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Old 01-15-2008, 01:21 PM   #1
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So...if you saw that a stamp company used a word in the wrong context, would you notify them. I personally don't care, I only noticed it because I always used to get nailed for it in high school...it was drilled into my head I guess. Now, whenever I see it I, it sticks out to me.

Like I said, I don't care, but I wonder if anyone else would??? I don't want to seem petty as that is not my intention at all.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:25 PM   #2
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Great question! I would tell them, just because I think it matters. I am in no way A.R., but I do think that the more kids see things that are misspelled on purpose (like Krafty Kids) then it sticks in their heads. Just the same with words used in the wrong context.
(BTW, I hope I don't offend anyone named or affiliated with a Krafty Kids company! I was just using the word Crafty as an example... )
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you talking like a homophone or like using mammal when you really mean cow?

If it's on a stamp, I'd notify them. If it's a misprint in the catalog, no biggie.
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I think I would, because it could cause them to lose a lot of sales ... some people (such as myself) are sticklers for correct use and spelling of words. I would never buy a stamp or a stamp set that had a word used in the wrong context or with a spelling mistake. So, I think I would say something in a very polite and courteous way.
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I would definitely let themknow. I know that when Provo came out with a cuttlebug folder with what i consider a misspelling in it, I didn't purchase it. So, I am sure they would want to know.
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There was a thread recently where someone questioned the use of "Thank-You" on a stamp (with a hyphen). If you are thanking someone, the use of a hyphen is grammatically incorrect. I certainly wouldn't buy that stamp.
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I would tell them. Here is an example that annoys me - Happy St. Patty's Day. St. Patrick was a man not a girl - it should say Happy St. Paddy's Day. I know this because both my parents were born in Ireland. I know this is totally off topic, but I just had to say it. Maybe one of the manufacturers that has this stamp will notice and change it.
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I know last year one of the stamp companies had a grammatical error on one of their stamps, I think they pulled the bad stamp from the set and retooled it, then put it back in (they may even have replaced the "bad" stamp for people who had purchased the set before the error was pointed out to them).
Let them know about the error!
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I would email them and let them know - I'm sure you aren't the only one who has caught it - but you might be.

I proofread in my job nearly every day so I'm a stickler for spelling but I'm not very good at grammar (as you can tell by that sentence).

I was at a craft show over Christmas - a very nice one - Christmas Village and I was really surprised that I saw more than one vendor who has things misspelled on their work.

For example, one wood craft had the word angel spelled angle on several pieces.
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Kind of on the same subject. At one of my stamp camps many years ago, I was using a set with a pansy in it. One of my stampers told me that she would not buy that set for the pansy was anatomically incorrect! I didn't even know how to respond to that one! Every time I took that set out, I would look at the pansy in a totally different way!
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So...if you saw that a stamp company used a word in the wrong context, would you notify them. I personally don't care, I only noticed it because I always used to get nailed for it in high school...it was drilled into my head I guess. Now, whenever I see it I, it sticks out to me.

Like I said, I don't care, but I wonder if anyone else would??? I don't want to seem petty as that is not my intention at all.
BTW what was the word - you don't have to mention manufacturer.
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I say tell them. The Angel Company had a couple things in the new catty that needed to be fixed. They are now fixed.
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I hate it when people spell stationery as stationary; there's obviously a big difference between the two words. I also dislike stamps that say "You and Me," because in most contexts it should be "You and I..." As in, "You and I are such BFF that we make everybody gag when they see us coming." Of course, you could also correctly say "There will be time for you and me to take over the world." Technique Tuesday also has a cute full sheet of acrylic animal stamps with sayings on them, but they've misspelled squeak as squeek. Ick. I won't buy it.

Don't get me started on reading blogs... oy, the grammatical and spelling errors.

As for telling vendors about their errors, I think it depends upon how many errors you find; if you just spot one and everything else seems pretty nice, tell the vendor. If many stamps and/or the whole website are rife with mistakes, I'm not sure I'd waste the time.

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Old 01-15-2008, 02:48 PM   #14
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It REALLY bugs me when people use "your" for you are, when it should be "you're.

I am like Rainman when it comes to identifying spelling errors. I think I missed my calling in life to be a proofreader. It's a bit of a curse to be able to easily pick out other people's mistakes, or so my husband tells me ;-}

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I noticed something today too, wonder if it's the same as the one you mentioned.... It stood out written out, but colloquially people use it often I think
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I would refuse to buy a stamp that was grammatically incorrect, simply because I am a stickler for it at school all day! Your sweet drives me crazy! It's You'RE sweet.... (just an example)

My son got mad at me the other day when we were out shopping. The sign outside Subway said "Loose weight like Jared".... so I turned around and went back. I went in and told them to fix their sign. The manager was thankful and promptly went out to remove the extra O, but my son was mortified!
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Another vote for teling them about the error!
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another vote for tell US what the error was!
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BTW what was the word - you don't have to mention manufacturer.
Yeah, what was the word??
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It REALLY bugs me when people use "your" for you are, when it should be "you're.

I am like Rainman when it comes to identifying spelling errors. I think I missed my calling in life to be a proofreader. It's a bit of a curse to be able to easily pick out other people's mistakes, or so my husband tells me ;-}

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I would let them know. My pet peeve is "quote" stamps that quote people
that probably never said what was quoted...
I think the person writting the stamp must think it makes it more credible.
I have fun making up my own sometimes although I don't use them with the person's name.
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Wow! Thanks for all the responses. Fortunately, it's not an actual stamp, it's just a word on their website describing a stamp set. The word is "infamous", but I'm sure that's not what they meant.
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I vote that you get your butt back in BCBW land.

Also yea, I'd tell them.

Can someone tell TAC that the flamingo legs are going the wrong way.
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I grew up with two parents who were BOTH English teachers. My dad once corrected grocery signs with a red pen. Grammar errors jump out at me as a result of my genes.

I would point out a mistake to the company, and I definitely couldn't buy the stamp myself.
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I get annoyed when I see "scraping" instead of "scrapping." For example, when someone writes that they "scraped their children today." Just weird.
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Kind of on the same subject. At one of my stamp camps many years ago, I was using a set with a pansy in it. One of my stampers told me that she would not buy that set for the pansy was anatomically incorrect! I didn't even know how to respond to that one! Every time I took that set out, I would look at the pansy in a totally different way!
I understand this line of thinking; I haven't purchased snowflake stamps that do not have six points, as a true snowflake has six points.
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I vote that you get your butt back in BCBW land.

Also yea, I'd tell them.

Can someone tell TAC that the flamingo legs are going the wrong way.
Oops...hehehe. Sorry, I've only been on here briefly lately. So much going on. I'll definitely head on over, now. If I can find the thread that is...
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Wow! Thanks for all the responses. Fortunately, it's not an actual stamp, it's just a word on their website describing a stamp set. The word is "infamous", but I'm sure that's not what they meant.
I saw that too! I agree that it's probably not what she intended, but it did read oddly.
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I'm glad nobody stated they "would of" told them about the error. I see this SO much. It's "would've"! (would have)

Whew! Thanks for letting me get that out. Somebody sent me a Customs document a couple of days ago with "would of" on it and it's been bothering me ever since! It was all I could do not to correct the form before completing my portion.
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Wow! Thanks for all the responses. Fortunately, it's not an actual stamp, it's just a word on their website describing a stamp set. The word is "infamous", but I'm sure that's not what they meant.
I see what you mean (I found where the error is). I looked up infamous on an online dictionary.

1. having an extremely bad reputation.
2. deserving of or causing an evil reputation; shamefully malign; detestable: an infamous deed

This definition certainly does not describe them!!
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Not at all! I absolutely adore them!
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Was it about me, I'm pretty infamous.
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Was it about me, I'm pretty infamous.
Was it me? I didn't think I used that word, but I am the WORST at grammar. I married and 4.0 English Major with a law degree. Ugh! Her has to proof read everything but he doesn't always have time so some things slip through!
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It was papertrey.
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Gina if it was you would you want to know?

I don't think it was you.

I think it was me. I mean a stamp company refering to me. "These adorable stamps inspired by the infamous Erin Kellogg blah blah blah" Because stamp companies can't help but be inspried by me.
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Looks like they fixed it! I guess it got back to them...I hadn't sent anything because I was afraid it wouldn't come out right.
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Nah... it wasn't you, Gina.
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So it wasn't about me either.

why does no one ever make stamps inspired by me?
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It was me! A few individuals just pointed the error out to me and sent me a link to this thread as well. Grammar is not one of my strong points, but it is something I continue to work on (especially now that all of my errors are very much publicized!).

Why is it in this day and age that there isn't some kind of software on the market that can help me with my grammar disability?!?!? *wink*

My goodness, they have voice activated GPS units for cars and vacuums that clean an entire room by themselves. Bill Gates, do you hear my plea?!??

Thanks for the heads up, ladies! Our website has been corrected!

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I saw something sort of similar to this. LAD released a set of stamps that are outerspace inspired. One of the stamps says "I spaced it! Happy Belated Birthday." I keep thinking that should say "I spaced out!" Is it just me? Does "I spaced it!" make sense to you? It just bugs me.
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