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Old 04-20-2007, 01:42 PM   #1  
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I have a couple general questions about SU stamp pads. (I'm loving SU stuff!) I have a couple classic and a couple craft. But I am interested in purchasing some complete color family sets. I'm not sure whether I should get classic or craft. Right now, I don't do much embossing, but I think I would like to try it. Am I am told that you can only emboss with the craft pads. True? Other than they take longer to dry, are there any other disadvantages to craft pads? What about glossy paper - craft or classic? As a new stamper which type would you purchase? Also, could you recommend any particular color family to start with? Any tips or information will be appreciated. My SU demo is going to place an order on Monday and I need to make a decision. She didn't have much info for me so I figure I should go straight to the experts!! TIA
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Personally, I use my classic pads for making cards, etc because they dry faster. When I emboss I use versamark ink and add the color with the embossing powder. I bought all the classic pads first, and am now working on my craft pads because I want to use those in my scrapbooking. The one exception is the black craft pad, I bought that early to use for watercoloring, and I like to use it on glossy paper too. My classic black tends to look more purple.
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Something you might want to consider is the stamping spots. I bought the craft inks in the spots and then am building up the full size pads in the colors I find I use alot.
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Something you might want to consider is the stamping spots. I bought the craft inks in the spots and then am building up the full size pads in the colors I find I use alot.
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i prefer the classic inks... that said... here is a tip to have most any color embossing ( limited to the colors of ink you have)!

1. stamp in versamark and then ink and then on the paper or CS.
2. then add EP.
3. then heat set.

the versamark won't hurt the ink. be sure not to do the ink first as this will hurt your versamark (just ask my demo, oh i felt so bad!)
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You could also get all the dye inks since you like them and use them. Then purchase Transcendence embossing powder which works with dye inks too!!!! It's clear and inexpensive for the huge amount that you get!!! Just another thought...
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I use craft pads for making cards, and versamark ink for embossing. Then, I add color using embossing powders. And your paper question-- I prefer 'unglossy' paper... when using craft pads. Versamark works fine on glossy white paper.
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Personally, I use my classic pads for making cards, etc because they dry faster. When I emboss I use versamark ink and add the color with the embossing powder. I bought all the classic pads first, and am now working on my craft pads because I want to use those in my scrapbooking. The one exception is the black craft pad, I bought that early to use for watercoloring, and I like to use it on glossy paper too. My classic black tends to look more purple.
Ditto but add the craft White or better yet the Stazon White.
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Something you might want to consider is the stamping spots. I bought the craft inks in the spots and then am building up the full size pads in the colors I find I use alot.
me too, but I just use the spots (not moving up to fullsize). As for color, it's toatlly what you will use most. I find I grab EE, SS, RR, BB in that order. You need to look at what you have stamped in the past and what you really like!
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I chose classic ink pads because they dry faster. I have the black in craft and classic. For the color family, I chose bold brights first because I like bright colors, but now I have 3 color families.
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My main reason for using craft inks is to get a truer color when stamping on colored cardstock. It's kind of like the craft inks sit on top of the cardstock while the classic-dye inks soak into the cardstock blending more with the cardstock color. I have a comparison between craft and classic on my blog.

I really like to use them with background stamps to get color combinations (great for the color challenges!).

Here are some craft/cardstock colors from my gallery:

Pretty in Pink and Certainly Celery craft on Basic Black CS

Night of Navy craft on Real Red CS Navy classic would look more black and less blue.

Apricot craft on Certainly Celery CS (cardstock)

More Mustard and Sage Shadow craft on Cranberry Crisp CS

Rose Red craft on Chocolate Chip CS

Sage Shadow Craft on VIntage Violet

Close to Cocoa craft on Elegant Eggplant CS
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My main reason for using craft inks is to get a truer color when stamping on colored cardstock. It's kind of like the craft inks sit on top of the cardstock while the classic-dye inks soak into the cardstock blending more with the cardstock color. I have a comparison between craft and classic on my blog.

I really like to use them with background stamps to get color combinations (great for the color challenges!).

Here are some craft/cardstock colors from my gallery:

Pretty in Pink and Certainly Celery craft on Basic Black CS

Night of Navy craft on Real Red CS Navy classic would look more black and less blue.

Apricot craft on Certainly Celery CS (cardstock)

More Mustard and Sage Shadow craft on Cranberry Crisp CS

Rose Red craft on Chocolate Chip CS

Sage Shadow Craft on VIntage Violet

Close to Cocoa craft on Elegant Eggplant CS
beautiful cards! I see what you mean about the craft ink staying on top of the paper. Thanks for the input!
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i prefer the classic inks... that said... here is a tip to have most any color embossing ( limited to the colors of ink you have)!

1. stamp in versamark and then ink and then on the paper or CS.
2. then add EP.
3. then heat set.

the versamark won't hurt the ink. be sure not to do the ink first as this will hurt your versamark (just ask my demo, oh i felt so bad!)
Thanks for the input! This sounds like the best of both worlds!
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Thanks for all of the good information. I really appreciate it. There's nothing worse than buying something prematurely and regretting it later. I think I'll try the classic inks and maybe some colored embossing powders. And maybe some craft ink spots! And maybe some....
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When I saw the thumbs down on the start of your thread I thought you didn't like the SU pads or something I had to come find out why...whew
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Yeah, and also try not to spill your BLUE embossing powder all over your versamark pad, either! don't ask....
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Thanks so much Gibsonville girl. I thought I was ok not having craft. But now I see the error of my ways. Guess I'll be hitting my mins no problem in May. Thanks so much you enabler you.

Oh yeah, some beautiful work too.
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Yeah, and also try not to spill your BLUE embossing powder all over your versamark pad, either! don't ask....
ditto! i got gold EP on mine!
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To answer your question about glossy paper...I just got craft spots and I am loving them. I tried them on glossy and then embossed with clear EP and they worked amazingly. In fact, I find glossy a bit slippery with my dye ink pads, but didn't notice this at all with the craft pads. The colours are really vivid on the glossy paper. HTH you buy more stuff - tee hee!
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I bought Craft first and use them sometimes for watercoloring. Just dip your aquapainter in them and color, they work pretty well if you are just starting and don't want to buy them and watercolor wonders, I have both now though.

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I would also recommend heat setting the craft inks. This not only speeds up the drying time, but the colors are truer, esp. the soft subtles.
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Ditto but add the craft White or better yet the Stazon White.
Just FYI Stazon was not formulated to work on cardstock, but on glossy surfaces such as acetate. Craft white dries on dark cardstock and is visible, Stazon is not visible on dark cardstock.
I have all the families in dye ink in full size pads and craft inks in spots and I am happy with the choice I made. I also have Vanilla and White craft in full size.
As to which color family, go through the gallery and see which cards grab your attention, work out if it is because of their colors. Or go to one of your favorite stamper's galleries and see which color combinations are your favorite. It is a very personal thing, Earth Elements are my favorite, Bold Brights my least favorite, but it is different for everyone. HTH.
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I agree with jkstampin -- the sets of ink spots are the way to go! Easy to store, portable, and not a budget-breaker. When I got mine I would get the color family ($22?) and then the reinkers ($30) -- I reink them whenever I need to, which isn't often, plus now I have all the reinkers to use on other things like dyeing ribbon, etc. I have some of the larger pads (classic, mostly -- the craft ones are VERY juicy and tend to be messy, IMO I wish the new (6) colors came in ink spots (not to mention markers!) but I'm happy with full-sized pads and reinkers in those special colors.
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Ok I want to add something to this post, get the craft spots and here is why. I paint with my craft spots. It is so much easier to use because you can touch the tip of the blender pen right on the craft pad and color, it is much more difficult with the classic pads, with them, you have to squeeze the ink onto something plastic. I am planning to only buy craft ink from now on. Love it.
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This was going to be my suggestion as well. I am not very patient and having to always wait for the craft ink to dry would make me crazy!! I think the craft spots are the way to go; see which ones you use a lot and then start adding the full size pads to your collection.
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