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Old 08-15-2006, 05:29 AM   #1  
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Default Prisma pencils with prisma blender pencil

What's the trick?

I just got my summer by the sea set and I was coloring with the pencils, and used the prisma blender pencil and I am not sure I did it right. How do you blend?

Color the whole picture and then basically color over with the blender, right?
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This little pdf helped me understand prismas and gamsol more than anything else.

http://www.inkyantics.com/pdfs/GamBlend.pdf

Have you read this before? HTH!!
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No, I hadn't seen that, thanks.

I was using the blending pencils though, not gamsol. I was under the impression that you didn't use gamsol with the blending pencils. Maybe I am doing this completely wrong, wouldn't be the first time.
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With the gamsol you don't use the blender pencil, you use a blending stump which is actually a lot of layers of soft, felt-like paper very tightly wound into what looks similar to a pencil but is all one color - solid white. It will absorb the gamsol, and allow you to apply it to the prisma you colored and the point lets you spread it to where you want it and get into small areas. Same principle as a blender pen except it is solid and you dip it in the gamsol. I've got a prisma blender pencil and it doesn't seem to do a thing, but the stump and gamsol are great!
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The version of my Magic Colored Pencil booklet on Gingerwood and Sanford is quite, quite old and I've revised the booklet once, and am working on another revision. When I teach it I hand out a list of tips from the new version that I think you'll find helpful. I gave this to Cecilia Ross to make it available to all you guys and she created a zip file for it and it also includes two blending charts that you'll like. Now, I am not so good at doing this posting stuff, so please let me know if the address below doesn't work and maybe how to do it. Cecilia posted it as a zip file to be downloaded so that is where the address will go if I did this right (I did test it, but who knows). Here is the address and forgive me in advance if I messed up - at least I am a good colorer, and could create Magic Colored Pencil, if nothing else!!

Also, if you ever have questions on Magic Colored Pencil, please let me know - have fun coloring, debbie gimbel ([email protected])

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WOW welcome Debbie ~ It's so awesome to have you join us

yes, the link to Cecilia post does work
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I have long admired this technique Debbie - thank you for sharing it with us!!! I just googled you and came up with this link I would like to share for the other ladies here who have also admired this technique. THANK YOU again for sharing your knowledge with us and for joining us here!!!

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Debbie! THERE you are! I have a copy of your magic colored pencil tutorial that I printed out YEARS ago from Gingerwood....it's so faded now, lol, and I was very happy Cecelia posted your updated article. So nice to see "the" Magic Pencil girl!
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I can't open the zipped file because I no longer have winzip on my computer so my DH will have to open it for me later on his. THANK YOU!!!

Now, I just read the link that Ellen posted and basically you are saying to use the gamsol, and not the blending pencils then? I will have to try that. I htought I heard I could use the pencils, since I have little ones I wanst sure about the Gamsol.

Thanks again for all the information, I really appreciate it.
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I forgot to add my attempt:

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Jennifer-back to your original question; no, you don't use Gamsol with the blender pencils. You color your image and then use the blender pencil to smooth out the pencil lines. It gives a different effect than the Gamsol; you can't make the color move as much, but sometimes that's what you're looking for.
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Jennifer, you can definitely achieve a beautiful look with your blender pencil! If you are worried about the effects of the Gamsol I would just stick with the blender pencil or just the crayons. I did a little write-up on colored pencils on my blog a few weeks back. I did a comparison of the three different ways of coloring using your color pencils. They each look different, BUT they are all beautiful!
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I have these and what I do is color it in using a light touch. Then using the blending pencil rub over the colored image to get rid of the lines so that it doesn't look like a child colored it, LOL.

I have had great results with the blending pencils and haven't found the need to get the gamsol -- one more thing to keep away from my 2 year old that I don't need to deal with -- but someone mentioned baby oil might work. If I was desperate to get a different look I might use that but so far the blending pencils have done well and I don't have to worry about any extra bleeding or liquids on my paper as well as I can use whatever cardstock (the regular US white is fine with the blending pencils).
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Just wanted to post a little oops reply!

Sorry about confusing the original post! I thought it was about gamsol and prismas, not blenders pencils and prismas.

Oops, and how cool that Debbie posted with us!!
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Debbie it's super cool that you've joined here! To the OP one of the tricks for me with using just the blender is to have smooth paper. It seemed easier to move the color for me then. Perhaps others have had different experiences.
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I am so sorry, I immediately assumed that any talking about blending with prismacolors was gamsol directed and missed completely that the discussion was about the blender pencil. One of these days I will get this right -
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Oh Debbie, please do not apologize, I am flattered that you posted to me, and I saved Ellen's link in my favorites. Tonight my DH is suppose unzip your link for me so I can take a look.
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I guess most people discovered Magic Colored Pencil when I demoed it at conventions or they found it at the Gingerwood or Sanford sites. The version on these site is really old (just like its author!) so what I am going to do is load out the revised booklet when I master attachments (I probably did it wrong above). I'll also post a link to a list of stuff that will go into the revision that I am currently writing. Cecelia Ross, a talented fan of MCP, put that out a few weeks back and it includes some other stuff, too. You might also want to check out my color theory booklet also on Gingerwood. With all of this you should be loaded up with info on Magic Colored Pencil except for really visible samples! I have read that people think the samples on Gingerwood and Sanford are too small and they are right. That can be remedied right here as you can see some fabulous MCP cards by very talented Splitcoasters who have galleries of cards using the technique. I guess I should put all this on the proper thread as I got it wrong here. Anyway happy coloring and please let me know if you have questions - debbie gimbel
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Debbie,

Thank you for providing all this information. I have a small set of Prismas that I want to check against your chart and then I can go buy the individual ones in good colors to fill out my collection. Your tutorial on gamsol is fabulous. Also, your Color Theory is very useful. I haven't had time to read it in its entirety yet, but with this information I will be more apt to purchase outline stamps rather than solids. In the past I wasn't pleased with the results I achieved and the colors I chose, so I avoided them, but admired those who possessed the skills to color and shade beautifully. You've inspired me to try again. Thanks.
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I buy mine at Michaels, ACMoore, and Joanns, that way I can buy them individually. You can also buy them online individually at http://www.dickblick.com/zz205/08/ and they are actually the cheapest per pencil.

Debbie, I am going to go looking for all your info for me. I so appreciate all your help. I do not have any Gamsol, as of yet, but as soon as I do I will try your step by step technique, and hopefully have some luck.
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The effect you get with the blender pencil is entirely different than what you get with other blending methods. The blender pencil doesn't *move* the color at all, it smooths it -- it blends in the sense that any lines or edges of color-shading areas become less obvious. Depending on how much you apply (and how hard you press when doing so), it can also give a lovely gloss to the coloring -- sort of like a glaze. To my eye, it also intensifies the color somewhat. If that's what you've gotten when you used your blender pencil, you've definitely done it right! I'm pretty much colored-pencil challenged, but have gotten some neat effects by using the blender pencil on some areas of a piece, and not using it in others. I'd upload a scan, but the difference doesn't show... HTH!

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What's the trick?

I just got my summer by the sea set and I was coloring with the pencils, and used the prisma blender pencil and I am not sure I did it right. How do you blend?

Color the whole picture and then basically color over with the blender, right?
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Thank you Debbie! I printed off your instructions and started reading them so I will attempt to find some Gamsol, somewhere (actually it will probably be one of he other kids you listed).

Sue, I must have done it right then becasue that's exactly what my finished product looks like. I do like it, but I feel that I need to practice some more.
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Do you all prefer the PRISMACOLOR pencils over the SU Watercolor Pencils. I am very disappointed in the colors of the SU Watercolor Pencils. So I am wondering if I should invest in PRISMACOLOR pencils? What do you all think? Also, is the blender pencil also in the PRISMACOLOR pencils line? LM
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I just got the su water color pencils too, but I too find the colors very limited. I think that they will have their use, because of the look of water color pencils, but I do love my 120 colors of prismacolor pencils.
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Don't confuse watercolor pencils (SU or any other brand) with Prismacolors. They are NOT the same, lol! Watercolor is a whole different thing, and just requires water to break down the colors.

The blending pencil is a Prismacolor product, yes.
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I don't think anyone is confusing them. I think we are just saying that the colors are very limited in the tin that SU sells. There should be more variety. I have many sets of water color pencils (as I am into art) and they all have a greater variety of colors than the SU set.
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Thanks Momofoneson...you are correct! LM

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I don't think anyone is confusing them. I think we are just saying that the colors are very limited in the tin that SU sells. There should be more variety. I have many sets of water color pencils (as I am into art) and they all have a greater variety of colors than the SU set.
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Sorry! I misunderstood what you were saying (like THAT doesn't happen often, lol!) I do agree that SU needs a larger selection with their pencils, both the WC pencils and the regular pencils. I just thought you were thinking of using the watercolor pencils with the blender pencil for some reason.
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Well I will be happy to report that I tried my prismacolors with the blender pencil and love it!!! It is definitely different than the gamsol, but you can do alot with it and it is not yucky. I worry about the gamsol because of the chemicals, though I bought some. I will use the blender pencils over the gamsol. To me it gives me the look I want more so than the gamsol. We each have our own likes. I also think the blender blends very well. One more thing to try for people who don't like the chemicals or don't want them around your kids, prismacolor has a blender marker, works as well as gamsol. You can probably get them from Dick Blick, though mine came in a accessorie package. But I do prefer the pencils and they are cheap.
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A blender marker huh? Is it similar to the blender pen SU sells?
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No this is specifically for prismacolor pencils. The SU blender is for water color pencils.
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Well I knew that...LOL I was just wondering if it was similiar to the SU one, meaning looks like. I will run out and look for one today. Hopefully Michaels will have it, I have a gift card burning a hole in my pocket!
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Hey Jennifer,

I found a fabulous odorless mineral spirits instead of gamsol (they are basically the same thing) for about $3 at Michaels!
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LOL, sorry! Not really looking like SU blender, it looks like a fat marker, with a write tip and a brush tip. I didn't see it at AC Moore but that is not to say it wouldn't be somewhere else, since our AC Moore didn't even have the pencils.
Dick Blick doesn't have them listed either, so maybe have to go to an art store where they sell drawing supplies.
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Little hint for gamsol, put it in contact lense cases. Then you only have to be exposed to a tiny bit at any one time.
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Of course, make sure you don't mistake it by clearly labeling the contents especially if you are a contact lens wearer.
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I found a fabulous odorless mineral spirits instead of gamsol (they are basically the same thing) for about $3 at Michaels!
Cool. I am going to go there today and check things out. Debbie mentioned a few that they might have that would work. Thanks.

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LOL, sorry! Not really looking like SU blender, it looks like a fat marker, with a write tip and a brush tip. I didn't see it at AC Moore but that is not to say it wouldn't be somewhere else, since our AC Moore didn't even have the pencils.
Dick Blick doesn't have them listed either, so maybe have to go to an art store where they sell drawing supplies.
Oh no. My ACMoore is way better then my Michaels so now I am going to bet they wont have it. An art store...never thought of that. I don't even know where one is here in Knoxville, I will have to do a search. I am sure I will find one, and I bet they will have a good supply of pencils, which will mean I will be broke...LOL

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That is an awesome idea!!!

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