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Old 01-17-2017, 02:42 PM   #41
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I don't own much Tim Holtz but I do believe he is extremely talented. I didn't care much for anything but the sentiments but most of them I already own from other companies and I like pretty fonts. His stuff is grungier and I'm not really into grunge. That said, when I see his designs, I always admire them, but know they just aren't my style.
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Must've been posting at the same time! LOL. For storing those little jars, he could have put them upside down to see what was in the jars, don't you think?
My thought, also but I guess it's good they can fit both ways!
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And now he has a version of the MISTI/Stampers Friend/whatever! Must admit, I'm liking the look of his, and may now be tempted.


Brfore you spend money try just taping to of your blocks together with masking tape. I have used one like this for over a year, and you can just part them if you need to use it.
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The only thing of real interest is the oxide inks. But I'm not sure I like the color change to the pastel muted tones. It looks like what would happen if I added some white paint to ink or stain or some watercolors that have the chalky finish. I'll probably buy one just to play. Everything else is either something I have, don't like, or can live without.
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The only thing of real interest is the oxide inks. But I'm not sure I like the color change to the pastel muted tones. It looks like what would happen if I added some white paint to ink or stain or some watercolors that have the chalky finish. I'll probably buy one just to play. Everything else is either something I have, don't like, or can live without.
I don't do Tim's messy/layers thing but some oxi inks may find their way to my stash.

A few remind me of actual oxidized patinas - like how copper (metal) oxidizes to turquoise. Mixing a regular distress ink with an oxidized one, and applying to copper paper - and/or adding a bit of brown ink - will be on my to-do list. The jury is out on many colors.
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Finally really watched the video on the stamp platform. Interesting improvements! Hm.
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The oxide inks caught my eye and the Tonic Stamp Platform (hinged stamp positioner). I think that will blow all the other brands right out of the water. It has a lot of great features and the price point is quite reasonable. It will only be around $50 Canadian which will be a draw to many in this country.
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Other than the lid that comes off for clear to rubber and the size, what draws you to this stamp positioner? Those were the only two real differences that I noticed. I have a Misti and use it nearly every time I stamp, but my consider adding another if I can justify it!
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Kathy, it appears heavier duty and weighs more - which could be a plus or minus - like how some trimmers are portable and light weight and others are heavy duty. The 8.5x8.5 size is appealing. The lines are inside so protected. I like the easy-flip curved top. And the price point is good.

I think the Misti is terrific, and prices were able to remain what they were because it was the only kid on the block, other than more rudimentary positioners. I hope/bet it continues to do well.

But innovations happen, and ideas come from existing products and ideas, not in a vacuum. Tim spoke to this on his video.

IBM was "the" personal computer manufacturer. Blue jeans were invented and solely made by Levi Strauss, though I don't remember that! White Castle hamburgers owners invented the restaurant assembly line. (They wouldn't franchise so stayed small, but that's a very OT story.) That's not to excuse outright copying. It's terrible.

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Other than the lid that comes off for clear to rubber and the size, what draws you to this stamp positioner? Those were the only two real differences that I noticed. I have a Misti and use it nearly every time I stamp, but my consider adding another if I can justify it!
The things that I found to be a big bonus:

1. It is open ended on two sides so you wouldn't need/want it in various sizes as even a 12x12 scrapbooking page can be easily stamped on using this version.

2. Very heavy duty constructed with nice thick pieces of materials used. I didn't get the impression that it needs to be treated as delicately as recommended for the Misti.

3. The top piece is removable and it flips for different size stamps. I use, cling rubber, clear stamps and some bare rubber in my stamping, so I like that I have two options of depth without having to use a foam mat. I actually lost the foam to my Misti in my craft room for about two months. I finally broke down and bought some fun foam and cut it to size to use. Of course, the very next day I found my original piece of foam hiding in plain sight

4. The plastic base will be great for doing different techniques on and it will clean off very easily. The removable top will make for very easy cleaning as well. I envision myself running the top underneath my kitchen tap. I couldn't do that easily with the Misti.

Is it a must have? Not necessarily but if I was in the market for my very first hinged stamp positioner, I think this would be my first choice.
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I caved and preordered the positioner and a few Oxide inks - we'll see!
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I was thinking it was only 8x8, but can't remember. I forgot about the curved handles. That's a definite plus
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I like the 8.5 x 8.5 size of the work area and the fact that it is open on two sides for longer pieces. I almost always use a top-fold vertical card and it's hard with a regular size MISTI.

The hinge system intrigues me. Seems to be heavy duty.

My uncertainty stems from the grid markings on the top. I'd like to see that closer.

I may cave on a preorder...
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Oops, my bad. It's 8.5 x 8.5"
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I would have liked a close up of the lid. I'm sure it must be smooth, but the squares looked textured, like you could feel them...
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I thought that too, like they were just slightly raised... I wonder if that affects the cling at all?
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I thought that too, like they were just slightly raised... I wonder if that affects the cling at all?
That was my thought too. Is it bumpy and will stamps cling. I was thinking maybe it was just one side that might be bumpy, but even so, you use both side. It must work or he wouldn't be promoting it, but I thought I heard a noise when he ran his fingers over it, like it was bumpy.
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I just caught up watching all the sneak peaks, helped get me inspired again!
I think it's great how Tim encourages using the new products with ones you already have. I appreciate that since I'm not one to buy all new products each season.

I absolutely need the triangle stencil and I'm on the fence about the positioner. I don't have a hinged one like that, I use Inkadinkadoo's Stamp-a-ma-jig. I try not to purchase too many tools, but I really like the watercolor technique he showed.
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I also had to fight not buying all his new tapes, and I don't even like washi tape!
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Washi tape? I didn't SEE that! Oooooo gotta see if I can find that!
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I would have liked a close up of the lid. I'm sure it must be smooth, but the squares looked textured, like you could feel them...
When he ran his nails over the top piece, it sounded like the textured grid was etched on the top surface, not the underside. I'm happy with my WRMK Precision Press, but options are always nice for the consumer.
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When he ran his nails over the top piece, it sounded like the textured grid was etched on the top surface, not the underside. I'm happy with my WRMK Precision Press, but options are always nice for the consumer.
My recollection is that he said (twice?) that the grid was encased, not on the surface, so you don't have to worry about it. So I'm guessing if the surface isn't smooth, it doesn't have anything to do with the grid lines.
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My recollection is that he said (twice?) that the grid was encased, not on the surface, so you don't have to worry about it. So I'm guessing if the surface isn't smooth, it doesn't have anything to do with the grid lines.
My understanding is that he said it was molded that way, not etched. I thought he was saying that you could clean up ink easily because there were no etch lines to get the ink caught in there. There definitely seems like there is a texture, you can hear it in the videos when he runs his fingers over it. I do wish I could see one in person!
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I'm just trusting... since his stamps stuck right on there, that they're not raised enough to be a problem.
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All of the new Tim Holtz releases are available for pre-order at Marco's Paper for 20% off and free shipping in the Continental US. I bought the stamp positioner for $31.99.

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Ohh, great price! I got mine for $35, but the shipping was free.
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Was it going to be shown at Creativation? If so, maybe Lydia could give us some up-close-and-personal details...?
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One of the pictures here https://tonic-studios.com/product/ti...latform-1708e/ seems to show that they are indentations. I think the video made them look like they were ridges because the light reflected off them so much.
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I'm going to wait and see how the platform works you that pre-ordered. I'm fine with my MISTI so I'll just wait "for now".
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I think when people realize what they can do with them on dark cardstock they will be a hit. Personally I dislike using pigment inks because they are so messy and don't do well on detailed stamps so I just didn't stamp on dark cardstock, aside from heat embossing. Now I will have another option. Maybe they will do another Creative Chemistry class for them (hope so).
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I love Tim Holtz's products, always have. Do I make grungy type cards? No. But, this last bunch of releases I would buy in a heartbeat, if I had the money. I love those creepy animals (much more than the really weird ones SU had awhile back), and the stencils were marvelous. I just loved everything. His alcohol inks are my all time favorite art medium I own. I'm just so glad there are so many choices. I would be so bored if all the blogs I subscribe to had the same supplies. Variety is the spice of life & stamping is the dessert.
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The positioner...I am not sure about using alcohol on clear plastic but it does look more durable and definitely more masculine.


I am a little confused-I thought she had patented the misti? This is like the third spin off I have seen?


LOL. Tim is really the Martha now...the oxides-if you are into vintage or shabby chic or steampunk....looks like it is very cool. The opaque quality for darker paper is nice but isnt the same color-while on the other hand-some might like that you can get different colors out of the ink with different color CSs.


I am liking the little jars...just because I always like little jars LOLOL and I agree, he could flip them to see in but it would need to be light colored or a full jar maybe depending on the item? But I suspect you could be upside down and sideways at the same time. Very flexible that way and I always like that feature.
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I am a little confused-I thought she had patented the misti? This is like the third spin off I have seen?

Wave, I did a little research and found that the Misti is patent pending, and the patent has not yet been granted.


I know from personal experience some years ago that it's a long and expensive legal process to actually GET a patent. In the meantime, while the application is pending, there is really nothing to stop others from making a similar product.


And then, even if you finally obtain the patent, it is expensive to hire lawyers go after the many people who will copy your product anyway, especially overseas. It isn't fair to small entrepreneurs, but that is the system we have right now.
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The positioner...I am not sure about using alcohol on clear plastic but it does look more durable and definitely more masculine.


I am a little confused-I thought she had patented the misti? This is like the third spin off I have seen?


LOL. Tim is really the Martha now...the oxides-if you are into vintage or shabby chic or steampunk....looks like it is very cool. The opaque quality for darker paper is nice but isnt the same color-while on the other hand-some might like that you can get different colors out of the ink with different color CSs.


I am liking the little jars...just because I always like little jars LOLOL and I agree, he could flip them to see in but it would need to be light colored or a full jar maybe depending on the item? But I suspect you could be upside down and sideways at the same time. Very flexible that way and I always like that feature.
Even when the Misti is patented, the patent wouldn't cover all stamping tools or ones with hinges, and Tim's is different in several ways. If not I doubt so many Misti owners would be saying they might want one. (Like me!) Then again, Tim is such a good enabler. ; )

Offhand I can't think of anything we buy that doesn't have different versions and brands, even if they were started by one person/company. You even find people who say the Misti was a hugely improved version of a letterpress. Innovations.
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Old 01-24-2017, 06:53 PM   #76
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All of the new Tim Holtz releases are available for pre-order at Marco's Paper for 20% off and free shipping in the Continental US. I bought the stamp positioner for $31.99.

https://www.marcopaper.com/categorie...-2017-Releases

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Thanks for the link. I pre-ordered the stamp tool and the Sizzlets wildflowers.
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I agree with bjeans, almost everything we buy now is a version of something else- nothing new under the sun. I also think- I may be wrong- that a patent covers only the original design. Anything with enough differences isn't breaching the patent. And with the removable flippable lid, built in handle, moulded grid lines, open sides, I'd say Tims has enough differences to be in the clear. Pretty sure Tonics lawyers would have made sure of that.
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While I was watching him use the oxide inks, I said out loud, "Oh, no. He just ruined those inks. They looked so nice at first." I'm definitely not a fan of those. I don't like muted and faded colors, and these look washed-out and dingy to me. That's my taste and opinion. I'm sure he'll sell a lot of them, though, because there are a lot of people who do like that look.
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While I was watching him use the oxide inks, I said out loud, "Oh, no. He just ruined those inks. They looked so nice at first." I'm definitely not a fan of those. I don't like muted and faded colors, and these look washed-out and dingy to me. That's my taste and opinion. I'm sure he'll sell a lot of them, though, because there are a lot of people who do like that look.
I love that Distress inks and markers can be used for clean looks so different than Tim's grunge/vintage work.

So I'm excited about adding a few oxide inks for C&S cards or something I haven't thought of yet. Like mixing an oxide with regular distress ink - or even acrylic paint? - to make a copper/turquoise oxidized background or element. Or a sunset fading from bright to muted with streaks of something-or-other.

It may not work but the $$ will be minimal. I wish they came in minis off the bat, but he said nope.
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the oxide inks look fun but not for me. not my style. the positioner looks great but since I have a MISTI, I'll pass until the MISTI falls apart (which I don't expect to happen anytime soon). Competition is always good, because it helps bring down prices.
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