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Old 04-30-2013, 05:35 PM   #1  
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I'm sure these will become more popular as the price falls. I picked some up for less than $2.10 each yesterday. But, now I need card.

Any experienced SN users out there who can give me feedback on what they use? I'm in Aus so papers tend to differ from what is available in US. I often shop online but I NeeeeeD some today for when my markers turn up. ;-)
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:45 PM   #2  
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I'm also curious about the ability of any of the good colouring papers to go through a laser printer. I understand bleedproof paper has a thin plastic coating on the back.
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I have the Spectrum markers, and also a few Copics. I use a 110 lb cardstock that I buy in a pack at a discount club, Sams. I have good results with it, but lots of people use different kinds of cardstock with their markers, and will have their own opinions.

I put this cardstock through my Canon printer with no problems. My printer has a paper feed on the outside, and the paper runs through the printer with just a slight curve, so it doesn't jam.

If you have a printer that takes the paper inside and wraps around a roller to print, sometimes the cardstock will jam and not go through.
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I have been using Georgia Pacific cardstock from Wal-mart, but I don't think I would recommend it for markers. I only use it because 1) I can afford it, 2) I have some, 3) I can buy it locally, and 4) it will go through my printer.

I am just learning to color with alcohol markers, am not an artist, and am on a limited budget.

In another thread, TheCrasftySister and I are comparing Copics to Spectrum Noir markers. She did her chart on Hammermill 80# Cover Copy (available through Wal-mart on-line and I’ve heard others say maybe in Office Depot or other stores). It has a wonderful feel and the markers glide on it. She sent me a couple of extra sheets to try. I want to see if it will go through my printer. If it will, I will be ordering some.

I’m sure others will share their recommendations also—Neenah, PTI, Gina K, etc.
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If you are able to get the Hammermill ins Australia, I can verify that it works in laser printers if you use the bypass feed (the feed that shoots it straight thru; the one you would use for labels). It doesn't have a plastic coating of any kind on it.

I'm far from an expert, but it's my understanding that you don't really want bleedproof paper when working with alcohol markers. The bleeding kind of helps with the blending.
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Cheryl I have to admit I'm finding it confusing. The papers I see being used on SCS don't appear to be bleedproof but when I read the art sites about alcohol markers and when I went to the local art supplies store, bleedproof was the way to go.

So I suppose what I need is information about what qualities make good marker papers.

Anyway, I have some bleedproof to work with and some Panther which is my cheap base card. My markers arrived yesterday and I'm yet to get them out. :(
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KoffeeKat - I agree, it's way confusing! I can tell you what I've tried and what I've read, though.

I had regular GP cardstock that I was playing with, and I wasn't entirely happy with my experiments. I was getting the cardstock too saturated and ink was bleeding over the edges of the image and I didn't think I was using that much ink.

I was able to get the Hammermill stock mentioned locally (so no waiting for shipping, yay!) and it made a world of difference. I wasn't coloring any differently, but everything blended better and no more bleeding outside the lines. However, it's definitely not bleedproof - if you look at the backs of the stock, there is lots of bleed thru!

Gina K's 120lb baseweight cardstock isn't marketed as bleed-proof (I don't think), but others have found that they can use it for single-layer Copic cards with no color bleed through. However, I have read other stampers who say that it is not as easy to get the colors to blend on it; they kind of float on the top and don't mix. I can tell you that once-upon-a-time I tested the polished stone technique with Ranger Alcohol Inks and the Gina K cardstock, and there was very little ink that soaked thru to the back. The same technique on glossy cardstock had a backside that was almost as colorful as the front.

Spectrum Noir has a FAQ page HERE -- a couple of questions down and they start talking about suitable cardstock. Maybe something in there will help?
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My experience is that Neenah solar white 110 lb cover is bleed-proof with my Copics so I'd guess probably with SN also, but I don't know that for a fact.

As mentioned above, bleed-through to the backside of the paper really only matters if the backside of the paper is visible. Copics instructors tell students to look for the bleed-through to ensure they're applying enough ink.

I also learned in a Copics class that one thing that helps to keep ink inside the image lines when coloring with the markers is to not color quite all the way to the edge of the image line.
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