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Old 05-08-2006, 03:57 AM   #1  
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Default whats the differance between prisma pencils.and regular colored pencils verses water

is there a differance between the 3 of these in looking at a card using these 3 products seperately.

prisma pencils.how do you use them and is there something you use with them please list products you would use with these.

regular colored pencils

watercolor pencils

there all pencils so what is the differance in all 3 of them.what kind of a look do you get with each of them.I have regular colored pencils and the watercolor pencils and even the watercolor crayon

So I guess my question really is do I need to get the prisma pencils or are they no where near close to the other two.
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Good question! I want to know too, I have the inks, wccrayons and wcpencils do I really need the prismas?
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OK the difference between the watercolor pencils and prismas or other colored pencils is that watercolor pencils are water soluble....Prismas and other colored pencils are OIL based leads and you need Gamsol or another type of mineral spirits based product to blend them.

I love prismas because they are high quality they lay down a lot of pigment easily and they blend like BUTTAH.....I also use gamsol versus the other odorless mineral spirits and I use both the Prismas and Gamsol with Blending STUMPS to blend them...a Stump is made of pressed paper where as a tortillion is rolled paper...don't use tortillions, make sure you get stumps...
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I got the prismas colored pencils and the stumps this morning. But noone sells gamasol .I really would rather use the gamasol.who can tell me who sells this.
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Can you find stumps at Michael's? I've been able to find tortillions -- why are stumps preferred?
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www.inkyantics.com sells gamsol. And really cute stamps!

You don't want tortillions because they will not do what you are looking for. The stumps will soak up just a bit of the gamsol when you roll it on the top and then you will be able to blend using the stumps...
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another brand of Gamsol is Mona Lisa. Michaels carries it in thier art supply area. They also have stumps.
Sorry I didn't answer your question about the differences between the types of pencils- anyone?
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Does Michael's have the prisma pencils? Can you buy them individually, or do you have to buy a whole set? If by set, which set do you recommend, a smaller one to start, or do you end up really needing the larger ones to get enough colors?
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another brand of Gamsol is Mona Lisa. Michaels carries it in thier art supply area. They also have stumps.
Mona Lisa is an odorless mineral spirits but it is not as high quality as gamsol. I had ML first and then swithched to Gamsol and it is FAR superior!
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Does Michael's have the prisma pencils? Can you buy them individually, or do you have to buy a whole set? If by set, which set do you recommend, a smaller one to start, or do you end up really needing the larger ones to get enough colors?
Karen you can get them individually if you would like. I have a set of 48 but wish I had all 120! Ebay has some good deals on the prismas. A friend of mine got a set of 48 for TEN DOLLARS!!!!!!
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Ok, thank you...I need these pencils and the gamasol, etc....just do!
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Does Michael's have the prisma pencils? Can you buy them individually, or do you have to buy a whole set? If by set, which set do you recommend, a smaller one to start, or do you end up really needing the larger ones to get enough colors?
Michael's does have Prismacolor pencils $149 for 120 (Hobby Lobby was $179)which is a fair chunk of change even with a 40% off coupon. I just got 120 on ebay for $51. Whoo Hoo!!
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Will someone clarify for me?

I use gamasol over any kind of regular colored pencil to blur the lines? So it would help to have high quality ones, but I could use them over crayola ones if I wanted to? And to use the gamasol I need a stump to blend it? But a stump doesn't have any color itself.

And a water color pencil is like a colored pencil except if you paint water over it, it will blend the lines so it looks painted not colored?

This is very complicated stuff
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Jerry's Artarama has good prices on these pencils! www.jerrysartarama.com
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www.dickblick.com has the Prismacolor Pencils on sale right now. @4 @ $17.98 - 48 @ $37.98 and the 120 @ $89.98. They also seel them individual for only 94 cents each. They also sell Gamsol.

I like their *wish list* to keep tract of my pencil colors. I can go in a pick have many and what colors i want to buy at a time and it remembers them for me!

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Ok. So I go to Michaels to check out the Prismas. They are 25% off this week, so I could not use a 40% coupon. They were all out of the sets of 48 which seems to be a popular number. The individual pencils were handled and mixed up.....

At our JoAnns every single package was opened or tampered with. And, they were more expensive.

I think I will try on line, at the places you have suggested. I really like the idea of collecting the individual pencils in the colors I use the most, OR a bargain on ebay.

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Here is a link to a chart in the Resources forum. It gives you the Prisma color number matches to Stampin' UP! colors. I have the set of 120, and I am missing about 5-8 of the color matches, if I remember correctly. Those are the ones that I am going to purchase individually. I printed out the chart, colored a swatch in each square if I had that color and taped it inside the lid of my pencil tin.

http:////www.splitcoaststampers.com/...d.php?t=129270

Your are going to love your Prismacolor Pencils! Oh, and I agree, I tried a couple of different mineral spirits, Gamsol is the best!
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As someone responded in the original thread this color chart came from, Holy Moley!! I can not thank you enough for this. It helps so much....
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Ok, thank you...I need these pencils and the gamasol, etc....just do!
Karen - I can't wait to see what you do with these. I've never used them before. I've got the SU watercolor pencils, the watercolor crayons and all the markers. Don't tell me I need these too!
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Here is a link to a chart in the Resources forum. It gives you the Prisma color number matches to Stampin' UP! colors. I have the set of 120, and I am missing about 5-8 of the color matches, if I remember correctly. Those are the ones that I am going to purchase individually. I printed out the chart, colored a swatch in each square if I had that color and taped it inside the lid of my pencil tin.

//www.splitcoaststampers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129270

Your are going to love your Prismacolor Pencils! Oh, and I agree, I tried a couple of different mineral spirits, Gamsol is the best!
Thanks so much for this link. It'll really help to be able to match the colors!
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Mona Lisa is an odorless mineral spirits but it is not as high quality as gamsol. I had ML first and then swithched to Gamsol and it is FAR superior!
I totally agree with Keri.... use Gamsol... it blends so better than the other products, you'll be much happier with the results I made the switch from Mono Lisa's and I can't believe I didn't try the Gamsol sooner!
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I totally agree with Keri.... use Gamsol... it blends so better than the other products, you'll be much happier with the results I made the switch from Mono Lisa's and I can't believe I didn't try the Gamsol sooner!

I am so glad others see the difference!!! Yipee!
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FYI, a stamping friend and I tried the Magic colored pencil technique 3 different ways (with the Mona Lisa brand of oderless mineral spirits):
1) with a regular colored pencil (not a super cheap brand, but something I got at an art supply store 48 pencils for $25),
2) Prismacolors
3) with SU watercolor crayons (just to see)
The prismacolor pencils worked far better than the rest. I'm gonna give my other regular colored pencils to the kids and get some Prismas. As was already mentioned, the pigment in the prismas is really rich and full, but yet broke down easily with the mineral spirits for a nice blended look.
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