have to commute! And yes, Mill Creek has changed a lot in the last 10 years. The new little Mill Creek Town Center is so much fun - lots of cute shops and restaurants. You must really miss Santa Barbara - I LOVE Santa Barbara!
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wow, some great tips here....i am thinking of getting some copics and i had not even thought of the paper part of the equation, i would have tried WW and perhaps been frustrated, i also would have used my stazon....
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