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Old 09-09-2019, 02:11 PM   #1
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I found a set of My Sentiments Exactly (MSE!) Birthday Sentiments that had been put into an old notebook and forgotten. I am not sure how old they are. Labeling read “My Sentiments Exactly TT208 Birthday Sentiments”. There were in their original packaging. I was going to transfer them to an E-Z mount sheet, but find they are not in very good condition. Stamps are very soft and tear easily. I located an old thread on SCS that suggested wiping them off with alcohol to remove the stickiness. I did this, which helped a little, but they are still pretty gummy. Is there any other way to recondition these stamps?
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Usually when they are soft and tear easily they are "goners", but I had a weird thing happen once upon a time that I will tell about here in case you're desperate and want to try it out...

Once upon a time I thought that it would be a good idea to wash ALL of my Close to My Heart stamps (clear) in some soapy dishwater and drain them in a colander and start anew. Not until after I had done this did I realize that the dish soap had BLEACH in it! It didn't appear to do any harm to any of the stamps, but I did notice that they seemed firmer somehow. Maybe try adding a drop or two of bleach into some soapy water and wash a couple of your stamps and see what happens...?
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I had an old Close to my heart stamps set that I found real gummy and did not stick to acrylic blocks. I soaked them overnight in dawn dish soap. Still real gummy. I tossed them.

I also have old Flourishes stamp sets that are getting gummy/sticky. So far they are working ok but I know there will be a day that I will have to toss them.
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I'm wondering if these were on acetate, as I know from past threads that at one time a lot of companies put their clear stamps on that, before people realised that acetate and clear stamps do not play nicely together. I'm not sure there will be a fix to be honest, as if that is the case, then there's been a chemical reaction between them, and that's breaking down the stamps. So, anything you try can't really make it worse. so Sues suggestion is worth a try.
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I found a set of My Sentiments Exactly (MSE!) Birthday Sentiments that had been put into an old notebook and forgotten. I am not sure how old they are. Labeling read “My Sentiments Exactly TT208 Birthday Sentiments”. There were in their original packaging. I was going to transfer them to an E-Z mount sheet, but find they are not in very good condition. Stamps are very soft and tear easily. I located an old thread on SCS that suggested wiping them off with alcohol to remove the stickiness. I did this, which helped a little, but they are still pretty gummy. Is there any other way to recondition these stamps?

I have had a similar problem with MSE stamps, so I think it was probably the way they are made. Some of the older clear stamps tended to yellow (even if they weren't in sunlight) and get soft. I have an old set of Wordsworth stamps that got so soft and gummy that I thought it wouldn't even stamp clearly anymore. The MSE stamps, while soft and yellowed, still stamped however. I just cleaned them with mild dishsoap and water, which removed the stickiness for the most part. Hope you can figure out something to help.

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Okay, so I got all curious to see if my information was even remotely accurate, pulled out an old (circa 2003/2004) stamp that was gummy and fragile and let it sit for a bit (10-15 minutes, maybe?) in a paper cup of water that had a drop or two of dish soap and a few drops of bleach, then rinsed it and let it air dry. It is, in fact, significantly less gummy and it doesn't seem likely to tear, so I'm considering this experiment a success! I have a few more soaking now, lol...

I can't, of course, guarantee that you will have stellar results, but if you'd have to toss your stamps anyway it's worth a try, right? If you give it a go, I'd be interested to know what your results were (and I'm sure others would be interested, as well).
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They may be made from acrylic and not photopolymer, or even if photopolymer, it could be a lower quality than is available now. (Some inexpensive stamps even now are low quality photopolymer.) Or what Shaz said. Sadly, they’re probably toast.

Googling the set, there’s a review on Amazon -
My Sentiments Exactly - Birthday Sentiments - TT208: Amazon.ca: Home & Kitchen
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Okay, so I got all curious to see if my information was even remotely accurate, pulled out an old (circa 2003/2004) stamp that was gummy and fragile and let it sit for a bit (10-15 minutes, maybe?) in a paper cup of water that had a drop or two of dish soap and a few drops of bleach, then rinsed it and let it air dry. It is, in fact, significantly less gummy and it doesn't seem likely to tear, so I'm considering this experiment a success! I have a few more soaking now, lol...

I can't, of course, guarantee that you will have stellar results, but if you'd have to toss your stamps anyway it's worth a try, right? If you give it a go, I'd be interested to know what your results were (and I'm sure others would be interested, as well).

Neat. Did you stamp with it? Daydreaming: before and afters though maybe you couldn’t do befores due to the gummy effect.
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Neat. Did you stamp with it? Daydreaming: before and afters though maybe you couldn’t do befores due to the gummy effect.
I haven't stamped with it yet, but I'm sure it will be fine. I have a few other gummy/fragile stamps that I plan to soak, so I'll do some before-and-after shots with those.

Update on the solution: I eliminated the dish soap and used about 1 1/2 tablespoons of bleach (I didn't measure, just eyeballed) in a cup of water. Seems to work better...

Another option: I had a sentiment that was gummy and tearing but that I could not bear to toss, so I "permanently" mounted it to a piece of plastic (it sticks by itself, but I'm NEVER taking it off, so considering it permanently mounted). When I use it, I just put a bit of poster tape on the back of the plastic and stick it to my MISTI. I have to be careful not to press too hard since it's kind of squishy, but it still works well. If you love your gummy, fragile stamps, that's another option for you...
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I haven't stamped with it yet, but I'm sure it will be fine. I have a few other gummy/fragile stamps that I plan to soak, so I'll do some before-and-after shots with those.

Update on the solution: I eliminated the dish soap and used about 1 1/2 tablespoons of bleach (I didn't measure, just eyeballed) in a cup of water. Seems to work better...

Another option: I had a sentiment that was gummy and tearing but that I could not bear to toss, so I "permanently" mounted it to a piece of plastic (it sticks by itself, but I'm NEVER taking it off, so considering it permanently mounted). When I use it, I just put a bit of poster tape on the back of the plastic and stick it to my MISTI. I have to be careful not to press too hard since it's kind of squishy, but it still works well. If you love your gummy, fragile stamps, that's another option for you...

Yay! You are the stamp whisperer it appears!! Never though to add bleach to the water but I need to try it on my one really bad set of Wordsworth Christmas stamps. I'll do a before and after photo too, just for fun.
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They may be made from acrylic and not photopolymer, or even if photopolymer, it could be a lower quality than is available now. (Some inexpensive stamps even now are low quality photopolymer.) Or what Shaz said. Sadly, they’re probably toast.

Googling the set, there’s a review on Amazon -
My Sentiments Exactly - Birthday Sentiments - TT208: Amazon.ca: Home & Kitchen

Yes, many of the older ones were acrylic and I guess no one realized they wouldn't hold up.
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I’m more jaded than you. My mind goes to planned obsolescence and quality not always being important to many manufacturers.

OTOH, high quality photopolymer wasn’t around way back when. Though even these days, we often get what we pay for - some companies still use acrylic or lower quality photopolymer. Very cheap and made in China sometimes is a clue.

I had a set from HSN that came free with some tool - I don’t remember what - and ink wouldn’t stick to a large, solid stamp, even after trying all the tricks. I didn’t even donate it - it wasn’t worth it. At least it wouldn't stain! LOL
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I’m more jaded than you. My mind goes to planned obsolescence and quality not always being important to many manufacturers.

OTOH, high quality photopolymer wasn’t around way back when. Though even these days, we often get what we pay for - some companies still use acrylic or lower quality photopolymer. Very cheap and made in China sometimes is a clue.

I had a set from HSN that came free with some tool - I don’t remember what - and ink wouldn’t stick to a large, solid stamp, even after trying all the tricks. I didn’t even donate it - it wasn’t worth it. At least it wouldn't stain! LOL

Oh, I have no doubt that some of those poor quality stamps were made carelessly, just to save $$. Many of the freebies that come with something are thin, flimsy, and are impossible to pull off the backing sheet. My daughter once bought some wood mounted bargain stamps that were made with a plastic, rather than rubber...and they don't stamp AT ALL! Even when I lightly sanded them, they just don't make an acceptable image.

Unfortunately, even some of the ones we pay for are poorly made, even today. BoBunny stamps are some of the worst, in my opinion. My earlier BoBunny stamps were fine but the newer ones (after they were bought by American Crafts, are terrible. They don't stick to the block and the images are poor.

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I fix my really dirty clear stamps with rubbing alcohol. I've used this to clean my stamps for over 5 years and no issues. It will remove a lot of crap.
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I'm wondering if these were on acetate, as I know from past threads that at one time a lot of companies put their clear stamps on that, before people realised that acetate and clear stamps do not play nicely together. I'm not sure there will be a fix to be honest, as if that is the case, then there's been a chemical reaction between them, and that's breaking down the stamps. So, anything you try can't really make it worse. so Sues suggestion is worth a try.


WHO KNEW that acetate & clear stamps don't go together???? That's how they sell them, you'd THINK they'd go together! My head is spinning now!
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WHO KNEW that acetate & clear stamps don't go together???? That's how they sell them, you'd THINK they'd go together! My head is spinning now!

Not all companies use acetate sheets for their photopolymer stamps. Some big ones do (it’s cheaper). SU does.

On a couple old threads there’s a list of companies that use acetate index sheets - but even if found it may be out of date.

Some companies insist that it does no harm - and maybe with today’s better photopolymer that some companies use, it doesn’t. At first when I learned about it I attached the acetate index sheets to Grafix Dura-Lar so the stamps wouldn’t touch the acetate, but stopped doing that - just got lazy.
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bjeans, thats the huge problem. There are so many different chemical compositions of photopolymer, and indeed, all clear stamps. Just looked up Wikipedia Acetate, and that seems to be the same sort of thing. Although it is a specific chemical compound, there can be many variations. And it's impossible to tell from looking at it, obviously.
I agree that maybe companies are using safe stuff now, as everyone is better informed- and probably do a lot more research on suitability- than when clear stamps first came into being.
Funny thing is, Barbara Gray, the owner/founder of Clarity Stamps, which were the first ever clear stamps, had her stamps mounted on special acrylic blocks, so I' ve never encountered this issue with my 25+ year old Clarity stamps!
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bjeans, thats the huge problem. There are so many different chemical compositions of photopolymer, and indeed, all clear stamps. Just looked up Wikipedia Acetate, and that seems to be the same sort of thing. Although it is a specific chemical compound, there can be many variations. And it's impossible to tell from looking at it, obviously.
I agree that maybe companies are using safe stuff now, as everyone is better informed- and probably do a lot more research on suitability- than when clear stamps first came into being.
Funny thing is, Barbara Gray, the owner/founder of Clarity Stamps, which were the first ever clear stamps, had her stamps mounted on special acrylic blocks, so I' ve never encountered this issue with my 25+ year old Clarity stamps!
You’ve nailed it, Shaz; it’s confusing. Judging quality is beyond [most?] stampers’ expertise. So the only thing I do is a “do not.” I do not buy acrylic stamps, or extremely cheap stamps (acrylic or photopolymer), often made in China. I don’t worry about the index sheet any more, maybe with a few exceptions.

Some companies make it simple. One clearly includes “acrylic” in their descriptions of their stamps, which are sold on well-known stamping websites. They’re cheap and may work beautifully for some, but after fighting with acrylic stamps - and early or cheap photopolymer - no thank you.

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THANKS for letting us know this, bjeans! I'll have to do some work now, to store all of my clear stamps differently! UGH!
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THANKS for letting us know this, bjeans! I'll have to do some work now, to store all of my clear stamps differently! UGH!
Just to clarify, I don’t store mine differently any more other than I could in unusual circumstances. Posts 16-18 get into it a bit.

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