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thanks for the info! This thread is amazing. I just love how everyone is so helpful and as excited as I am about these markers...I don't think the postman can bring them fast enough...
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Oh No, please say it isn't so! Really, Copics will bleed on SU Whisper White cardstock?!? I was ready to place my first order for Copics (almost $250) and I know that I will need to buy Memento Ink and that is fine, and my SU markers won't probably get used anymore and that is okay, but now I can't use SU cardstock either? I have about 6 packages stored up. I may be rethinking the Copics.
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Another Copic question? I'm not a that good at watercoloring, will the Copics make it eaiser and look better or are they really for the more advance colorist? I don't really like to color, but I think that if I had the Copics then I would.

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Hey, would anyone be interested in an image swap? Since we all need special ink and paper maybe it would be easier here? I know I would love to have some images so I can practice/use my copics. Anyone else?
Okay so this sounds cool, but I've never done an image swap. What is it? I've done lots of card swaps.

Can someone fill me in? Did anyone set this up yet?
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Oh yea I found two colors that are pretty similar.

Willow and spring Dim green I think.....
The willow seems a bit darker. I'm doing this from memory.... Wish I hadn't bought both.
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Oh No, please say it isn't so! Really, Copics will bleed on SU Whisper White cardstock?!? I was ready to place my first order for Copics (almost $250) and I know that I will need to buy Memento Ink and that is fine, and my SU markers won't probably get used anymore and that is okay, but now I can't use SU cardstock either? I have about 6 packages stored up. I may be rethinking the Copics.
If you give it a little bit of time to dry, it should be fine. SU! is coated (why it's so smooth) so it will require heat setting or some extra time to dry. I actually stamp a bunch of images at a time (not that they need to dry w/ the cs I use and Memento ink). I like having a whole stack of stamped images ready and I go through and pick out which ones I feel like using that day. I don't think your SU! cs will go to waste.
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thanks for all the feedback on paper, ink, and bleeding. i've actually been using the georgia pacific from walmart with adradinok (sp?) and the memento. i am just starting to use copics so i didn't want use my special gina k. yet. but it sounds like i need to. yay! i can't wait to try it. no bleeding would help my coloring tremendously! thanks guys!
As, I mentioned earlier my memento is the go to ink with the georgia pacific with no problem. Try a combination of different inks and different papers until you find what works for you. Everyone has their favorites and for whatever reason what works for one may not work for all.
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I'm ordering copics..............SO excited!!! Thanks so much for all the info here.
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HA.........I feel addicted even though I don't even have them yet!! My DBF was saying what if you tried doing this or that and so I whined and said I really needed the copics because I can follow along with the colors used here, not what he was suggesting. I've showed him some of the artwork and he really liked it. Who knows when I'll really get to do the artwork and Lord knows I spent WAY too much time here researching these today and slacking on school work.

So much fun stuff to do stamping, so little time!
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HA.........I feel addicted even though I don't even have them yet!! My DBF was saying what if you tried doing this or that and so I whined and said I really needed the copics because I can follow along with the colors used here, not what he was suggesting. I've showed him some of the artwork and he really liked it. Who knows when I'll really get to do the artwork and Lord knows I spent WAY too much time here researching these today and slacking on school work.

So much fun stuff to do stamping, so little time!
I have afew words of advice for you.

For first time users, Copics are hard to get used to specially the brush tip, so don't get discouraged if you ruin a few projects in the beginning. Practice, practice, and do some more practice, the more you practice before doing a serious project, the more professional it will look.

Search for tutorials on blending effects, and textures. Those are the heart and soul of Copics.

Ask as many questions as you can, most likely someone either have the same question as you, or they have a good tip to share.

The more important one is, HAVE FUN and ENJOY YOUR COPICS...
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just to inspire the newbies like myself...not to repulse the experts, LOL....

here is another one of my first cards using my new copic babies
http:////www.splitcoaststampers.com/...0&ppuser=45411
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I've been lurking here and now I feel I *must* take the plunge and buy some more Copics with the deals going on...DH even told me to go ahead : ) I am a tad overwhelmed by all the colors and even reading the recommendations has my mind reeling, but I think I'm going to stick with the skin and hair colors, as those are particular difficult to do with other markers. And some very pale other colors, like Frost Blue...
I am chiming in just to say that I have had bleeding with my Memento on GP white, also, and when I mentioned it to the LSS they agreed with me that it bled for them as well...so it seems to be a "maybe" even though everyone seems to swear by it on all the blogs, etc. My only success is with clear EP, and even then if it's a detailed image with shadowy areas, the markers don't work well in those areas. So I'll have to stick to more "open" images I guess!
My coloring looks absolutely NOTHING like the other people on here. Granted, I don't have many colors to be blending with, but I seem to just get it all blended into one overall color instead of getting those nice highlights and shadows. If I leave areas uncolored then it's a stark line between the white and the colored areas. If I use the colorless blender, it bleeds like mad. Here is my example:
http:////www.splitcoaststampers.com/...&ppuser=173333
I didn't have the right shade of blue for the paper, so I blended in some gray and yellow. I only have 2 shades of red, so there's not much variation there, even though I let it dry and went back over parts of it to try and shadow it. This took me FOREVAH to color...
Is it because I am just not an artist, or because I need MORE COLORS??

ETA the sentiment was done with the Copics on the stamp as described by the nice person in this thread (sorry, I forget who it was)...worked like a charm! Thanks loads!
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I think your card is great, also, nottoocreative!

As I read all the copic threads, there are so many of us (me, too!) that are so concerned with shading, highlighting and things like that.

I think we have to stop "beating ourselves up" over this.

Maybe we should just get back to the joy of coloring, like when we were kids.

After all, isn't that part of why we got into stamping? Because we still liked to color?

Just my "thoughts for the day!" LOL!
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'nuther quick question for those with more experience.

I saw a Youtube tutorial (and do you think I can find it again to include here?!?!?) from a gal who isn't a pro, but loves making cards. She recommended for newbie Copic users to get the lightest and darkest marker in each family group (Letter(s) and first number the same) and then putting down the darkest on a clear plastic surface, starting coloring the image by with the lightest marker, then gradually adding in deeper shades by picking up small amounts of the deepest shade and adding that to the image.

What do y'all think of that?
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I think your card is great, also, nottoocreative!

As I read all the copic threads, there are so many of us (me, too!) that are so concerned with shading, highlighting and things like that.

I think we have to stop "beating ourselves up" over this.

Maybe we should just get back to the joy of coloring, like when we were kids.

After all, isn't that part of why we got into stamping? Because we still liked to color?

Just my "thoughts for the day!" LOL!
I think you're right about not getting too worked up about this and keeping it fun, but for me, the whole reason to go to Copics is to getting that whole shading, light/dark thing down. I'm seriously thinking about taking an art class at out local university just for that! (and to think I started this whole hobby to save money on cards!!! LOL!) But you're right, when it stops being fun, it's time to step away and reevaluate.
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'nuther quick question for those with more experience.

I saw a Youtube tutorial (and do you think I can find it again to include here?!?!?) from a gal who isn't a pro, but loves making cards. She recommended for newbie Copic users to get the lightest and darkest marker in each family group (Letter(s) and first number the same) and then putting down the darkest on a clear plastic surface, starting coloring the image by with the lightest marker, then gradually adding in deeper shades by picking up small amounts of the deepest shade and adding that to the image.

What do y'all think of that?
http://www.kiyomikrafts.com/kiyomi/2...opics-101.html

I think you are talking about her. She has some talent!! Personally I haven't had much success with her way but I don't think I have the right colors.
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just to inspire the newbies like myself...not to repulse the experts, LOL....

here is another one of my first cards using my new copic babies
http:////www.splitcoaststampers.com/...0&ppuser=45411
I think this looks terrific!!
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Jeaniebean,
I used the tutorial that you are talking about to make this card. I have more markers than just the darkest and lightest, but I used her technique and it helped with shading. Her blog is great. She always shows the colors that she used. I'm not there yet but it helped me alot. Here's the link: http://www.kiyomikrafts.com/kiyomi/2...opics-101.html
I did what she said with embossing too, and it really helped keep the ink from seeping out of the lines when I used alot of ink.
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I saw her video and I agree. She is very talented. And such a BEAUTIFUL LADY! That picture of her! She is GORGEOUS! What lovely hair she has!
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I wanted to let this thread know that I started another thread called "Copic Color Close-Enoughs". I still can't figure out how to post threads neatly so there is the big long thread //www.splitcoaststampers.com/fo...d.php?t=417716

It is a great place to post look alike colors.
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i think your truck looks great!
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missinkyfingers, check this out as something to keep in mind while picking out colors.
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You guys are too sweet, thanks for the comments on my card...I just thought it didn't have the shading of colors that I've seen on other cards. I worked a LOT with the blender pen to get the faded look, but on the videos people seem to do that so easily, without going over it 5 million times! OK, I'm exaggerating...but only a tad! It really took forever, lots of tweaking, and the result is just decent to me, not "wow." I'd be happy if all that time resulted in "wow" : ) If that makes any sense?
But I have taken the plunge, done lots of research, and I am ordering the following compiled from various lists (in case this helps another newbie!) since DH is in favor : ).
Keep in mind I am trying to do basic hair & skin colors, plus a nice selection of lighter basic colors (with their blending counterparts). I also picked a few that match the in colors that I otherwise have nothing even close to (I didn't get the inks when they were available)...LMK if I you think any of these choices are way off! Maybe it's a tad ambitious...I will probably start with the skin & hair ones!
E00, E02, E04 (skins)
E11 (skin)
E25, E27 (dark skin)
E31, E33, E35 (fur, hair)
R02 (Guava)
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BG10 (sky)
BG72 (Bayou)
YG03, YG93, YG95, YG97 (greens for foliage, etc)
Y21 (saffron, hair) -- and I have Prismacolors in Cream and Eggshell if I want shading
RV10, RV13 (pinks)
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C9, W9 (instead of black) -- I already have some Prismacolor grays (cool 30%, 40%; warm 20%, 40%)
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What do you think? Will the C9 and W9 work for black, considering I already have some lighter grays? I am not sure how the Prisma percentages compare to the Copic levels, but they are fairly light.
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I used the tutorial that you are talking about to make this card. I have more markers than just the darkest and lightest, but I used her technique and it helped with shading. Her blog is great. She always shows the colors that she used. I'm not there yet but it helped me alot. Here's the link: http://www.kiyomikrafts.com/kiyomi/2...opics-101.html
I did what she said with embossing too, and it really helped keep the ink from seeping out of the lines when I used alot of ink.
Yes, thank you! That's it!
But now I am totally thrown off again, as my list does not always contain the lightest and darkest in the family...hmmm

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Will the C9 and W9 work for black, considering I already have some lighter grays?
Personally, I have N0, N3, and N6 and use them to blend out for black objects, like a witches' cauldron or the dark parts of a penguin. I would have a lot of trouble working with a 9. What grays do you have?

I also like your truck!!! It looks great!! But for what it's worth in terms of the time it took to get that pretty image, I struggled with bleeding when I started (and still have occassional issues). My solution was realizing I was working with markers that were too dark which caused me to keep coloring and coloring to get it moved around how I wanted. Maybe that is part of the situation for you?

If you see problems, stop, let it dry, and then push the bleeding part back in assertively with your colorless blender, then let it dry again and go over the whole thing with a pale marker to blend it, or add a pale gray to deepen the image as desired w/o having to add in a lot more color. But try coloring with a really light color and then doing tip to tip with a darker one and blending that in if you have a lot of deep markers. You can then move a little color out of the pale area with your blender for a highlight. I ended up getting quite a few pale markers (000, 00, 01), and it has made my life a lot easier. I rarely purchase anything past a 5.

I use memento and PTI, btw. Happy coloring! I am by no means an expert, but avoiding dark colors has really helped me.

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I couldn't find Copic at Michaels OR at AC Moore...do I HAVE to buy them online???
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But now I am totally thrown off again, as my list does not always contain the lightest and darkest in the family...hmmm

help!
My colors weren't the darkest and the lightest either! I just used a lighter color to pick up a darker color. I still need to get a few more colors but I'm not getting the lightest and darkest of each family. Every time I think I have enough, I find a few more that I "need"!
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I couldn't find Copic at Michaels OR at AC Moore...do I HAVE to buy them online???
Hobby Lobby carries them and Blick Art supplies. I don't know if you have either of these stores by you.

Blick carries all of them. Hobby Lobby only carries maybe 70 colors
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Nope...I don't have either...boohoo...sigh...thanks tho! :P
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I couldn't find Copic at Michaels OR at AC Moore...do I HAVE to buy them online???
Michaels don't carry copics, I'm not sure about AC Moore. Right now your best bet is to get them online, and find really god deals, as there is some kind of price adjustments going on with two major sellers...

Google for Carpe Diem, and Oozak for the cheapest prices around.
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Personally, I have N0, N3, and N6 and use them to blend out for black objects, like a witches' cauldron or the dark parts of a penguin. I would have a lot of trouble working with a 9. What grays do you have?

I also like your truck!!! It looks great!! But for what it's worth in terms of the time it took to get that pretty image, I struggled with bleeding when I started (and still have occassional issues). My solution was realizing I was working with markers that were too dark which caused me to keep coloring and coloring to get it moved around how I wanted. Maybe that is part of the situation for you?

If you see problems, stop, let it dry, and then push the bleeding part back in assertively with your colorless blender, then let it dry again and go over the whole thing with a pale marker to blend it, or add a pale gray to deepen the image as desired w/o having to add in a lot more color. But try coloring with a really light color and then doing tip to tip with a darker one and blending that in if you have a lot of deep markers. You can then move a little color out of the pale area with your blender for a highlight. I ended up getting quite a few pale markers (000, 00, 01), and it has made my life a lot easier. I rarely purchase anything past a 5.

I use memento and PTI, btw. Happy coloring! I am by no means an expert, but avoiding dark colors has really helped me.

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Thank you, I think that's my problem (colors are too dark to begin with)...at least, I hope!
I have some Prismacolor grays, not Copics, so I'm not sure how they compare. The darkest gray I have is a Bic (close to Basic Gray) and it's not black at all...so that's why I was looking at the darker grays, but I don't know how they look in person so it's hard to compare. Do you have any examples with the N's?
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Michaels don't carry copics, I'm not sure about AC Moore. Right now your best bet is to get them online, and find really god deals, as there is some kind of price adjustments going on with two major sellers...

Google for Carpe Diem, and Oozak for the cheapest prices around.

I don't think we will EVER see copics at Michaels and A.C. Moore!

LOL! They are still selling the same stamps they were selling years ago! How could we possibly "dream" ( and that is what it would be!) that they could get with the program and actually sell something that is currently popular, like copics!

No wonder they are having financial problems! The people who decide what to order for the stores are waaaaay out of the loop!

An excellent online source is:www.oozak.com
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I don't think we will EVER see copics at Michaels and A.C. Moore!

LOL! They are still selling the same stamps they were selling years ago! How could we possibly "dream" ( and that is what it would be!) that they could get with the program and actually sell something that is currently popular, like copics!

No wonder they are having financial problems! The people who decide what to order for the stores are waaaaay out of the loop!

An excellent online source is:www.oozak.com
I totally agree about the whole M's thing. Ours here (about a half hour away from me) is really bad. They never have half the stuff that is popular in the U.S (available at M's). It's quite frusterating actually, but I just don't bother going in anymore. The good news is there is a new scrapbook store close to me now and she is very good about bringing in popular "new" stuff and if she doesn't carry something that you specifically want, she will special order in for you. Unfortunately, nothing available around here for Copics BUT, there is a store in Vancouver that carries them (close to my parents house too...bonus!) that does sell them... not a large selection I don't think, but some none-the-less. I still think ordering online will be the cheapest for me.
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I have afew words of advice for you.

For first time users, Copics are hard to get used to specially the brush tip, so don't get discouraged if you ruin a few projects in the beginning. Practice, practice, and do some more practice, the more you practice before doing a serious project, the more professional it will look.

Search for tutorials on blending effects, and textures. Those are the heart and soul of Copics.

Ask as many questions as you can, most likely someone either have the same question as you, or they have a good tip to share.

The more important one is, HAVE FUN and ENJOY YOUR COPICS...
Thank you so much for those tips. I was planning to practice alot but as you can image, I want to create those works of art like the others IMMEDIATELY. That's where I'm likely to get discouraged but I will come here for encouragement to keep on keeping......well that and the dough I spend on them!

I've yet to watch some tutorials on Youtube yet, been trying to figure colors out first. I've been to ilikemarkers site a lot, so much info there, how awesome of her to share.

My biggest thing is I've been looking at more clear stamps as they're cheaper and so many of SCS use them and well, I ventured onto a couple sites and realized what I was missing out on sticking to only SU. Many of the clear images though seem to be more that need coloring, hence feeling the need for copics even more!
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just to inspire the newbies like myself...not to repulse the experts, LOL....

here is another one of my first cards using my new copic babies
http:////www.splitcoaststampers.com/...0&ppuser=45411
I think it looks GREAT!! I hope mine turn out that good! How many did you get to start?
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I've been lurking here and now I feel I *must* take the plunge and buy some more Copics with the deals going on...DH even told me to go ahead : ) I am a tad overwhelmed by all the colors and even reading the recommendations has my mind reeling, but I think I'm going to stick with the skin and hair colors, as those are particular difficult to do with other markers. And some very pale other colors, like Frost Blue...
I am chiming in just to say that I have had bleeding with my Memento on GP white, also, and when I mentioned it to the LSS they agreed with me that it bled for them as well...so it seems to be a "maybe" even though everyone seems to swear by it on all the blogs, etc. My only success is with clear EP, and even then if it's a detailed image with shadowy areas, the markers don't work well in those areas. So I'll have to stick to more "open" images I guess!
My coloring looks absolutely NOTHING like the other people on here. Granted, I don't have many colors to be blending with, but I seem to just get it all blended into one overall color instead of getting those nice highlights and shadows. If I leave areas uncolored then it's a stark line between the white and the colored areas. If I use the colorless blender, it bleeds like mad. Here is my example:
http:////www.splitcoaststampers.com/...&ppuser=173333
I didn't have the right shade of blue for the paper, so I blended in some gray and yellow. I only have 2 shades of red, so there's not much variation there, even though I let it dry and went back over parts of it to try and shadow it. This took me FOREVAH to color...
Is it because I am just not an artist, or because I need MORE COLORS??

ETA the sentiment was done with the Copics on the stamp as described by the nice person in this thread (sorry, I forget who it was)...worked like a charm! Thanks loads!

I think it looks good too. I understand why you are saying what you are though as I've the impression that copics will make my colored images look more professionally colored with highlights/shadows, etc. but I think the thing to remember is that it doesn't always HAVE to be that way and that is why your image still looks good. I didn't see stark lines, or anything that looked bad in it, I think you just didn't get the effects you were looking or hoping for but certainly not a bad job at all. IMHO.
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'nuther quick question for those with more experience.

I saw a Youtube tutorial (and do you think I can find it again to include here?!?!?) from a gal who isn't a pro, but loves making cards. She recommended for newbie Copic users to get the lightest and darkest marker in each family group (Letter(s) and first number the same) and then putting down the darkest on a clear plastic surface, starting coloring the image by with the lightest marker, then gradually adding in deeper shades by picking up small amounts of the deepest shade and adding that to the image.

What do y'all think of that?
I read/saw about this and it looked like a lot of work to me and way difficult. Or maybe I'm afraid of what colors I'd end up with, ruining my lighter color, etc. But I'm still learning about these so maybe it's no big deal.......
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