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Old 03-27-2009, 09:39 AM   #1  
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Default Is there a single thing you NEED right now

to make a card or other item?

I'm not talking want, I mean NEED?

I can't think of a thing!
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How about TIME?
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Me neither Joan! I'd LIKE a whole bunch of things. But need- I think I'm set.
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I NEED adhesive! I am running low and with DH laid off, that is an expense I am having trouble justifying. Fortunately, I am scraping change together and using a 40% off coupon at Hobby Lobby tomorrow, so I will have enough to last me another few days.

Of course, I could sell off a ton of SU! sets that never see ink and have plenty of money, but I have such a hard time letting them go!
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I agree, more Time.
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The talent; though I could do with some confidence and self belief....
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i need dimensionals
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I need the new Fiskars PLAIN scallop border punch.

Thin, not chunky, circular foam mounting dots.

Better punch storage.

A white ink that performs well on printed card stock, as opposed to dyed card stock.

More coffee.

And, world peace. ;)
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Money, to buy more stuff I don't need................................:mrgreen:
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Mojo & Monday. My mojo has been completely dead for about a week now. I've been doing my DD's school yearbook by myself and it's due today. Luckily, I was able to get an extension until Monday which is when it'll get turned in.

So, I need Monday to be here so I'll be done with the darn yearbook and get my stampin' mojo back.
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well, talent, time, money and mojo (and world peace) go without saying!!!

about the thin dimensionals -- only ones I've ever seen are SU's. Love em.....
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I started my Easter cards and I had 3 sheets of DP that I thought would be enough but I ran out. Now I NEED to go find a different paper that matches the cards that I started making.

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I need adhesive. The other stuff is just a want and right now, wants aren't on my list.
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I really could use some brads and embelishments.

Got to wait for another coupon for Michaels.
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Cardstock, dimensionals, and time!
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top one time for sure
2nd. that I really want, is the new sets from pink cat studio ;) (I was asked if I can do some baby's firsth bday invities and so want those)
cant wait for paycheck lol
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I need the finishing touches on my basement to be completed and then someone to take my kids away for a few hours, LOL...

...oh, and world peace!
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I am dangerously low on ATG tape (especially since we're heading into craft show season). And I thought I needed the Mazel Tov set from PTI (I'm doing a show at a private Jewish academy), but I don't think it has the images and sentiments I'm really wanting. So I guess the only thing I really need right now is adhesive.

ETA: I need my business accountant to offer to finish my taxes at no charge.
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I NEED a good paper cutter before I go nuts. lol I use an acrylic square and rotary cutter...........my square always slips and I end up with angled paper and have to start over.

Of course the givens as well...........talent, time, money and world peace. *grin*
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TIME!!!! I was so happy when they started the CAS challenge, I thought great something I could probably do since CAS can be done in a short time once you come up with the design. How many have I managed to do - ZERO! I would kill for a whole day of uninterrupted stamping time.
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Sad to say nothing at all. And my "wants" are actualy dying off too and it feels great!

I could probably go a year without even buying adhesive and cardstock and have enough stuff to make cards the whole year.

Now time I could definitely use...or to win the lottery so I dont have to work during the day and I could stay at home with my doggies and stamp all day :mrgreen:
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right now?
adhesive for sure.
not much more that i NEED...wantis a different story
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I actually need new scissors, since mine literally broke in half the other night.

Other than that I would love some quite time to myself and more confidence to actually finish and post something. I just spent a lot of money on PTI and SU and have yet to ink any of them.
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Right Now I need like the above post Time.

What I am doing is going threw my stuff and what I haven't used in a while and putting it in a tote to sell later in the year at a rummage.
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I could use a little more space..... the small desk in the bedroom is just not very functional....
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I need a new paper trimmer, but I will wait.
I need more time and definitely a stamp room on the main house level. I hate having my stuff in the basement so I have it all crammed in the bedroom for now.
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I need to figure out the last part of the spur for my nephew's cowboy boot. It is SO near completion!
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need... need... need... nope. don't know that word..
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want... always a list!
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Otherwise, I'm set.
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I'm waiting for some medication in the mail and I NEED it.

But other than that no, nothing.
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Mojo & Monday. My mojo has been completely dead for about a week now. I've been doing my DD's school yearbook by myself and it's due today. Luckily, I was able to get an extension until Monday which is when it'll get turned in.

So, I need Monday to be here so I'll be done with the darn yearbook and get my stampin' mojo back.

Hang in there, darlin'! *hug*
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Colorless Blender refill from Ellen (it's coming, just taking forever to get here!!)...it's hard to teach a class about the Colorless Blender with a dry pen! LOL
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I need both of these things. And I need ribbon. I'm running low.
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Not a thing, I think I have enough 'stuff' to work with for months and still have not miss any of it. I would 'like' some more copics, but that's another story.

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Somewhere to stamp. I sacrificed my stamp room for a dining room. So, I have NOWHERE to store my stuff, or stamp for that matter. Hoping to solve that this weekend.
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Need? Nothing really. Would like a cleaner house, a bigger stamp space and did I mention a cleaner house?

Oh! I just thought of something I really do need. Spring! It's still winter in ND and I'm kind of tired of blizzards, floods and icy roads.

It's kind of nice to realize that most of us have what we really need.

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