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Old 09-20-2010, 11:05 AM   #1  
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I sure hope SOMEONE can help me! I have been stamping about 3 years and would REALLY like to know if ANYONE can help me learn the "theory" of card making! Some may call it card sketch, templates.... I know there HAS TO BE a method of coming up with your own sketches! I read somewhere one theory---something like three lines that come together, there you place your focal point... Does ANYONE know? Those cards that use a specific sketch look so tailored! I would LOVE to learn HOW TO DO IT too! Just can't seem to find anyone that seems to know what I'm talking about! I always end up doing a collage card instead! Thank you for ALL of your help!!!!
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Here is what I know about the theory of ALL art. It is sometimes called the rule of nine. Divide your space into nine equal parts. Three lines across, three lines down. The main focus of your card, design, painting, whatever should fall into at least two of those spaces...better to hit three. It can be in the center but the main design element will be more "noticeable" if it is not centered but touches in in the center but mainly not in the center.

The other "rule" is called the rule of three. It concerns numbers of repeated images and how they should be stamped. Stamp in traingles. If you want to make a background, stamp three objects in a triangle shape (large, small, equilateral, uneven, whatever) and continue stamping in traingles
Odd numbers will always look best on your card. Don't stamp 2 of something , stamp three. The premise is that nature is always in odd numbers not even! 5 flowers is going to look better than six.
The other design thing I know about is to mix geometric shapes for interest. Don't make everything in squares. Mix squares and traingles or rectangles and circles.

I learned most of this in high school and college art classes...many years ago. If you look at some of the great cards in the gallery (Zindorf is an excellent example, Karen Barber another) you will see some of these principals in action. I don't post here at splitcoast, but you can check out my SU webpage if you want...Stampin' Up! Demonstrator. I have examples of my artwork, cased and original there.
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I learned design in my college Interior design classes. It is the same principle when designing and decorating a room...odds are best. Also, If you have a bold geometric then only have two more subtle geometric and 2 organics ( like a floral). 'Vicie Versie' for the bold florals. I have a card that illustrates it and I will scan it.

I would take a picture only Vegas kept my camera and my dignity earlier this month! LOL
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Can you see the organic vs geometric here?

Keep the numbers odd but you have like 21 if you want. I like busy!

btw--I did not make this card but I never will send it to anyone 'cause i love it!

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InkeePhingers!!!
THANK YOU!!!! I believe YOU have answered my question!!!! You don't know HOW LONG I have been asking this question!!!! I remember in my art classes in H.S. the odd number of things, but not the dividing up of the paper thing! What did you take in your college art classes? I took a look at your webpage---You have some BEAUTIFUL cards!!! I ESPECIALLY like your Christmas cards!!! I'm going to try to find the other ladies on here too that you recommended!!! Thank you SO VERY MUCH!!! Hopefully, I can figure this out with your instructions---When you get to be my age the rust sets in!!!
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THANK YOU!!!! You are helping me too!!!! I CAN see the geometric vs organic!!! I have always been INTO art!!! Since back in H.S., but I DO understand with card making---there IS sort of a SPECIFIC WAY of doing it!!! Whereas drawing or painting, you just DO IT!!!! Does that sound weird? Card making to me is COMBINING THE TWO!!! And there IS a specific way of doing it! I've been to a few SU gatherings, but NO ONE teaches the HOW TO'S, except how to do that specific card they're showing! I HOPE I can get this thing right!!!!
THANK YOU !!!!!! THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU !!!!!!! YOU LADIES ARE GREAT!!!!!!!!!!! I feel I have somewhere to begin!!! You know what would be nice?? If SOMEONE would hold classes here on Splitcoasters for people to learn this!!! If someone DOES? PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I'LL BE THERE!!!!
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wow....if there is a 'theory' I am dead in the water....giggle.....
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wow....if there is a 'theory' I am dead in the water....giggle.....
spew!!!!!!! me too! I just copy most of the time!
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Tlady, after 3 years of stamping I have to say I've not seen such an esoteric discussion of this obsession of mine. What a great question you have and great answers from our SCS sisters. I'd like to add that one way to learn about sketch or layout of a card is to see what the accomplished artists here create. Every Wednesday there is a Sketch challenge. I bet that if you begin to create cards with a layout that is given to you, you will have a better ability to create your own. Roxi is the hostess on Mondays and she has a large file of all the sketches we've used over the last couple of years to get you started. Can't wait to see what you post! Enjoy getting inky with us.
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I think that triangulation can also apply to a card's sketch. If your eye moves across the card in a triangular fashion with the placement of sentiment/papers/accent, then it seems to be a pleasing layout.

I also like symmetry in cards...four stamped images placed in a square formation, or three circles in a row. It doesn't have to be odd numbers, but it does work well when the images are lined up.

Of course, there's another aspect to card making that involves color choices, depending on where a color lands on the spectrum of a color wheel. Adjacent colors are complimentary, and colors on the opposite side are contrasting, etc. Warm colors paired with warm tones, cool colors paired with cool tones.

There's a lot of art in this crazy hobby we call papercrafting!
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Thank you CAKath!!!
I have been wanting to learn this for sometime, like I said! And NO ONE ever had an answer for me! I have read about the "rule of three," I believe it was in The Encyclopedia of Greeting Card Techniques, by Susan Pickering Rothamel. But, not much info. was given with it. When asking people, they don't know ANYTHING about HOW--- just do what is pleasing to the eye is what I'm told! Well, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder!" So, rather than ALWAYS doing collage, or centering my image, I wanted to know the mechanics of card making!!!! It's been SO MANY YEARS since art classes in H.S.! REALLY, I think it would make a WONDERFUL CLASS!!!! Thank you for the info. on the sketches here at Splitcoast! I DO get the weekly e-mails and head straight for the sketches!!! Sad to say, I am ALSO lacking in Techniques!!! BUT, find Splitcoast a SUPER place to learn that too!!!! THANK YOU EVERYONE for your help in learning!!!! I REALLY want to learn to do this on my own, that I don't have to depend on a sketch---You know, make it an "ORIGINAL!!!" Must be the "artist" in me!!!!
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maryrose!!
Oh yes! I agree with you!!!!! There really IS alot to learn in this hobby of ours!!! Color wise, I think I do ok! (Don't ask me to color your hair though!!! Coloring hair is SO ODD compared to our Artist color wheel! NOT the same AT ALL!!! You might end up with Green hair!!! LOL)
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What a great discussion! My thanks to everyone who is contributing.

Off to share this with fellow stampers now!

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I'm glad my question has helped others! I'm sure there would be others that wondered the same thing!!!! I just hadn't come across them!!! If your fellow stampers have any thoughts....CONTRIBUTE!!!! Thanks!
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This is a pretty old thread, but there's lots of good advice in here:

http:////www.splitcoaststampers.com/...y-t141484.html
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Somebody once told me that pple tend to look at things from clockwise direction. So we shouldn't layout in such a way that 1 item is on the right followed by something on the left and so on. At that time I thought this kind of layout looks fun.
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Simplicity by Late Blossom has some fantasic infomation on her blog about design that may address some of the things you are wanting answers to or understanding of!!

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Misstreez!
Thank you !!!! I WILL check out that site!!!!

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Thank you also!!!! SOMETIMES, some of us need ALL THE HELP we can get!!! LOL
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I just wanted to add that if you check out the sketch challenges, a lot of the "design theory" has been done for you....and if you're like me...it doesn't make a lot of sense to me, haha....or I just feel I'm not always great about the design. But, I can find a sketch I like and then figure out a stamp set to use and then get a great card out of it. They have a master list where ALL the sketches used on the challenges are listed. Takes a bit of the guess work (and a lot of time) out of the design!
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Misstreez!!!
I JUST checked out the blog you suggested!!!! VERY NICE!!!! AND, I subscribed!!!! THANK YOU!!!! I saw ALOT of CAS! I'm guessing, THAT is the way to learn "from the beginning," and then branch out from there!!! Thank you again!!!!
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Tlady, Glad I could help a little and thanks for the compliments on my creations. Validation is always a good thing!!!!
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I JUST checked out the blog you suggested!!!! VERY NICE!!!! AND, I subscribed!!!! THANK YOU!!!! I saw ALOT of CAS! I'm guessing, THAT is the way to learn "from the beginning," and then branch out from there!!! Thank you again!!!!
Late Blossom's particular focus is CAS, so she is always good resource if that is the mood you are in.
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RiverIsis!
I figure, with the CAS---it's basic and will maybe help me in the overall!!!! It's EASY to add bling and everything else!!! This way, things wouldn't get muddled!!! Learning the basic design elements and then working my way to a busier card!!! Thank you!!!
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Her style is definitely CAS, but I like the way she explains why some card designs work and some don't. The ideas should work for the 'more is more' card too.
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When I read your question, I immediately thought of an old blog post by Kurtis Amundson (krabearkub) on balancing different elements when designing a card. I found it helpful, especially with the diagrams he included...here is the link:

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My ideas just pop into my head usually. Then again my style is very simple.
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al_silver2!
THANK YOU for letting me know about Balance. It looks VERY INTERESTING!!!! I've subscribed!!! You ladies are VERY HELPFUL!!!! THANK YOU!!!! I'm SURE I'll get the hang of designing cards with all your help!!!!!
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Ok Ladies! What is "subbing?"
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THANK YOU!!!! That makes sense!!!! LOL
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I have to say it ....

You know you can subscribe by clicking on Thread Tools and then selecting the Subscribe to this Thread option.

I subscribe to a number of threads and get all excited thinking I'm getting an update - but what I received was a "subbing" post.

I'm trying to be helpful - not critical - and I hope it reads that way.
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On her blog, "Wiggy's World of Crafts" , Donelda has a really cool set of lessons that are partway down the right hand side of her page. I found these really helpful regarding design. She shows examples of doing it one way and then improving it. Great thread, I'm going to go back and read carefully and follow people's links.
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Elaine, you beat me to the punch. I immediately thought of Donelda's blog as soon as I saw this thread! Kurtis's tutorial is brilliant, too.

A really great way to learn about design is to take an online class with Julie Ebersole. That's what I did. She's a genius, and most of what I know about design I learned from her and from Cathy Zielski's scrapbook page design books (which apply to cards, too!).
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vanislandwoman & LateBlossom!!!
THANK YOU!!!!! I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HELP!!!! I am REALLY enjoying ALL of the information that is coming my way to help me in my learning!!!! I do follow some blogs, but NONE of them address the issue of Design! OF COURSE, I subscribed to the blogs you have made me aware of!!! THANK YOU!!!! You have made me SO VERY HAPPY!!! Tinyfeet is RIGHT!!!! You've given EXTREMELY HELPFUL INFO!!!! LateBlossom- I have subscribed to your blog too!!!!

Some one mentioned earlier that this was an "old thread." Well, it may have been a question that I asked awhile back, but I didn't get the answer I needed. So, I reworded my question! And here we are!!!! "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!!!!" And JUST LOOK AT THE WONDERFUL INFORMATION THAT HAS COME FROM TRYING AGAIN!!!!

THANK YOU LADIES!!!! (Still open for information!!! That's what wanting to learn does!!!! )
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Some one mentioned earlier that this was an "old thread." Well, it may have been a question that I asked awhile back, but I didn't get the answer I needed. So, I reworded my question! And here we are!!!! "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!!!!" And JUST LOOK AT THE WONDERFUL INFORMATION THAT HAS COME FROM TRYING AGAIN!!!!

THANK YOU LADIES!!!! (Still open for information!!! That's what wanting to learn does!!!! )
If you're referring to my post (#15), I wasn't talking about THIS thread, I was talking about the "Dirty Worthy" thread/link I attached (which I had to really dig for), which is an oldie, but a goodie. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
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Hi Ladies!!!
I just wanted to say ''THANK YOU" for ALL of your help in learning Design! I offended someone here on this thread and wanted to say I'm SORRY!!!! Not only am I not knowledgeable on card design, but I'm not too swift at the computer either!!!! I didn't realize there was a link on a post and I'm sorry for that!!!! I am one who doesn't like to offend people and when I do, I feel I should MAKE IT RIGHT!!!! If you haven't read the first post by Rubbernecker, PLEASE DO SO!!!! It is QUITE ENCOURAGING!!!! I read something like this quite awhile back, but sometimes we forget! Again, I AM SORRY for the misunderstanding and if there were hurt feelings!!! I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE ENCOURAGEMENT!!!!!
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