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Old 03-27-2005, 10:59 AM   #41
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I received a bad batch of Rose Red. It was not the grain, and cracked either way and with scoring. It was too thick. I called SU and they sent me a new package right away!
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Old 03-27-2005, 06:18 PM   #42
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I am with M Shine! I used that cardstock the "normal" way, the long way, square, etc, and I scored it, and it made no difference! I used it anyway because I needed it right away, but at least now I know if it happens again to call SU right away!
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Old 03-27-2005, 06:23 PM   #43
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Does anyone know if SU uses 65# or 80# weight stock?
I want to say it's 80# cardstock. I felt some 65# once at the copy shop and it's much thinner.
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Old 03-27-2005, 07:54 PM   #44
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Before I started having problems it, I swore by SU's cardstock!

Now, if I've got to settle for different sized cards, scoring first (never had to before), and less than top notch results - - I consider that to be defective.

Bottom line is - SU does not consider it defective so I either have to live with it or find a replacement.


y2nh - have you had any problems with your cardstock?
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Old 03-30-2005, 03:40 AM   #45
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1. It is 80# card stock - so some of you may have problems with your printers if you want to print on it.

2. No, I really haven't noticed any problems with the CS.....except the color variations.....which I will whole heartedly agree should NOT be happening.

Maybe we are all so used to such great paper that if it is anything but, we think it is bad?
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:25 PM   #46
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Have you checked the grain of your paper? Depending on how the paper was cut will effect the way the paper folds. Long or Short...
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:48 PM   #47
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oh my gosh its terrible..if they dont do something im not buying it anymore. The fold cracks the paper...its horrible...can someone let them know. I am so upset!
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Scoring will eliminate the problem....extra work though.
I've bought packs and packs of SU! card stock (I do a 20 card workshop for 12-15 people monthly) and have never had a problem with fraying at the fold. I score all of my cards. I think it just looks nicer.

The sister of a customer of mine is a buyer for SU! and she's been to "paper school" (believe it or not, this is a real thing). She came to a workshop, and I was talking with her about a few things. She said that when you score your paper the side that you scored on, or the side with the indent should go on the outside of the card and the side that has the raised bump goes inside. It has to do with how the fibers of the paper are broken, and the side you've scored on is stronger and goes on the outside. HTH.
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Scoring will eliminate the problem....extra work though.
I've bought packs and packs of SU! card stock (I do a 20 card workshop for 12-15 people monthly) and have never had a problem with fraying at the fold. I score all of my cards. I think it just looks nicer.

The sister of a customer of mine is a buyer for SU! and she's been to "paper school" (believe it or not, this is a real thing). She came to a workshop, and I was talking with her about a few things. She said that when you score your paper the side that you scored on, or the side with the indent should go on the outside of the card and the side that has the raised bump goes inside. It has to do with how the fibers of the paper are broken, and the side you've scored on is stronger and goes on the outside. HTH.


I had to read it twice, but I think I have it down....who would have ever known??? TFS!!!
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Scoring will eliminate the problem....extra work though.
I've bought packs and packs of SU! card stock (I do a 20 card workshop for 12-15 people monthly) and have never had a problem with fraying at the fold. I score all of my cards. I think it just looks nicer.

The sister of a customer of mine is a buyer for SU! and she's been to "paper school" (believe it or not, this is a real thing). She came to a workshop, and I was talking with her about a few things. She said that when you score your paper the side that you scored on, or the side with the indent should go on the outside of the card and the side that has the raised bump goes inside. It has to do with how the fibers of the paper are broken, and the side you've scored on is stronger and goes on the outside. HTH.
Yes, I learned that on Carol Duvall years ago and have always tried to do it that way...


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Well,,,,,, I have never in my stamping life heard of that,,, but I will try it next time i score to fold my paper,,, I have been folding the score on the inside all this time,,,
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I had this happen to a customer and Su sent her a replacement pack of Real Red and they didn't ask for her package back. I thought that was pretty great!
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Wish I could go to paper school (insert whimsical emoticon here)
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when you all are talking about scoring your cs before folding, are you usually doing the ruler and dry embossing tool(forgot it's name) or using the paper trimmer with a scoring blade??

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Old 03-30-2005, 05:26 PM   #55
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When I score the cs, I use the scoring blade with my cutter.

I was glad to read someone else's input on the paper direction...because it really is the problem. It might be frustrating, but I think it really is just the problem and scoring is the solution. Whether or not people choose to do that extra step....well, that's a whole another discussion.

Paper is a funny thing - try this....take a scrp of cs and a full size piese. Close your eyes, and I bet the small piece will seem heavier. It's not, but the size of the piece will make it less likely toflop around....and then just feel heavier. It happens all of the time when I show my printing customer larger sheets of what their business cards will be printed on......they think it is too thin....but if I show them and actual business card, then it feels OK to them.

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Old 03-30-2005, 05:52 PM   #56
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If someone wouldn't mind sending me a piece of their really bad cardstock, I'd like to check it out (not a whole piece, just a cardsize, and I'll even reciprocate!).

The descriptions here remind me of sewing on a bias, and I'm wondering if the grain issue is that it is running diagonally. Don't know how it could be when paper production is standardized, but I'm just wondering.
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Lizzie,
Thank you so much!!!! I have been wondering what is the 'correct' way to fold, thanks!
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Is the grain of the paper something that can be seen by the naked eye?
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