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Old 08-28-2006, 12:22 PM   #1  
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I went to mail some stuff out today and the postal person told me that the invitation sized envelopes couldn't be machine fed and therefore it cost me more money to mail.
(they were under the ounce andthickness....just plain cards with a couple of layers)

Is this new? I don't recall ever having to pay more for standard cards in invitation envelopes.

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Old 08-28-2006, 01:08 PM   #2  
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I think it's a scam. The same thing happened to me recently. I was floored when she said that, but I didn't say anything back, stupid me. Next time I'm going to say, no go ahead, send it through the machine, lady. I really think it depends on who's waiting on you. Anyone else have this happen recently?

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Or, you can just put stamps on them and drop them in a mailbox or the mail slot. I have never had a problem and that's always how I mail. They don't have the opportunity to say anything to you then!
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What are the invitation envelopes?

I know I have to pay 12 cents more for the square ones and the clear ones, and the tiny ones are not large enough to be mailed.
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I'm from Canada and I have never had to pay extra for using the clear envelopes, the cards even had hardware on them.
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I've had (and friends too) odd size cards cards come back for not having enough postage, so if it needs to be there in time put the extra 12 cents on it!
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I'd had to put exta postage on for "lumpy" cards- if they are too thick to go through then they have to be hand cancelled. At my PO they have a little device that you can see if it will slide through cleanly. Otherwise, they'll end up all torn up.
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I have actually received a card from a fellow stamper and had to pay the post person the .12 because they say it is not standard size. This seems to be a hit or miss thing. More misses than hits in our area.
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Canada Post has a website that describes the minimum and maximum dimensions for various postage rates. I would imagine that USPS has similar information available.
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I went to the postal website and technically it does cost extra. There is a place where you put in dimensions and if the ratio is off it costs 12 cents extra. I had just never heard of it and I would hate to send a card and someone have to pay the extra.
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I have mailed hundreds and hundreds of invitation size and equally as many in clear envelopes and have never had a problem. My friend did wedding invitations in clear envies and none of us had to pay postage when we got them. I agree with the person who said to drop them in the box and not take them in.
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I have had to pay extra to mail thicker cards and it was at my place of employment, so I don't think she would tried to cheat me. I do agree that you could probaly just stamp it and put it in the mail though, I have done that too. I recently mailed a shaker card with sand in it and marked it sand enclosed, I never know how the postal service will think these days about shakeable things in a letter.
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So what size and shape are these "invitation" envelopes? Are we talking A2 envies (the size a card made with a half sheet of CS fits into)?
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I stamped a card once, but it out for my carrier and the next day it came back, 'more postage required'. I just put a note on it for my carrier (since when does A2 size require extra postage). He left me a note saying it was an over zealous clerk! (I'm guessing this is your situation as well). I have mailed TONS of invitations (wedding, 25th anniversary, birthday party) all with embellishments and thicker than a standard folded sheet of card stock, that is the only time I've had a problem. I do know that square envies require extra postage. But, I, too have not had a problem with vellum envies. HTH
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Yes, this is the size I am talking about.
I actually went and got the box and used the measurements on the card and we are well within the limits of no extra postage.
I was using the measurements of the card which just barely missed it.
http://postcalc.usps.gov/mailpiecedi...mage2.y=9#form
I am going to print this out and carry it with me so they can't harrass me about it.
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So what size and shape are these "invitation" envelopes? Are we talking A2 envies (the size a card made with a half sheet of CS fits into)?
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I haven't had a problem with the A2 envelopes requiring extra postage but I usually mail my cards in cellophane envelopes (clear) and they do require extra postage.
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The surcharge should be 13 cents, not 12 cents. That's weird.

http://www.usps.com/consumers/domestic.htm

Nonmachinable Surcharge:

An additional $0.13 is required for items weighing 1 ounce or less with any of the following criteria:

A. Square letters.
B. The height exceeds 6-1/8 inches, or length exceeds 11-1/2 inches, or thickness exceeds 1/4 inch.
C. The length divided by height is less than 1.3 or more than 2.5 (length is the dimension parallel to the address).
D. It has clasps, strings, buttons, or similar closure devices.
E. It is too rigid or contains items such as pens that cause the thickness of the mailpiece to be uneven.
F. It has an address parallel to the shorter dimension of the mailpiece.

I can't find anything about clear envelopes, but I've heard of others being charged extra to use them!
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i have never had a problem. of course i just drop in the box and run. they will have to catch me if they can.
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I have to pay extra at my PO for clear envies, but just the .39 for regular A2's. The postmaster (we have a very small town PO) said that in the city 30 miles away where our mail goes said I have to pay the extra 12/13 cents b/c the envie is too slippery to go through the machine...Keri
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I have to pay extra at my PO for clear envies, but just the .39 for regular A2's. The postmaster (we have a very small town PO) said that in the city 30 miles away where our mail goes said I have to pay the extra 12/13 cents b/c the envie is too slippery to go through the machine...Keri
Slippery!!! Wow. Do you use the ultrasmooth? I use Staples envies for most of my cards - I keep some SU! ones around for special cards.
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Slippery!!! Wow. Do you use the ultrasmooth? I use Staples envies for most of my cards - I keep some SU! ones around for special cards.
Oops, or did you mean that the clear ones are slippery?? LOL - I got confused!
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Apparently there are TWO sizes of "invitation" envelopes. I was in Staples today and noticed a smaller envelope that was also called invitation, right next to the regular A2 invitation envelopes. Perhaps your postal clerk was thinking your envelopes were the smaller size.
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I stamped a card once, but it out for my carrier and the next day it came back, 'more postage required'. I just put a note on it for my carrier (since when does A2 size require extra postage). He left me a note saying it was an over zealous clerk! (I'm guessing this is your situation as well). I have mailed TONS of invitations (wedding, 25th anniversary, birthday party) all with embellishments and thicker than a standard folded sheet of card stock, that is the only time I've had a problem. I do know that square envies require extra postage. But, I, too have not had a problem with vellum envies. HTH
Now, this is interesting.....an overzealous worker. Once they send it back to you, isn't it already postmarked? When I have had this happen, I've had to put it in a whole new envelope, with all new postage. Bummer.
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