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Old 01-21-2005, 05:46 PM   #1  
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Default tiles, to bake or not to bake? Stayzon- not staying on.

Ok, took plung today and bought tiles, stamped with stayzon-did not bake, did not spray with krylon.
When chalking, I rubbed stayzon off (had been a few hours)
SO- do I bake after stayzon before chalks...
or do I spray with krylon after stayzon, then chalk and more krylon.
Do I bake at any point??
I did alot of searches, Britta, (lol) but I still am fuzzy about this, and then was rubbin' stayzon off, so need some help.
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Old 01-21-2005, 05:54 PM   #2  
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I bake mine after stamping with the Staz-On for 30 min at 350. Then I color with sharpies and the bake again. I haven't had a problem with mine after that.

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Your tiles aren't glazed are they?

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They are the tumbled Rialto tiles, I read about earlier, I don't think they are glazed. Stayzon only rubbed off on one, wonder what I could have done.
Guess I will try stayzon, baking, then chalk then krylon

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I think I figured out my problem.
The first one I did didn't rub off. The second, I messed up and wiped with fingernail polish remover, rinsed dry. Tried again, thats the one that rubbed off, maybe there was a residue from the polish remover.
Maybe I should have wiped with soapy cloth then rinsed.

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Someone else had some major problems with the Rialto tiles and the images rubbing off...so it might be that type of tumbled tile.

I always heat set the staz-on with my embossing gun so it becomes nice and hot before I color in - the only thing I have used is Sharpies - after coloring in I just bake them for about 10 minutes or so on about a 300 or so degree oven
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If you can rub stazon off at all, then the tile is glazed in someway. When I stamp Stazon on the Bottechino Tumbled tiles. It dries quickly within a minute or two and stays there without baking or sealing. Sharpies should stay in place as well. If you are using blender pens with chalks, those need to be sealed with a Krylon sealer or equivalent. Stazon can be removed from non-porous surfaces with rubbing alcohol. The alcohol can lighten the ink a tiny bit once on the tile, but not completely remove it.

Glazed tiles have no "tooth" to grip the ink. So for decorative tiles/fridge magnets that will not get washed with soap and water, you bake the stazon in the microwave for 30 seconds or a conventional oven to help get the ink to dry and stick, so that if you coloring in with sharpies it won't reinvigorate/bleed as easily. Sharpies and Stazon are similar ink recipes and reactivate eachother.

All tiles used to have to be baked before stazon came onto the market. Pigment ink was used and heat was necessary to set it quickly so you could move onto the next step.

Your polish remover definitely played into the equation because it has alcohol in it which would react with stazon.

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I bake mine after stamping with the Staz-On for 30 min at 350. Then I color with sharpies and the bake again. I haven't had a problem with mine after that.

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Staz-On is solvent ink & is not meant for baking. You're actually releasing toxins contained in the ink when you heat it & then breathing that in. If you are baking in your oven, you are releasing toxins into an area that you cook your food in!

Try stamping your image with Staz-On, letting the ink cure for a few hours, before you color in. This is all I've ever done and I've never had a problem, but I only use the Bottechino (sp?) tiles.
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I will be shopping for bont...(what ever tiles)
I am also having a hard time stamping a clear image, but I have R.A. so my hands arent as strong or stable as they used to be.
I think the stamp a ma jig may help, so I will need to get one of those too.

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I used sharpies to color mine in... had no problems... no baking - but yeah - if you used shoe polish remover then I would definitely say that was your problem...

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the 1st time our Demo showed us the tumbled tiles she had us spray window cleaner on them and wipe off to remove the chalky residue. I have found once I do that it is best to let the tile completely dry before stamping the stayzon...on
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Default Clorox gel

I let some Clorox gel sit on some mistakes made on tumble tiles. It bleached the staz-on image right off. I rinsed them very well and let air dry. They seem do be doing fine with their new image.
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