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Old 10-22-2011, 07:02 PM   #1  
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I got the In the Meadow stamp and die sets, and now I'm feeling a bit frustrated. Does anybody know of a video or two that might have lessons in getting them lined up? I'm not having much luck, I'm afraid.
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I don't have that set, but I know they recommend cutting first and stamping second. Would that help?
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I got the In the Meadow stamp and die sets, and now I'm feeling a bit frustrated. Does anybody know of a video or two that might have lessons in getting them lined up? I'm not having much luck, I'm afraid.
I don't have any PTI sets with matching dies, but I do have several of their tag sets that you line up on different size circles, etc. I have a pretty steady hand and good eyes (with glasses, lol) but I always have trouble lining up the stamps so that there is an even white border all around.

I looked at Nicole Heady's blog to see what she had done with In the Meadow, and it all looks great. Lovely stamped images on the die cuts with a perfect white border all around the edge. Maybe it just takes lots of practice, which I am sure Nicole gets to do at Papertrey. The gals on their design team all seem to get the stamps just right on the die cuts, too.

Maybe you need to make a few "practice runs" after you die cut the images, just to line things up right. I know you have to be looking straight down at the image through the acrylic block in order to get it anywhere near even all around the edges.

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Thanks...it's those practice runs that have me befuddled, lol! I will keep practicing, I was just hoping someone might have seen a video or pictorial, step-by-step instructions with some fabulous tip...
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Its not you! I actually stopped buying those matching dies because it's too difficult. I got so frustrated trying to do some shower favors for my sister using the sweet baby stuff, I ended up selling the set and dies. I really wish they would sell the die alignment tools. Now I only buy dies that can be used alone

I will pass along this method I read on the PTI board:

Cut the die on to a blank sheet (I'll call this the negative sheet). Stamp the image onto a separate sheet. Put the negative sheet over the stamped image you want to cut. Center the opening of the negative sheet over the image. Using the negative sheet as a guide, put the die back into the diecut hole of the negative sheet. Without shifting any of the layers run it through your machine.

I've never tried this method but in theory it should work. Good luck!

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Its not you! I actually stopped buying those matching dies because it's too difficult. I got so frustrated trying to do some shower favors for my sister using the sweet baby stuff, I ended up selling the set and dies. I really wish they would sell the die alignment tools. Now I only buy dies that can be used alone

I will pass along this method I read on the PTI board:

Cut the die on to a blank sheet (I'll call this the negative sheet). Stamp the image onto a separate sheet. Put the negative sheet over the stamped image you want to cut. Center the opening of the negative sheet over the image. Using the negative sheet as a guide, put the die back into the diecut hole of the negative sheet. Without shifting any of the layers run it through your machine.

I've never tried this method but in theory it should work. Good luck!

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JJ, thanks for this tip. It looks like a bit of trouble, but I agree, it also looks like it should work.

I'm like you...if it's too much trouble or too tedious, they lose me. I have this hobby for fun, not frustration!
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It looks like there's several videos on Youtube: pti dies - YouTube
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Its not you! I actually stopped buying those matching dies because it's too difficult. I got so frustrated trying to do some shower favors for my sister using the sweet baby stuff, I ended up selling the set and dies. I really wish they would sell the die alignment tools. Now I only buy dies that can be used alone

I will pass along this method I read on the PTI board:

Cut the die on to a blank sheet (I'll call this the negative sheet). Stamp the image onto a separate sheet. Put the negative sheet over the stamped image you want to cut. Center the opening of the negative sheet over the image. Using the negative sheet as a guide, put the die back into the diecut hole of the negative sheet. Without shifting any of the layers run it through your machine.

I've never tried this method but in theory it should work. Good luck!

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It helps to cut the blank sheet/negative sheet/template in a different than the stamped image. So if you stamped your image on white cardstock cut your negative on a different color paper. This really helps to see clearly where the die cut should go.
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Not sure if this works for the PTI dies, but I saw a video on Sizzix and their new stamps with matching die cuts. The woman in the video actually stamped first and then used a piece of sticky note paper to hold the die over the stamped image, and then cut. Of course, their dies are open dies and you can see through them. Might be a bit trickier with the closed dies.

I own the PTI set Leaf Prints and matching dies. I didn't have any problems cutting first, then stamping onto the die cut. With the clear stamps, it seems easier to do. Maybe not for every set and matching die, though.
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Here's a Hero Arts video for their matching stamps & dies. It seems easier to stamp & then place the die over the stamped image.

Here's another video using a stamp positioner as option to perfectly line up stamp on a die cut. The die cuts are made from a digital image & cut with a Silhouette but you get the idea of how to use the matching stamp with a positioner.
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I think the new Hero Arts/Sizzix sets are made to match up easier; JulieHRR has done a couple of videos where she uses washi tape to hold the die over the stamped image; perfect every time! I'm going to look for one of those sets when I get to my LSS this week!
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Betsy, I have the same issue with matching stamp and die sets, but beyond that, for the now and then times that I want an image cut out, I really don't mind doing it by hand. It's even kind of fun if you're not doing a bazillion and I rarely do mass production.

I did purchase the In the Meadow stamps and dies though but ONLY because I thought they were nicely done and I would use them independently.

The idea of cutting a template is a good one - a little cumbersome, but will certainly work! And I found dispensers of Post-It Tape at Target some time ago which would really help with or without a template.
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I've used them two different ways depending upon the die.

1. die cut the paper and use post it notes (sticky side up, Nichole's way) to hold the die cut in place while stamping.
2. cut a piece of acetate as a guide first. stamp your image and then using the acetate guide, draw guide lines around where you want to cut lightly with a pencil.
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I have a die cut that has a matching stamp and what I did was cut out with the die then took a small piece of tape and put it on the back on the cut out piece and placed it on a scrap piece of paper then stamped the image on my stamp a ma jig sheet and lined the image up with the die cut and stamped it that way. It can be a bit of a pain but it turned out really well.
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You guys are awesome! I did some more practicing last night; I put the die cut piece down onto a contrasting color to help me see it better. I did a little bit better, but still not dead on. Looks like I need to cook up some popcorn and watch some videos, lol! Thanks so much for the links and ideas! And, Nancy, I bought them figuring I could use them independently, too, but I did want to give it a try, anyway...I guess I'm stubborn.

I had planned on getting a Hero set anyway, because they do look easier, but this PTI set just grabbed me!
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I have two of the Hero Arts/Sizzix sets, and they are very cute and easy to use. Can't wait to buy a few more! When you consider that they each include a full stamp set and lots of accompanying dies, I think they're a real bargain!
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Betsy, I may end up still trying them together, too!!! Even though I know I wouldn't have bought them if I didn't think I could use them separately . . . now that I have them, I bet I'll at least try it.

I bought the cutest reindeer stamp set from Hero Arts - and didn't even know you could buy the set with the dies. Had I known, I may have changed my feelings about matched sets of dies and stamps because of that open design. I bet it's easier.
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I use a stamp-a-majig for the PTI dies. It's the best tool I ever bought. It also helps me to align some of my mounted rubber stamps. Gina K did a video on how to use this tool. HTH
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Mary Rose, I tried to PM you but your box is full!!! Thank you so much for your thoughtful gift and lovely card!!!

I'm so tempted to look at more of those Hero Arts sets . . . I have danger warnings go off in my head when I check out Hero Arts -- I'm afraid there's addiction potential there!
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SAMJ!!! *slaps forehead* That would be a huge help! I love it - great tool!
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I have a die cut that has a matching stamp and what I did was cut out with the die then took a small piece of tape and put it on the back on the cut out piece and placed it on a scrap piece of paper then stamped the image on my stamp a ma jig sheet and lined the image up with the die cut and stamped it that way. It can be a bit of a pain but it turned out really well.
I basically did this, but I have one of those nonstick craft mats, so I stuck the die cut to the craft mat with a piece of score tape (holds really well), then used my stamp positioner to stamp. Pretty good, although the positioner tends to slide a bit on my mat! (Might be operator malfunction. )

The scor tape holds SO well, that I have to peel the mat off the die cut rather than the other way around, or I will rip the back of the die cut. LOL.
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Mary Rose, I tried to PM you but your box is full!!! Thank you so much for your thoughtful gift and lovely card!!!

I'm so tempted to look at more of those Hero Arts sets . . . I have danger warnings go off in my head when I check out Hero Arts -- I'm afraid there's addiction potential there!
Nancy, it was the LEAST I could do to thank you for your generosity! And yes, I am sensing the danger warning with Hero Arts stamps, too. But I ignored the warnings and bought a bunch anyway!
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If you like the Hero Arts stamp & die sets...Go check out the Memory Box stamp & die sets! OMGosh cute!
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This is my first post!
I was just doing this today and thought I'd share my solution since it seems to work pretty well. The one I've been fooling around with today is PTI's Turning Over a New Leaf set and matching up all the little leaves is brutal. Once the stamp is all inky there's no way I can see through it to position it properly. Anyway... here's what I did.
  1. ink up the stamp, put it on a block, lay it on the table face up
  2. -with the stamp face up on the table, take the diecut and sort of "float" it over the inked up stamp. Place it on so lightly you can reposition by tapping it with your fingernail.
  3. -When everything looks good, press the diecut down onto the stamp with a second block. Resist the urge to twist, just press all over.

I was surprised how well this worked. Even the worst ones turned out better than the ones I had done the regular way. Hope this helps someone!
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I did a Google Search: Can anyone line up the PTI In The Meadow dies? and this old old thread came up. I have tried all of these methods, even SAMJ and it's still not perfect enough The closest I came was using the negative to position where the die would go but the problem I ran in to is that the inside of the negative is smaller than the die. Meaning I set the die on top and now can't pull the negative off without moving the die!!! I have looked for videos that show someone actually lining up the dies (other than circles and flowers) and can't find a thing. I have, though, found several websites with people asking this very same question. Does anyone out there have a video or tutorial with pictures that show lining up PTI dies? Thanks for listening to me whine
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I did a Google Search: Can anyone line up the PTI In The Meadow dies? and this old old thread came up. I have tried all of these methods, even SAMJ and it's still not perfect enough The closest I came was using the negative to position where the die would go but the problem I ran in to is that the inside of the negative is smaller than the die. Meaning I set the die on top and now can't pull the negative off without moving the die!!! I have looked for videos that show someone actually lining up the dies (other than circles and flowers) and can't find a thing. I have, though, found several websites with people asking this very same question. Does anyone out there have a video or tutorial with pictures that show lining up PTI dies? Thanks for listening to me whine
I use the negative die cut method like you do but I cut a slit in one side of it to open it up so I can remove it from around the die. You just have to be very careful and make sure you have firm pressure on the die or it will slip when you remove the negative guide. After I remove it I use some removable tape to hold the die in place and run it through my Vagabond.
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Why do you remove the negative layer before running it through the machine? You shouldn't have to. Once you take it out of the machine, remove the die, the negative layer, and then pick up your die cut shape.
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Why do you remove the negative layer before running it through the machine? You shouldn't have to. Once you take it out of the machine, remove the die, the negative layer, and then pick up your die cut shape.
Well DUH! I did not think about that!!! I was using cardstock as my negative but now that I think about it, I could just use something thin like vellum or something so as not to make the sandwich too thick. I swear sometimes I don't know how I get my shoes on every day. Thank you, SkyNacho, for pointing that out. (Looking for the Homer Simpson emoticon DOH!)
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Well DUH! I did not think about that!!! I was using cardstock as my negative but now that I think about it, I could just use something thin like vellum or something so as not to make the sandwich too thick. I swear sometimes I don't know how I get my shoes on every day. Thank you, SkyNacho, for pointing that out. (Looking for the Homer Simpson emoticon DOH!)


It's not foolproof. I often find that I don't quite line up the die in the negative and I end up not getting the cut quite right. But usually close enough, and closer than any other option.

With just the extra CS layer, I haven't had any problems with my CB, so you may not even need to try vellum. (Everyone's machine is different of course.) If the CS is too thick, don't waste your vellum-- printer paper will probably work.

But maybe vellum WOULD be good to see through. You could cut our your die, put the die back in, trace the die's outline, take the die out and then use both the negative AND the die outline to help you place the negative over your stamped image...

Gosh, I hope that makes sense. I can see it in my head!
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