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Old 10-30-2005, 01:05 PM   #1  
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I feel like I never have an original idea. I get and view several stamping and scrapbooking magazines each month and their layouts and ideas are fabulous and so original. I feel like I never have an original idea...I only steal ideas from others. Can I be the only one that does this??? Is this wrong???
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It's not wrong. That's why the books and magazines are out there. They want you to use their ideas, then come back and buy again the next month. When you get comfortable doing this you'll be creating your own designs.
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We would prefer that you call it CASEing. It means "Copy And Steal Everything". Means the same thing, but sounds so much nicer! And that's what the magazines are there for.
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I think that is how most of us get started.......then it just gets easier to come up w/our own ideas. Me......I'm still CASE'g but tweeking things. Don't fret!!
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Hello! don't you think those people designing things for magazines have to get inspiration from somewhere. Everything that ANYONE creates is just taking inspiration from somewhere else. for example: i use color schemes i find on neat t-shirts and marketing i receive in the mail. when i use a "stolen" color combo it's the same as stealing a layout/accent design from a scrapbook magazine. i've just made it my own! hth
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If you looked close enough and asked everyone (and got an honest answer), I think that you would find VERY VERY few people who are able to honestly say, this WHOLE project is my orig. idea, I didn't have ANY inspiration from anything else!!
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We would prefer that you call it CASEing. It means "Copy And Steal Everything". Means the same thing, but sounds so much nicer! And that's what the magazines are there for.
I prefer Copy And Selectively Edit...
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The more replies that I read, the better I feel. I don't feel so alone out there in the world of CASEing (or whatever you want to call it). I love the way we call CASEing "inspiration"...lol. It's true, that seeing small details in other's work does inspire me to try different embellishments and techniques. All I can say is THANK YOU to those who are willig to share their creativity with us.
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I thought copying a layout was "scraplifting"........LOL ! At any rate, I am thankful for the gallery and magazines to see beautiful layouts so I can alter them to my style. I am hoping that as I scrapbook more and more that I will eventually feel more at ease experimenting with color, design and so forth. Ladies that get published and praised for original layouts get my attention and respect!
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And here I thought we were supposed to CASE!!! tee hee!
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I prefer Copy And Selectively Edit...
AMEN! As when I case, I still change some things, then it really is my own. :}
Of course I have no issue with it. It is the finest form of flattery to have people ooh and ahh over your cards & scrap books then replay those pics in their minds at home at their kitchen table when they get their own toys out to play at night...........it's casing for the best reason...besides...they say 'God helps those who help themselves'... help yourself to any idea or layout you see. :}
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I must admit...I too steal everyone else's ideas. So, no, you are not alone.....However, if I do ever come up with an original....I hope other's will like it enough to copy it just like I have copied thiers.
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Originality is a myth. The more you know about the creative process, the more you realize that all great art is "inspired" by something else. Take Shakespeare for example. All of his stories were lifted from other common literary works of his time.

Don't worry about it. As you get more experienced, you will find yourself modifying what you CASE more and more. And in the end, your family and friends will not look at your carefully and lovingly created scrapbooks and think, "Gosh, can't she do anything original?" They have no idea. And you will love your books more for having copied things that you saw and loved.

CASEing is the sincerest form of flattery and also the way we learn our craft. Only in the 20th century have we become so hung up on originality.
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I agree that many items are inspired... but I have to say that I disagree with the statement that there is nothing new under the sun or the people who create for publications are not original in their creations. That is selling the entire creative process short. I know many designers that are very original and create trendsetting projects.
It's great to be inspired, its wonderful to CASE with credit... but there ARE original artists and concepts out there.

Originality is a not myth and the more you stamp, the more you will take chances in your creations.... this chance taking and willing to make mistakes is where many of my original creations come from.

Inspiration for something does not equal lack of originality
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Good post, Lisa Lisa. I respectfully honor everyone's opinion, but I agree with her opinion that originality still exists. I know the old proverb says, "There's nothing new under the sun" but everyone is unique -even fingerprints, eyes, etc... show our individuality. Our minds are limitless in creativity that can result in MUCH originality. Your originality may not be in stamping, but I feel everyone has alot of originality to offer in some area of life.

But hey - even the best stampers CASE! Just read some of the Dirty Dozen's postings in the gallery. Even they know a good thing when they see it and CASE just like us lowly ones.

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I have to agree with Lisa. There are times I see a layout but it not *me* but it may inspire something totally new in my head.
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I don't really know *what* I think about the idea of originality...does it exist or not? Are there "degrees" or more or less originality? What if originality is only in the application but not the interpretation? I guess to me, it's like saying that a good deed is "Purely Altruistic." Can there really be such a thing when there is always some sort of payoff, even if it is "only" emotional satisfaction?

What I *DO* know is this: One of the things that I love the most about scrapbooking (as opposed to cardmaking) is that CASEing and plagiarising are not only tolerated, they're actually *ENCOURAGED*!!! We create, we share, we show off...we hope that somewhere along the line, we'll inspire others. Or at the very least, that we'll feel validated when someone compliments an idea we have as "original" when we feel creatively bankrupt. So often, we're so happy to have a series of photos "behind" us that who really cares if the idea is original or not? It's being done in a satisfying layout...now *that* to me represents freedom.

I say: go on--CASE away!! Let's face it: you've still got an original photograph and original journaling no matter where your inspiration comes from!! ~ K
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plagiarising is NOT acceptable within any publishing. Period.

Case-ing something for personal use is what the publications are there for.... but there are a ton of original ideas.

Case and point... I have a fruit cup can that is in Paper creafts this month. the concept of a fruit cup is not new, just as a concept of a card isn't. KWIM. But the concept of what I did with it and designed for it IS original. and I made it back in May for them. MAY!

there are original designs, if there weren't then there wouldn't be a market for idea books and magazines. and.... they work on their issues and copies anywhere from 6-12 months ahead of time. Knowing that may help you realize how original these concepts really are!

So Lynn.... Case away! Thats what those magazines are there for. thats why we as designers write up those very specific instructions.... so that you can CASE it! Its not bad... and it may spark your own original design!
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So sorry, it seems that I have offended...let me explain.When I go to crops, all of my &quot;idea books&quot; stay at home. Either I'm inspired or not. Other croppers have their books marked, dog-eared, Post-it Noted and what not for the *exact* layouts that they'll be doing. They have their &quot;recipe list&quot; in hand for the items they need to recreate the exact same layout that they've seen in the publication. Are they intending to publish their own work? Highly unlikely. But I would cross what I know is a **VERY** grey line and say that they are, in fact, plagiarising. Why? Because not one of these ladies has ever credited the original artist on the reverse of her page/s. Plagiarising taking someone else's original idea and claiming it as your own. When they copy article-for-article another's layout, that is exactly what they're doing.Do I have a problem with that? Not really. Some people are more creative than others. Every cropper I know absolutely *loves* the hobby...the idea of having ones photos displayed and chronicled, something to pass to future generations. But lots of these gals struggle to come up with an original layout. Others have great layout ideas, but they're color challenged (one I know is even color blind...how she does it just *amazes* me!!) Still others are so consumed with being "caught up" that they just want to copy so they can be finished. (To me, being a "caught up" scrapbooker is an *oxymoronic statement* if I've ever known one...that's like saying "I'm finished with the laundry." As long as we take photos, we're never really caught up!!..but now I'm hijacking my own post....) Do I think that credit should be given? Absolutely. I think when someone CASEs or scraplifts an idea, credit *should* be given to the original artist. I think that is as important as the rest of the hobby...lest future generations mistakenly assume that these gals were more creative than they really were. But, as usual, this is my NSHO. Which I own and feel compelled to share with others at will... ~ Kaylyn
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Question I must have missed it...

but when was publishing brought up? I didn't see any poster say they were going to CASE/scraplift/plagiarize/borrow and then publish. Anywhere...? Now, granted, I'm currently exhausted and stuck at my parent's for a week, so I can easily be hallucinating. LOL

I know she said that borrowing is encouraged in scrapbooking, and it is--But of COURSE, it's NOT okay to steal someone's ideas and go publish them--and she didn't say that it was. Unless I'm missing something.
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I also case ALOT and I have literally stolen cased ideas, I have a friend who has been stamping for many years and is SO creative anywho's I make a card from here and she saw it and she went nuts at how wonderful it was and how I was so creative and YES MY pride got in the way and I didn't tell her that it wasn't my idea. I am ashamed but sadly only a little. She told everyone how GREAT the card was! TEHE!
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It's not cheating daaaahling-- it's borrowing! I take the stand that your borrow ideas-- and just add a little of your own magic! By experimenting with different colors, textures, and patterns, you have created your own unique take on a "classic idea!"
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I have to say I love the "Copy and selective editing" way better than "Copy and steal everything" I wish we could make that the common use.

As for ideas, I try to have original ones, but selective editing works way better than me. I'm a sloppy overdecorator by nature, so CASEing helps me limit the amount of stuff that goes on a page.
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We would prefer that you call it CASEing. It means "Copy And Steal Everything". Means the same thing, but sounds so much nicer! And that's what the magazines are there for.
Actually, in the Quick Start magazine from SU CASE is: Create and SHARE everything. Which is even better.
Also, that is what this whole website is about. If it makes you feel better, I case everything I do. You see something you like that I did, then you see something you like in a card that someone else did, and a layout someone else did and you take those 3 ideas of others, and a different stamp set and different colors and Voila! You have your own creation!
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I case and scraplift a lot. I have no problem with it. It's someone else's color scheme, or sketch, or embellishment, or whatever. I'm not sending my stuff to magazines in hopes to be published. I'm keeping them in albums in my room. I'm mailing cards to my friends (most of whom are not stampers or scrappers). I do not write on the back who I CASEd from or what magazine. My future generations are not going to track down a certain old magazine to see if I stole everything. I'm not stealing photos, journalling, or memories. I think it's fine, and, like someone said, encouraged, in this industry. If I were to post it online or something like that, yes, I would post where I got an idea, if it was copied from someone else.

So all in all, go for it! You definitely aren't the only one!!!

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When I was student teaching, my master teacher gave me this bit of advise:

"Your best ideas are either borrowed or stolen"

LOL. It's so true, it's an idea, and you always change something/subsitute something to make it your own, and then, it's your original idea for others to borrow or steal!
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I feel like I never have an original idea. I get and view several stamping and scrapbooking magazines each month and their layouts and ideas are fabulous and so original. I feel like I never have an original idea...I only steal ideas from others. Can I be the only one that does this??? Is this wrong???
I just received this today on the bottom of a very forwarded email...

If you're feeling uninspired,
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the rest of us just copy."
I think of my photographs as 'unique'... one of a kind 'originals'.. no two ever exactly alike (unless reprints)... but in reality, each one is a creation of/from God.

I once saw a stamp that said:
"I stamp because I can't draw."
Well... I CASE (Copy And Share Everything) because my brain is addlepated when it comes to 'originality'.

No matter how hard one tries, he/she will never be able to copy something exactly as designed by the 'original' artist. So don't worry, go create your very own 'originals'.

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