getting paper adhered SMOOTHLY???
 

Hey everyone,

I got a Bind-it-all for Christmas, and I am ready to make
some books.

But, how do you get the cover papers down smoothly?
My first try was with Bind-it-all covers, and I used a glue
stick for complete coverage. I brayered and smoothed for
ages... then it dried- all bumpy!
So today I tried some modge podge on coasters. I smooth
and smooth and smooth.... I still can see it won't dry smooth...

How do you get smooth covers? That the edges won't pull
up? I mean, I could just grab the ATG and put some paper on,
but the edges would be weak and pull up.

HELP!

Anne

Spray on adhesive. I think the brand name is Krylon. But I'm not sure.
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Oops! Now that I checked online, I find that Krylon makes paint.

Just go to Michael's or Wal-Mart and ask for spray adhesive.

NOTE: Very thin paper may still cause bumps. Spray adhesive is not repositionable. You need to be lined up before you put the paper and chipboard together.

I use the UHUstic brand of adhesive, and I have never had a problem with it drying 'bumpy' or peeling up from the edge even after sanding. I have only used it on chipboard coasters, though, and not a BIA cover. Maybe the cover is 'bumpy' to start with??

if you use a glue stick and then sit on it for a few minutes! sounds stupid but it works. your weight keeps it even and your body heat help it to adhere. just make sure you don't have any spilling out or it could get messy

I have no problems with double-sided tape. For books and projects that are meant to last forever, I go all round the edges, and put an X in the middle

In books on bookbinding, PVA adhesive is brushed firmly onto the paper using something like a stencil brush. Cover completely and quickly. Then adhere, making sure the grain of the paper and the grain of the board match. (If you glue across the grain, the cover will eventually warp.) Cover with waxed paper and burnish with a bone folder. Wrap in clean wax paper and place under weight until dry, 12-24 hours depending.

It's a lot of work, but it works every time beautifully. And it's very, very permanent.

Thanks so much everyone!

Dumb question tho- how do you tell the grain on paper?

Anne

I always cover my books by cutting the paper about an inch bigger than the cover, miter the corners, and wrap the paper around the chipboard glueing down with ATG. Then put a square of PP/CS on the inside cover . Gives a nice, plished look. HTH!

Not dumb at all! Bend the paper by bringing two opposite sides together. The grain runs parallel to the sides that bend easier to each other. Machine-made papers always have a grain, and there will be noticeably greater resistance when you bend against the grain. In bookbinding, the grain should always run parallel to the spine of the book. This prevents warping of the whole structure either immediately or over time.

With a BIA, the wire spine is pretty forgiving, and I don't think it's so important to have the grain parallel. But anytime I use liquid adhesive, I always align the grain because liquid can warp paper/book board/chip board and really make a mess.

Thanks! I will try out the ideas and see what works for me.

Anne

I use my ATG. Then sand the edges to round corners and ink with matching ink. Makes the chipboard look like the paper was already attached... MAKE SENSE??

For Xmas I made 12 Coaster Calendar books and I was having the same paper problem. Out of sheer frustration, I grabbed the Martha Stewart Glitter Glue I bought to try and it works great! It does not wrinkle the paper, wipes off with a baby wipe and holds great.

Thanks for the tip! I am still trying stuff out...

Anne

These are some great ideas! I think I will have better luck now!

I have had great success with double sided tape...I have used it for BIA covers and on coasters...it is also very easy to 'pick' up the paper and reposition if you don't get it exactly where you want it the first time.

I have tried a TON of different adhesives when it comes to paper and chipboard...

so far the best and quickest has been the SU glue stick...I don't know who makes it but it works well to cover the whole chipboard all the way to the edges....no bumps either...the SU glue stick has a more "creamy" constancy than a regualr glue stick like Elmers - so it goes down very smoothly.

I haven't had much luck with spray adhesive - I have tried it and it makes everything sticky but even after 24 hours I can still peel up the paper on my chipboard (using Scotch Permanent spray adhesive) - maybe it is the chipboard I am using?

Someone recently mentioned Yes glue to me and I have gotten myself a jar of that but I haven't tried it out yet.

Newbie here . . . what is "ATG"? Thanks ;)

Mary,

ATG is a type of *dispenser* and the adhesive that goes along with it. They're pretty big, but well worth the investment.

The cheapest place I have found them is Here. They sell the refills at the best price I've seen too.

HTH

ATG is my vote too. Its great for everything. Card making, scrapbooking, anything that you need to stick. And it will not lose its stick!

Adhesives to use on chipboard
 

I have had good luck using Modge Podge on paper trimmed closely to the edges of the chipboard....then I use a Dry wall sander to take the bulk of the paper off the edges. I finish with a SU sanding block or a nail file in close in places (like the center of chipboard letters). The Drywall sander makes fast work of taking the paper right down to the chipboardwithout tearing it. One of my upline used this trick when we were covering notebooks and needed to trim paper closely. After seeing how easily it worked, I asked to borrow my DH's sander...he was so impressed that his next trip to Home Depot, he surprised me with one of my own!

my pick for all paper to paper projects? Zip N' Dry glue.. it is INCREDIBLE.. I don't use tape anymore! this liquid glue is meant for paper, it doesn't wrinkle or buckle.. is SIMPLE to use! PHENOM product!
gets the Bella seal of approval... lol!

Em

Thanks for ATG tip!

Another vote for spray adhesive. If you use it quickly, it sticks great and is as smooth as buttah.

TIP: Use a "spray box" or a regular cardboard box to lay the paper in and then spray so the stuff doesn't get everywhere.

I live the Zip n Dry but once the tip clogs, fa'getaboutit! (I must be on a Jersey roll!)

I hope the green Mono Multi from SU's new catalog will be a great product for smooth paper layers! *wish*

FYI, I found a WONDERFUL glue in early December - it's called Zip Dry Paper Glue. It dries fast with no wrinkles. I have used it on all different kinds of papers and it worked great on all of them. So great, that I haven't had my ATG out in weeks - use this glue for everythin.