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Old 07-30-2006, 04:14 AM   #1  
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I am curious as to how many of the people on SCS got their "jobs" as spokespersons or designers for various stamp companies? I know Lisa Lisa is a designer for A Muse, as is Julie....I've visited many of their blogs (love them, by the way ). How did all of you get these jobs? Do you get compensated monitarily, or in stamps? I would love to know more. Thank you!
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I can't speak for Lisa and Julie, I've applied to stamp companies, when they have a call for Design Team Members. They normally ask that you send them samples of your work or gallery links. I design for Technique Junkies, Innovative Stamp Creations and Lasting Impressions with Panache.
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I've always wondered this very same thing........
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And what is the typical type of compensation? Monetary reimbursement? Discounts? Free products?
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I want to know too!!! That would be the best job in the world. Please pay me in stamps and I am happy girl.
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Do not have the answer directly from any of those companies, but I have a few friends who are artist designers in the print media world. They all are freelance, get paid per job done and are constantly struggling to find the next "gig" or piece of work.
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I am curious as well.
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Can any of you A Muse designers chime in? You are probably busy creating fantabulous cards right now!! Thanks!
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funny, I've been wondering the same thing lately!!! I too would love to know all the details...do tell!!! It also seems as though everyone (most companies/designers) are on the west coast....is there anyone on the east coast?? If not, can I fill that position???
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I can tell you this... all the ladies I see who are doing this are WONDERFUL stampers! They deserve the gig! I hope they at least get FREE stamps!
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Anna Wight (sweetmissdaisy) also designs for whipper snapper I believe....

Sereikastamper and Lunar Luna design for Inky antics, and pinefeather too maybe?

Mona Lisa just got into a line I am cannot remember the name.

And Lauren (mytime) gets to work with the great company who made her daughter's stamps.

We have a ton of gals who do great work for various diffenrent people....maybe they can all chime in as to how it's done!
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just bumping this up...
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I follow these gals' blogs, and often wonder the same thing!! I would love to hear all about it!
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is anoyone reading this?
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Are we being ignored!! Say it isn't so!!!!
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I wonder if you would get a better response if you started a different thread with a more obvious title?
Each company probably handles compensation differently.
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Good question...someone MUST know the answer.
Maybe they aren't allowed to answer (about compensation)??
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You may do better asking a company directly versus trying to get the artists to share what they may see as private information, though I would assume you are reaching for generic and not specific information.

You might also consider they may not be "ignoring" - rather, they may not be able to discuss their working relationship with companies, as the company may offer different compensations based on talents or style preference. You can visit a muse website and see their designing team, and there is contact information for you to inquire about becoming a designer. The likes of Julie and Lisa prevent me from pursuing such avenues...

I have some artist friends (not stamping, but graphics) who work differently with companies. Some get supplies and/or financial compensation, while some companies prefer a freelancing relationship with their artists. In the past, I've worked on the side as an interior designer and it was the same for me -- it depends on the company's and/or artist's relationship preference.
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Ladies! Hello! Soooo many threads! I have to put my dear son to bed, but then I promise to answer some questions.
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Alright, let me take a crack at answering some of your questions.


How do designers get hired?

Several ways:
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-the company likes the concepts/layouts that the designer creates with their images
-the designer contacts a company that they admire and asks if they can contribute designs
-a designer becomes established enough to join CHA (Craft and Hobby Association) and is contacted to do work on a professional basis


How are designers compensated? And what is the typical type of compensation? Monetary reimbursement? Discounts? Free products?

The compensation varies with every company. Some companies offer free stamps, while others offer free stamps, product and compensation on a flat rate or per item. I would say that this information is probably confidential with most companies, so you may not get much more info than that. Sorry!

Designers are often sent images or product well before release, to give them time to create samples and/or submit to publications.

Anna (SweetMissDaisy) is a graphic artist as well as a concept designer, so I suspect her terms would be different.


How much is confidential? What can they share?

Most can share that they work for a company, but not the terms of their employment. I will have to let each designer speak for themselves here too.

Finally, I would say that everyone has different expectations. I have been thrilled about my developing relationship with Cornish Heritage Farms who own the SonLight Impressions, Cat Dancing Design and Holly Berry lines. It was really important for me to be working with a certain type of company. CHF is a smaller company that is all about a personal touch and excellent customer service. That makes me want to go the extra mile for them and contribute much more than they ask.

Is any of that helpful?
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Really helpful, and interesting! Thanks for taking the time to answer us!
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Thank you so much for taking the time Lisa! It is EXACTLY the information I was looking to find out. Didn't want or need any detailed confidential information, just generalities. I am certainly NOT at the level yet to be a designer for a stamp company, but it looks like an awesome gig, so I'm gonna get my old patooty in gear and polish up my skills! Thank you so much! You are a class act!

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Alright, let me take a crack at answering some of your questions.


How do designers get hired?

Several ways:
-Design Team Calls
-the company likes the concepts/layouts that the designer creates with their images
-the designer contacts a company that they admire and asks if they can contribute designs
-a designer becomes established enough to join CHA (Craft and Hobby Association) and is contacted to do work on a professional basis


How are designers compensated? And what is the typical type of compensation? Monetary reimbursement? Discounts? Free products?

The compensation varies with every company. Some companies offer free stamps, while others offer free stamps, product and compensation on a flat rate or per item. I would say that this information is probably confidential with most companies, so you may not get much more info than that. Sorry!

Designers are often sent images or product well before release, to give them time to create samples and/or submit to publications.

Anna (SweetMissDaisy) is a graphic artist as well as a concept designer, so I suspect her terms would be different.


How much is confidential? What can they share?

Most can share that they work for a company, but not the terms of their employment. I will have to let each designer speak for themselves here too.

Finally, I would say that everyone has different expectations. I have been thrilled about my developing relationship with Cornish Heritage Farms who own the SonLight Impressions, Cat Dancing Design and Holly Berry lines. It was really important for me to be working with a certain type of company. CHF is a smaller company that is all about a personal touch and excellent customer service. That makes me want to go the extra mile for them and contribute much more than they ask.

Is any of that helpful?
Yeah, all of what Lisa said!

I just found this thread ... and I can share that I am a designer for A Muse ... so blessed to be a part of that great company!

All I can say is: find your stamping style by taking the time to STAMP STAMP STAMP ... then investigate what companies are out there that match your style. What stamps do you use the most? Build up a portfolio of your work ... submit to publications ... contact companies you may be interested in designing for.

It does take time and lots of effort ... and persistence pays off!

Wish I could say more, but I hope that helps somewhat. Maybe some of the other designers here on SCS will chime in!
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So much work. I don't think I have ever worked this hard in my life! There are lots of ups and downs too. There are so many great designers in the industry right now, the competition for publication calls are getting more intense with each passing month. I have had a fair amount of success early on, but wow, it still can be really discouraging!

You just have to believe in yourself and rely on the kind comments of friends and other designers to keep you going.

But all things worth while in life are worth working hard for right?
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Thanks for the information. Good luck to all of those trying.

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You may do better asking a company directly versus trying to get the artists to share what they may see as private information, though I would assume you are reaching for generic and not specific information.

You might also consider they may not be "ignoring" - rather, they may not be able to discuss their working relationship with companies, as the company may offer different compensations based on talents or style preference. You can visit a muse website and see their designing team, and there is contact information for you to inquire about becoming a designer. The likes of Julie and Lisa prevent me from pursuing such avenues...

I have some artist friends (not stamping, but graphics) who work differently with companies. Some get supplies and/or financial compensation, while some companies prefer a freelancing relationship with their artists. In the past, I've worked on the side as an interior designer and it was the same for me -- it depends on the company's and/or artist's relationship preference.
Wow, interesting link. I was amazed at just how many people they have designing for them! I wonder if all of the stamp companies have so many artists.
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I will never be a designer. I'm a great math teacher, with stamping as a growing hobby, and that's all I ever intend to be.
But, this got me to wondering: is this a job that these ladies can use to supplement their income? I have heard that some demos make big money with SU. You are talking about designers, so I wondered if it is like an actual job to help pay the bills, or if it's more of a way to help feed your stamping habit, and share your art, but you need to keep your day job (or your dh needs to keep his).
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Lisa did a fab job 'splanin'...so articulate!
I would just add in my case... a list of publications you have been featured in or accepted for. Many companies want published designers... but not all.

also...there are a few types of designers...concepts, illustrators and product.

I currently do concept and product design! Each company is immensely different in their expectations/compensation.


my best advice if you are interested in pursuing a design job is to take products that you don't care for... be it an image of patterned paper and create.... this will stretch your abilities. Someone once told me that a good designer can design something fun with any stamp image or piece of paper. I had to overcome patterned paper issues! LOL!
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I was sent this link by a friend last week and am finally able to reply after being out of town last week!
Most of my experiences with the design team I am on (Paper Salon) would echo what Lisa has already said... the details of how design teams operate are very specific to each company. There are lots of cases where getting a position on a team is extremely similar to applying for any other job... filling out an application, sending in a resume that shows any publications, qualifications, etc, and showing the company a sampling of your work. And, just like many "regular" jobs, the details of payment, etc, may not be given until you are offered a position on the team. For that reason, payment details on various companies may be a little harder to come by since we, as designers & employees, want to make sure we honor our companies by keeping those things between us and the company we work with. I'm sure everyone understands that, though!

It never hurts to build up a resume... that is probably the best advice that can be given. And it's not that hard! There are lots of publishing opportunities out there... I think the hardest part is just being willing to really focus in and make the time to submit things, etc. Really, as others may have already mentioned, that is the hardest part of the whole thing. There are lots of opportunities, but this is also an industry with lots of designers. That makes for what can sometimes feel like a lot of rejections. That may come in the form of emails, or even sacrificing the work that you've made by sending it in and then not having it picked up for publication. The volume of work is one thing I've had to adjust to when moving from a hobby stamper to a designer... the flow of new ideas needs to be constant and the production of those ideas needs to come quickly. That is one thing that can be worked on and practiced through builiding a resume, etc. Also, each company has a specific style and general feel to their product... they may be looking for designers that can really hit on that style, but they also may be looking for designers that bring a completely different feel. One thing that's important to note is that many companies only add designers as needed... that may mean that they get a whole new roster of designers every so often or it could also mean that they are only replacing a few as people step down for a while, etc.

I will say that this did not happen overnight for me. I've been stamping for four years, and during the last year to year and a half I sat down, identified my goals, and started focusing in on the steps that would be necessary to get there. I did end up accomplishing some of my goals this year and ended up on the team I was really wanting to be on, and I can't say enough good things about it! It's so, so cool to work with fun stamps and paper and to challenge myself with new designs and assignments. I love it and will probably be leaving my part-time job that I also work from home to spend more time on the design side.

Does that help at all...?
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This is a great thread. I had wondered about several of the ladies on this site and their connections to various stamp companies. All of the responses are very interesting. But I do have a basic ?. Are you referring to designing the actual stamps, or cards and projects using their stamps? I'm also wondering is their a certain amount of creative things you have to design, or is it whatever # you just happened to feel were good, to have them look at? Are these companies wanting a variety of stuff or are they looking for your "style" to show through in each project? Lastly does the company tell you what they want as far as main ideas? Actually, I could go on asking ?'s. I'll just keep up with the thread, and see what other interesting tidbits all of the extremely creative women, let us in on! Thanks for such great info.
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Wow, interesting link. I was amazed at just how many people they have designing for them! I wonder if all of the stamp companies have so many artists.

Actually, the design "team" itself for A Muse has been dismantled, but the owner of the company has not had time to update that information and now instead has a Preferred Designer Program.

Many stamp companies have Preferred Designer Programs (I'm using that as a generic term), but they all vary greatly, and depending on the company whose images you think you'd like to work with, you should contact them and see what the specifics of their respective programs are.

Some manufacturers have official Design Teams, others have Preferred Designer Programs, etc. A lot depends on what the company finds works best for them.

Looks like everybody else has done a great job of answering all the questions!

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Oh, and something else, that's, hopefully, another helpful little tidbit: If you commit to designing for one particular company, they may have restrictions on what OTHER companies they would permit you to design for, due to conflicts of interest with competing manufacturers.

Stamp on! And on, and on, and on .........
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Old 08-05-2006, 10:23 AM   #38  
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This is a great thread. I had wondered about several of the ladies on this site and their connections to various stamp companies. All of the responses are very interesting. But I do have a basic ?. Are you referring to designing the actual stamps, or cards and projects using their stamps?
The folks that create the artwork/drawings for stamp images are referred to as illustrators.

The folks that use the stamps to create finished works are referred to as designers.

I'm a free-lance designer and an instructor.

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I'm also wondering is their a certain amount of creative things you have to design, or is it whatever # you just happened to feel were good, to have them look at? Are these companies wanting a variety of stuff or are they looking for your "style" to show through in each project?
Depends on the company.

Speaking only for myself, as a designer and instructor, in many cases a given design job requires me to use my skills to reflect the company's style itself, not mine, in the creations they ask me to produce and the classes I teach for them in retail stores.

I wanted to clarify the above: I am actually an independently contracted designer (free-lance) and instructor.


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Lastly does the company tell you what they want as far as main ideas?
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Actually, I could go on asking ?'s. I'll just keep up with the thread, and see what other interesting tidbits all of the extremely creative women, let us in on! Thanks for such great info.
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Old 08-06-2006, 12:18 AM   #39  
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First off, I'd like to say how diverse this site is in the info I can glean from it. I'm amazed I even stumbled upon this thread since I usually do not even venture outside of the demo area. But I have recently been feeling more amazed than ever that one can come here, not only for inspiration on cards, etc, but also can get all kinds of info from what to make for dinner (darn, I still need to visit that crock pot thread someday) to moral support on personal issues with families to what's behind the business side of stamping publications! How amazing!

This thread has been a very interesting read. Not that I plan to become a designer or illustrator anytime soon, but it sure is fun learning what is involved if one is interested in that path.

I do have one question and that is, since, say, SU!, A Muse, etc. designs are copyrighted, how is it that designers are able to get permission submitting them for publication in non SU publications, and then get compensated for the designs themselves? Is it just a matter of giving proper credit to the products they use in the card "recipe" or do they have to get special permission from those companies before they submit their work? This had me curious since there's been a lot of discussion lately on the (sensitive) topic of CASE'd designs.

Just curious...

And thank you to all the designers who came to share, to the extent that they are able, what is involved. Something that a lay stamper like myself would never have known. When I pick up a publication and I see names like: Julie Ebersole, Lisa Johnson, Lisa Strahl, etc., I go "wow" these are the gals who share their knowledge and talents with us. They are stamping celebrities on our very own SCS!!!

Woo hooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow, I'm impressed by all you ladies who have "made it" as designers, illustrators and instructors. You are all awesome with your creations!
Thanks for starting this thread. I have always wondered this myself! How very interesting!
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