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Old 03-24-2005, 12:14 AM   #1
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I purchased the clear envelopes from SU. I have mailed a couple of cards but just got one back and was told I have to add 12 cents extra postage. I went to the post office and was told the are 12 cents extra. I said I had sent others with just a stamp but she just said I was lucky. Has this happened to anyone else?
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:52 AM   #2
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I have sent a few out - I have assumed that they made it to where they were going. I know for sure one did - cause it was a card for my dogsitter and I had put her check in it and it has been cashed. I don't understand why it would cost more......
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Old 03-24-2005, 01:00 AM   #3
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I have no idea why it would cost more and I asked but was told just because. I have sent others so I was wondering if I should continue just putting a stamp on. Just wanted to see if others just use a stamp.
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Old 03-24-2005, 01:06 AM   #4
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I probably would have insisted on them giving a legit reason - not a just because. Next time I go to the post office i am going to ask them about it. Maybe the person working there was new -- ???
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Old 03-24-2005, 03:01 AM   #5
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The post office is supposed to charge extra for those envelopes. It is because of their slipperiness/shininess. They sometimes aren't read by the machine. It's all on the USPS website. I've never had one returned, it's just a gamble I am sometimes willing to take. I think the only ones that get returned are the ones that actually get rejected by the machine. They then need to be handled manually, which is why there is a surcharge.
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Old 03-24-2005, 03:02 AM   #6
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What size envelope?

There's a note in the SU catalog for the Extra Large, Medium Square, and Large Square envelopes that says "Requires Extra Postage".

You can email the post office and get a response back within a few days. Go to www.usps.gov -> contact us -> email us
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If you look at the bottom of the envelope page (206) it has a notice next to an asterisk (*) that says "requires extra postage". The * is next to a number of different kinds of envelopes, including the clear ones.
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Old 03-24-2005, 03:38 AM   #8
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Anything that needs hand handling gets charged an extra 12¢ - I think. I know if the envelopes it to "puffy" (the official term the post office used!) you get the non-machinable charge. I'm guessing the clear envelopes are too slippery to go through the machine.
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Wow. I've used this too, especially recently. I know all mine made it with regular postage; but would like to know if the $.12 is a postal employee's "opinion" or actual fact. I would guess these do require extra handling though.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:09 AM   #10
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I have used the clear envelopes before. I was lucky and did not have any returned, but I did notice that it took my cards longer to get where they were going using them.
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FYI I was talking to someone who used to work at the PO and she said that it is because they are shiny and the machine won't read them. I suggest try using an address label on the outside of the envelope with the address printed on it. I have sent alot this way and have never heard a complaint. Also, make sure that you send it the regular way with the long part accross, not with the long part up and down. Does this make sense, anyway they will charge extra for this also. HTH Melony
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Its on the USPS website that they have to be Hand Stamped there fore you need to ad another .12c stamp to them. I have gotten away with the .37 before that guess i just got lucky. I now add the additional postage.
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I have sent out a lot of cards using the clear envelope and haven't had any returned-so far! I had no idea about the extra postage! I do however use a stciky label on the clear envelope to address them-that may make a difference.
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Maybe the recipients are getting a postage due on them and that is why nobody know. Could be.
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This is good information to know. I also stick a white address label to the front and have never had any issues, but the last round I sent out took 12 days to go from the Bay Area to Southern OR. The one to Ohio never arrived. Guess I better start adding that 12 cents!
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The clear envelopes are subject to a 12 cent nonmachinable surcharge because they are plastic - see info below from www.usps.com that lists other items that are considered nonmachinable.

Some cards in clear envelopes may go through through machine processing, but others may not.


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2.2Nonmachinable Criteria

A letter-size piece is nonmachinable if it has one or more of the following characteristics (see C010.1.3 to determine the length, height, top, and bottom of a mailpiece):

a. Has an aspect ratio (length divided by height) of less than 1.3 or more than 2.5.

b. Is polybagged, polywrapped, or enclosed in any plastic material.

c. Has clasps, strings, buttons, or similar closure devices.

d. Contains items such as pens, pencils, or loose keys or coins that cause the thickness of the mailpiece to be uneven (see C024.18.0).

e. Is too rigid (does not bend easily when subjected to a transport belt tension of 40 pounds around an 11-inch diameter turn).

f. For pieces more than 4-1/4 inches high or 6 inches long, the thickness is less than 0.009 inch.

g. Has a delivery address parallel to the shorter dimension of the mailpiece.

h. Self-mailers with a folded edge perpendicular to the address if the piece is not folded and secured according to C810.8.2.

i. Booklet-type pieces with the bound edge (spine) along the shorter dimension of the piece or at the top, regardless of the use of tabs, wafer seals, or other fasteners.
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I had never even noticed that it said in the catty that these envelopes are subject to more postage. I always use a label on mine, and as of yet, have not had any come back. I also haven't heard from anyone that they owed postage when the received them. Hmm! Very interesting! Thanks for the info!
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I probably would not tell the sender if I had to pay postage on a card they sent me - might embarrass them. If I sent a card - and the recipient had to pay postage - I would be embarrased! On the other hand - I would want to know because I would never want them to have to pay postage to get a greeting card from me!
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I sent about 100 Christmas cards and had about 4 returned for more postage. I think one of the post offices around here was more picky than the others.

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I have also used address labels on mine with no problem. I have asked those who received them and they were all received without any additional charge.
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