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Old 06-03-2008, 10:30 AM   #41  
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I just stamped out a few random images and sat and practiced with them. Not nearly as difficult as I thought they would be.
I'm so glad you are finding them easy because I need to go to Copic school.
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I'm so glad you are finding them easy because I need to go to Copic school.
Keep trying and read all the blogs possible - that is what I have been doing. I am far from "perfect", but I was not immediatley sorry that I had spent the $$'s - kwim.

I stamped my images on the PTI white cs and it worked great.

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I'm so glad you are finding them easy because I need to go to Copic school.
What's giving you a problem? Maybe collectively we can figure it out!
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I have definitely been reading and watching tutorials as much as I can.

What I have been doing is putting down my darker line where I want it and then getting my lighter color marker and blending where the line stopped, moving the lighter color in all over the image. I just feel like I'm going over and over the image trying to blend though.
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Also, it's like I can't get that solid darker line to blend out even if I go over it with the light color quickly before it has time to completely dry.
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I have definitely been reading and watching tutorials as much as I can.

What I have been doing is putting down my darker line where I want it and then getting my lighter color marker and blending where the line stopped, moving the lighter color in all over the image. I just feel like I'm going over and over the image trying to blend though.
Honestly, I go over mine a lot too. But I usually start by filling the whole area in in my lightest color (unless I want to leave some of the white of the page for a highlight), then I move a value deeper and use that lightest value to "scumble" over the line and eradicate it. Then I pop in my darkest value, and use the medium value to blend it into the medium value. By that time I usually have to pick up my lightest value one more time and give it the once over to have a super-smooth, no-lines look. If it's too dark when I finish, or if I've lose a highlight, I pull out the clear blender and use it to lift color out--not to blend. The only time I actually blend with the clear blender is when I have a very pale tone that I'm trying to blend seamlessly into the cardstock color.

I think one big thing is to try to take it in small chunks. I find that the Copics blend best wet into wet (like watercolors), and if you try to color a great big area, you start losing the wetness and have to go over and over it.

I'm not sure I'm making sense. . . One of these days I'm going to get one of those video recorders that Kristina Werner recommends and use it!!
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My daughter got me on to Copics. I will agree they have a learning curve but I feel like they give me better control that other markers I've tried. And the color selection allows you a lot of latitude. When I started building my collection I purposely went with lighter colors first. Little by little I've been adding to what I have.

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I usually start by filling the whole area in in my lightest color (unless I want to leave some of the white of the page for a highlight), then I move a value deeper and use that lightest value to "scumble" over the line and eradicate it. Then I pop in my darkest value, and use the medium value to blend it into the medium value.
Debbie, can you break that down for me in actual color examples.
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I love my copics this is what I do way easy...

I start with only two colors, Color entire image with LIGHTER color using circular motion, then draw in with DARKER color where I want my shading to be, then with LIGHTER color again I color in circular motion going over where dark meets light, when I have the line blended to my satisfaction go back over the entire area again with LIGHTER color.

I use Neenah Classic Crest Solar white with Adirondak (no heat setting) or Brilliance (needs heat setting) ink.

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Debbie, can you break that down for me in actual color examples.
Patty's way works. I usually use three shades, but that's certainly not a rule.

Right now I'm coloring flowers with R20 as a base, R22 as a mid tone, and R24 as a shadow. (If I wanted an even deeper shadow, I'd toss in just a tiny bit of R29, but I haven't felt the need for it so far.)

I color my whole petal with R20, then add R22 at the base and around the edges, then blend that into the R20 with the R20 marker.

Next I add the R24 just at the base of the petal, then blend that into the R22 with the R22 pen, then use the R20 one more time to totally soften any lines I have left.

If I need a highlight area and have lost it, I'll take my 0 Clear Blender and touch it to the spot that I want to lift color from.

I'd take a picture, but I'm using a pre-release set and would be in hot water. I'm on the way to a baseball game with my son in a few minutes. (Bwahaha! That sounds like--in my best Arnold S. imitation--"I could show you, but I'd have to keel [sic] you."

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THANKS ya'll. I really think that will help me have a better idea of what I need to be trying to do anyway.
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Subscribing. I'm on the fence about trying the copics. I guess as everyone has previously said, try a few in a color group and go from there.
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Sometimes I think you must need a little "talent" when it comes to coloring like this. Don't really know if it's something you can learn or just naturally need to have KWIM...
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WOW! Subscribing, as I just recently started using Copics and haven't progressed to blending yet. Thanks for all the great info.
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Hi Ladies, I am using the Georgia pacific card stock #110 and am having a horrible time with my copics bleeding. I am stamping my image using Staz-On ink I thought that was ok but cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. Any help/guidance is appreciated!!
Frustrated in Florida...
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StazOn won't work with Copic's. If you go back through the previous post's, you will find what the others are recommending to use.
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Yup, no Staz-On with Copics! And yes, anyone can learn how to color with Copics. Practice, practice, practice!!!
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Hi Ladies, I am using the Georgia pacific card stock #110 and am having a horrible time with my copics bleeding. I am stamping my image using Staz-On ink I thought that was ok but cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. Any help/guidance is appreciated!!
Frustrated in Florida...
To avoid ink feathering when coloring with Copics, I recommend using a heat-set pigment ink like Brilliance Graphite Black by Tsukineko, OR Memento Tuxedo Black Dye Ink, also by Tsukineko, if you want a good black ink, but don't want to heat set.

Others swear by Versafine, by Tsukineko, and others by Adirondack Pitch Black, and Nick Bantock's Black both by Ranger Industries.

Some like Palette Hybrid in Noir.

My two "go-to" inks for working with Copics are Brilliance or Memento.

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Sometimes I think you must need a little "talent" when it comes to coloring like this. Don't really know if it's something you can learn or just naturally need to have KWIM...
Actually, many of us are self-taught, through extensive practice and research. Also, there are many, tho certainly not all, that you'll see who achieve beautiful results because they have taken classes to learn the nuances and particulars of working with alcohol markers--Copic in particular!

It is totally worthwhile to take a class--there's so much you can learn! When you take a class, you benefit from the time and experience the instructor herself/himself has invested to learn about them, and it helps you avoid wasting time and supplies on what doesn't work!

There is somewhat of a learning curve, but, I would say that anybody can learn to use them!

HTH and encourages you,
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There is somewhat of a learning curve, but, I would say that anybody can learn to use them!
HTH and encourages you,
As usual, Julie is "right on"!
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I would LOVE to take a class.
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I am currently putting together a demonstration at the store I manage to get my customers intersted in Copics. The demo is planned for July 25th but already I've got people buzzing about these, and had a customer order a set of 36 yesterday so she can get a jump start! I've been in contact with Marianne for some help so I can kinda' sound like I know what I'm talking about for the demo (I've been using Copics since the fall but am no expert!) and she's given me some great information. The best info so far is that she now has a BLOG!!! So for those of you needing help, she's already got some really helpful tips posted in her first 2 entries! And if you're on the fence, you won't be for long!

http://ilikemarkers.blogspot.com/
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Default Thanks Tammy!

Tammy, thanks for the info - how about a road trip and class in Florida?? Leave the storms and tornadoes in Ohio though please!
I am going to check out the blog you mentioned now.
Thanks again and have a great week!!
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Default Julie - you are great!

Wow- this is great thank you for the help!! Someone else had told me the Staz on was ok if I heat set it (ha like I know how to do that). But I am going to check into the other inks - I heard the Momento was great by others too.
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Actually, many of us are self-taught, through extensive practice and research. Also, there are many, tho certainly not all, that you'll see who achieve beautiful results because they have taken classes to learn the nuances and particulars of working with alcohol markers--Copic in particular!

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There is somewhat of a learning curve, but, I would say that anybody can learn to use them!

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Ladies ... whatever you do ... please do not 'give it up'. Just as Julie stated, many of us really are self-taught. And truly, the Copics do have their own "learning curve" as Julie has reminded.

If something is not turning out as you had envisioned, "try" adding more colors, "try" using a lighter shade of your desired color ... ... the key is "try" something else. In the meantime, if you find a nearby class, consider taking it. But don't let that prevent you from "trying" to add, or change what you are already doing. Experimentation often leads to discovery!

For those who have had trouble with Palette ink pads, that's the only thing I use when working with Copics. The key for me is, I do 'not' use a slippery, ultra-smooth cardstock for Copics. I use a "matte" finish c/s for Palette and for Copics. That recipe works for me everytime. No heat-setting, no wait-time ... just stamp image ... close ink pad ... color. I just couldn't make it work with SU smooth white or vanilla. Of course, include those types of things in your own experimentation. In the end, you'll be glad that you did.

And something my former upline used to say to me applies here as well .... "Try it! So what if it's a flub? It's only cardstock!!"

Go forth and experiment!
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Totally! When the markers first came to the US 10 years ago there were NO instructions. For the first two or 3 years I couldn't even figure out why the blender pen was so useful (man, all those years wasted!). But I didn't give up, and I experimented and I listened to what worked or didn't work for other people.

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Thanks everyone for all the great advice and encouragement with the markers.

Marianne, I really look forward to your tips and suggestion's from your blog. It has been a big help and makes me want to go purchase more markers.
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Thanks ladies for all of the very helpful info- I ordered my Memento pads and am eagerly awaiting their arrival. Gonna try them with some new matte cardstock and see what mess I can make.
Once I conquer the ink not bleeding / feathering I will try blending... Yikes!

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Okay, I didn't read all of the posts I was so excited to share this link:

http://ilikemarkers.blogspot.com/

I read her first entry yesterday and let me tell you it made a HUGE difference!
I ended up with what I think is the best Copics coloring I've done. I think the best tip I had with her first entry was to really saturate the paper. I never did that before and it was like painting!! Here's a picture of my first 'real' Copics coloring. I may not have made the best color choices, but I'm going to continue to visit this blog and learn more and more - it's great fun!!

By the way, does anyone know definitively whether Copics is pronounced with a long or a short 'o' sound?? TIA!

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I don't know if you can purchase them at HL - unfortunately we do not have them down here. I did not see them at Michael's though. The least expensive site I found for them was MFT. About $2.00 less than some other sites, plus the others offer the dew drop style a lot and not the full pad.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:51 AM   #76  
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Okay, I didn't read all of the posts I was so excited to share this link:

http://ilikemarkers.blogspot.com/

I read her first entry yesterday and let me tell you it made a HUGE difference!
I ended up with what I think is the best Copics coloring I've done. I think the best tip I had with her first entry was to really saturate the paper. I never did that before and it was like painting!! Here's a picture of my first 'real' Copics coloring. I may not have made the best color choices, but I'm going to continue to visit this blog and learn more and more - it's great fun!!

By the way, does anyone know definitively whether Copics is pronounced with a long or a short 'o' sound?? TIA!

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Copic, like Coh..oh no I need another color to..pick
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Here's a picture of my first 'real' Copics coloring.
I think your coloring looks GREAT!
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Wow alot of great info. I too have been wondering if I should get some. TFS
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Just an FYI... Make sure when you are comparing Copic prices you are comparing apples to apples. There are two main styles SKETCH and CIAO. The Sketch are more expensive than the Ciao. Some companies carry Sketch while others carry Ciao and some carry both. So keep this in mind. I have done the same thing. The best price I have found is at carpediemstore.com they carry both styles plus accesories. HTH!

Phantom your coloring is georgous by the way! With Copics practice definately makes perfect (well maybe not perfect...in my case anyway)
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