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Old 04-05-2016, 04:10 PM   #1
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I know, a lot of you don't bother - but I really want my unmounted stamps to have the image on them. ESPECIALLY with sentiments but also with images. I have not been able to find very much information on how to do this. I have no problem when there is a sticker, but sometimes there isn't one.

SOOOOOOO this is my idea, and I would love to have some feedback before I order some stuff that may or may not work as I want it to.

I am planning on getting some clear vinyl sticker sheets, and either stamp on them with StazOn OR stamp on them with dye ink, and layering them - so there would be the one with the image stamped on it, covered by one that has nothing on it. Then I would put Tack It Over and Over or Mono glue on the side with the image.

Am I nuts? And, if I decide to try this, how can I be sure I am getting vinyl that is thick enough and also safe enough? I would be wanting to use the same technique with foam stamps as unmounted rubber.

Anyone else got a better idea?
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That sounds like a good idea. What I do for sentiments is write the words on the back of the stamp with a ball-point pen. None of it has rubbed off yet, and it shows through the Tack It O & O.
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I seem to remember seeing something some time ago about stamping the image on tissue, then gluing it to the back of the stamp, then putting TIOO over the tissue. It would be cost-effective, I'm thinking, and safe...
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I stamp the image on vinyl with Staz-On, and attach the vinyl to the stamp with a couple swipes of my ATG gun. Then I use it with either an acrylic block that has vinyl on it, or my MISTI that has vinyl on the inside of the lid. The vinyl clings to the vinyl great. No fancy vinyl, some I bought on Amazon and some I bought from WalMart. Both work great. I read that tip somewhere here on SCS.
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pam, was that called cling vinyl?
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Yes. And the vinyl at WalMart is in the fabric section. Don't get the thickest one, since it seems like it doesn't work nearly as well. I get the in-between thickness at WalMart. I'll look to find the one I bought on Amazon. It wasn't the cheapest, but it was convenient having it cut in the size it was. (A lot pricier than the vinyl at WalMart.)

Amazon.com: (12 Pack) Clear Static Cling Vinyl Window Film, Transparent Plastic Sheets, Size 9" x 12"
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I use Easy Mount Cling Foam. Here's how I do it.
  1. Remove rubber from wood stamp, and clean it up by removing any excess edges if needed.
  2. Remove cling backing from Easy Mount Cling Foam.
  3. Place rubber stamp on cling side of easy mount, stamp etched side down.
  4. Trace around the stamp edges, creating an outline on the cling
  5. Use Stazon Ink to stamp the image within the outline on the cling side.
  6. Use a hot knife or scissors to cut the stamped outlined image out, following the outline with your hot knife or scissors.
  7. Finally attach your stamped cling to the non etched side of your stamp, placing it as centered as possible.
You can clean up the edges if needed by using your scissors, or better your hot knife. Believe it or not it's actually a pretty quick process. Hope this helps.
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Anne - your method is one that I'd seen before for cling foam and thought was completely brilliant, so I totally vote for that method if using the EZ Mount. I thought that the OP was asking about bare rubber, so it would be a bit different. Having said that, I still think that tracing the outline on whatever-it-is that is going on the back of the stamp is a great tip to ensure that the image is properly registered with the stamp itself - thanks for bringing that up!
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Thanks everyone for your input.....
I am going to use the tracing method as described by Anne - Sue, I got a laminator and am sort of storing my stamps in a system that is fairly similar to yours.....
I HAVE some vinyl that I have used to put on my acrylic blocks - it would be great if the vinyl would stick to the laminated pages and the vinyl would stick to the vinyl-covered blocks. Will find out!
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Where is the best place to get EZmount? Do you use the thinner one or thicker and why? Just starting this process and wondering what the pros have done
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I don't use it at all. I find no need for it other than it would make all of my stamps more of a consistent thickness. I'm fine with bare rubber
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I'm with you, Cathy! EZ Mount is expensive (in my opinion) and takes up more real estate for no real benefit (in my opinion) than bare rubber. The biggest drawback for me has been finding a glue that works well as a "cling" agent without leaving residue. I had one for years (Sailor), but they don't make it in the chisel marker any more - just the ballpoint - and it's NOT the same! I've tried others, thought I'd scored with Zig, but it's hit-and-miss. I used an AdTech permanent tape runner in desperation one night, and so far it's working beautifully! I think I'm gonna do that from now on - no wait time for the glue to dry, sticks to laminated cardstock and my MISTI really well, and leaves no residue on either - SCORE!
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Really? I'm going to try that - AdTech is very affordable and I am even wondering if it will allow me to use regular dye ink for my images instead of having to use Stazon. That would be awesome. Off to try......
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Sue, Can you link to the one you use? I think I will try this first rather than invest in EZ mount. The AdTech allows it to cling to your laminated sheet and a block? Do you stamp on a cushion pad? or do you put something on the bare rubber and then to a block before you stamp.
I have too many stamps to mount so if this works - this is what I prefer to do.
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I wish I knew of an easy way to get EZ mount off my stamps. Bare rubber is so much easier! I haven't tackled the chore of moving the stamps in my three ring binders into Avery Elle or another manufacturer's pockets but I'll have to soon. They are too close to a heating duct and a window. The EZ mount is shrinking so it's only a matter of time before my lovely rubber starts to disintegrate! And the EZ mount is super sticky, gooey, messy!
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I read a tip on another thread to put stamps in the freezer to get the rubber off cleanly. That's what I've been doing lately, and it works really well! I suppose it's something along the lines of the glue freezing into a solid so it's not a gummy, gooey mess. They don't need to be in there more than a minute or two, either.

Here's what I've been using on the back of the bare rubber: Amazon.com - Permanent Glue Runner 4/Pkg-.31"X315" - General Purpose Glues So far, no issues whatsoever...
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I tried the AdTech on one of my stamps - but it didn't work. I stuck it to a laminated sheet and when I removed it, it left a lot of glue dots on my panel. Maybe I misunderstood -- or used too much?!?!?
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I tried the AdTech on one of my stamps - but it didn't work. I stuck it to a laminated sheet and when I removed it, it left a lot of glue dots on my panel. Maybe I misunderstood -- or used too much?!?!?
I'm not using a dotty one - it's just the regular permanent one. Which one were you using? I don't have a trace of residue on anything...
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I'll have to get some of the regular type - all I have is dot. Thanks
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Really? I'm going to try that - AdTech is very affordable and I am even wondering if it will allow me to use regular dye ink for my images instead of having to use Stazon. That would be awesome. Off to try......
I wondered about this comment the first time I read it, but got sidetracked with the glue issue: what is the issue, exactly, that makes you have to use StazOn rather than dye ink? I can't think of a scenario, so I'm completely mystified. Clarification, please?
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Well, when I was using wet adhesives, like Tack It Over and Over or Mono, it would smear the ink I had used to stamp the image with -

Last night I was trying different things - and I accidentally did some with EXTREME - I am off for the day right now but will see if I can pry those off the laminated sheets when I get home!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, when I was using wet adhesives, like Tack It Over and Over or Mono, it would smear the ink I had used to stamp the image with -

Last night I was trying different things - and I accidentally did some with EXTREME - I am off for the day right now but will see if I can pry those off the laminated sheets when I get home!!!!!!!!!!!
Were you using the stamps while the TIOO or Mono were still wet? The idea is to let them dry (like overnight) so they're tacky enough to stick to the block or MISTI or whatever, and you only have to do it once, rather than every time you use the stamp...
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No. I let them dry. The problem is if you apply wet adhesive to a stamped image, you need to be sure that the stamped image was done using ink that will not smear when you get it wet. That's why I had used Staz On.

By the way, the EXTREME runner didn't work (I didn't think it would - I thought I was using a DUCK runner (which now I know doesn't work either!!) Maybe I need a lighter touch
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I still don't think I understand the issue with the ink - I use dye ink with all of the stamps that have 2-way glue on the back without any issue. Do you mean when you use a wet glue to adhere the stamped image to the card? I'm so confused (sorry)...
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Sue, if I understand Cathy correctly, she wants an image of what the stamp is on the BACK of the rubber. I think she's stamping in stazon on cling vinyl and attaching that to the rubber? Then she needs something that helps it stick to the block?

I assume the cling vinyl isn't working for you like it's supposed to...it should just stick to the block. Or if it doesn't then it should stick to another piece of cling vinyl that is stuck to the block.

Cathy, is that right? It's the only way I can figure it out...
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Yes, Diane you've got it. Now, I have recently come to realize, that it might be ok for me to stamp on the vinyl with an ink like Versafine - wait for it to completely dry - then adhere it to the back of a rubber unmounted stamp. So now I have the image on the back of my stamp. BUT I want it to stick to my laminated sheets when I'm not stamping with it, but cling to my acrylic blocks when I AM stamping with it. What is the best adhesive----- sounds like Sue uses Adtech - not the dotty kind (Of which I don't have any of .... yet... but it's on my list) Sorry to be so confusing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, NOW I get it! You meant ink to stamp on the back of the stamp, not to actually use the stamp with. Sheesh - how dense could I be? Thank you, Diane, for pulling me out of my fog...

Another option would be Ranger Archival Black. I've used it lots of places where others might use StazOn (including tile and vinyl), 'cuz I absolutely, positively, adamantly and in all other ways refuse to use that evil (StazOn) concoction! Nasty, nasty stuff (in my opinion)...
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Sorry I wasn't clear! I pretty much agree with you 'bout the Stazon. It sure stinks. I will try anything to avoid it!
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Speaking of indexing the back of the stamp . . . I read somewhere and can't find it now where someone used Silhouette vinyl or Circuit vinyl in white to go on back of stamps that had red or black rubber. I don't know anything about Silhouette or Circuit vinyl. Do any of you recall which it was? I would prefer using that because there isn't enough contrast on those with the tissue method.

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Yes, Diane you've got it. Now, I have recently come to realize, that it might be ok for me to stamp on the vinyl with an ink like Versafine - wait for it to completely dry - then adhere it to the back of a rubber unmounted stamp. So now I have the image on the back of my stamp. BUT I want it to stick to my laminated sheets when I'm not stamping with it, but cling to my acrylic blocks when I AM stamping with it. What is the best adhesive----- sounds like Sue uses Adtech - not the dotty kind (Of which I don't have any of .... yet... but it's on my list) Sorry to be so confusing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cathy, I believe I am doing the same as you and the vinyl doesn't stick to the laminated sheets. So did you decide to use the Adtech for your adhesive to the laminated sheets?
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Yes. So far the Adtech seems to work fine.
I got sidetracked for awhile and haven't been doing any organizing. It is SUCH a big job!
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It is slow going for me also. It is easy to get overwhelmed. Thanks for your reply.
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Anne - I am curious about what brand of hot knife you have. I bought a Walnut Hollow hot knife and was hoping it would smooth out the edges on the rubber, but that's not working or I'm not doing it correctly. Do you use it just for the EZ Mount or the edges of the rubber stamp also?
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The hot knife is just for the foam. You'll need to trim the rubber with scissors to where you want it, then use the knife to cut the foam. Just be sure to cut straight and not taper the foam back underneath the rubber.
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Thank you Diane. There goes my OCD avatar that wants the rubber smooth like the Stampin Up stamps. I have some older ones before they came out with the pre-cut ones. Oh well . . . it will be o.k.
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Speaking of indexing the back of the stamp . . . I read somewhere and can't find it now where someone used Silhouette vinyl or Circuit vinyl in white to go on back of stamps that had red or black rubber. I don't know anything about Silhouette or Circuit vinyl. Do any of you recall which it was? I would prefer using that because there isn't enough contrast on those with the tissue method.
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No, but I bought the white Circuit vinyl and it worked.
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So did you stamp on the White Cricket vinyl and then adhere it to your stamp?

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