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How To Make People stop uploading onto the Gallery......
I was cased..... which I consider a complement... HOWEVER.. This PERSON submitted it to SU as her Own Idea and it was featured on stampers showcase with her name.
People will stop posting great cards in the gallery if this keeps happening. I personally love getting Ideas from SCS. I have been a bit soured by this....... not to mention Hurt.
"Case away" is the way that most of us feel on SCS... we all like great Ideas. But give credit where it’s Due! Do not have poor manners and take credit for a creation that is not yours. I just can’t tell you how hard my heart sunk that MY Card layout, color and every thing were on there.
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Lisa,
I FULLY agree with you! I was also CASE'd 2 weeks ago, but here on the site and did not get credit either...super frustrating. It is easy to say..."Take it as a compliment"...but that doesnt make you feel better, especially when you work so hard to come up with a great card layout.
Give credit where credit is due!!!
__________________ Noelle
"If God brings you TO it, He will bring you THROUGH it!"
That is such a bummer! I am soooo sorry that it happened to you! You have the most wonderful cards! Don't stop posting here! Hopefully this won't happen again to anyone else! Maybe she will even let people know herself! I think it is wrong for people to claim someone else's ideas AND get that kind of recognition for it!
I'm sorry this happened to you but please don't be discouraged from posting your cards. You have lovely creations that are inspiring to many and I, for one, would hate to see you post less.
That stinks. I wonder if it was intentional---doesn't SC get some of their cards from swaps, etc., and not all of them mailed in? Either way, it is wrong and people shouldn't be making swap cards that are copies.
oh, swap cards, didn't think about that...
We do demo swaps once a month and I know a copy always goes to SU... (ofcoiurse, I never case for swaps, but I can see how that would happen...)
Happened to me last month. I saw a card in the stampers showcase that I created a year ago with Roses in winter. What can you do? I was upset as well...but at least we know we created the card. How sad really for the person that sends in cased cards. I would be too ashamed to do a thing like that.
I just uploaded a card in the flower garden section that I CASED from a print out a friend gave me. Don't know where she found it at, but I remember thinking did she get it from this site, so I looked in the flower garden section to make sure it wasn't there. If I ever load a card to this site and it was someone else's wonderful creation please let me know. Because I have lots of sample a friend gave me, and don't know where she got them. Before I load anything I will check in that section.
I don't upload a lot, but I know that when I sit down to stamp I unintentionally CASE. I know that in my subconscious are cards I've seen here in weeks and months past. Those ideas come out in one form or another!
So sorry you were blatantly case'd. I hope people give credit in the future!
too, if you are copying anything, just make a note of that in the notes section of your card description. Just say something like, I CASED this but I do not know who the original designer was... that way no one will be upset if you post it and you are honest with everyone who is going to see that card, If it is not noted then most people assume that you are the original designer and thereby run into trouble at times. Happy creating and casing all!
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How to make people stop uploading in the gallery
Lisa, I am so sorry to hear that your card was "plagiarized" oka, "cased w/o credit. That is so disheartening. I agree with all the previous posts. One of the things I love about SCS is that we can all share and encourage and uplift each other through our own creativity and ideas. Take heart in knowing that you are truly creative.
Ellena
I'm relatively new here and very nervous about posting now. I know I have not seen all the cards on here so whats to say I make a card that is similar to someone else's and don't even realize?
However, I do think credit should be given when due, so I'm sorry you didn't receive that. Keep up the great posts, it inspires all of us. I love this site and check it religiously for those reasons.
I was CASE'd too, however it wasn't to Stamper's Showcase, it was on another very popular website. This is the only place I post so I know my original was found here.
At Regional Events, Demonstrators often turn in their swap cards to Stampin' Up! which are then posted on the website. Even if a demonstrator puts the Cased information on the back of her card, it's not always posted on the website.
So this could be a situation of where she tried to give you credit, but was unable to do so. Mistakes do happen.
Just a "the glass is half full" thought here. I always hate to see demonstrators bashed publicly when we don't know the whole story...
That's awful to make such a beautiful card and have someone else take the credit on Stamper's Showcase. It's too bad that it happened to Beate also. It is very sad that someone wouldn't be secure enough in their own creativity to send an original work in.
I cased this card for a workshop last week. Everyone loved it. I usually try to let someone know when I liked their card enough to case it. This particular one was so pretty and well designed I just knew I'd have to make it.
Please keep up the good work, and don't be discouraged by what happened.
How do you all know that your card was case'd. Some of the cards in here have very similar concepts and same with the stuff that SU shows in the catalog.
Like in the SAB catalog, SU tore the middle of CS to reveal the word Friend on the scrapbook page, so that concept was case'd from SU for your card.
Seriously, I think we all need to relax, cuz sometimes I'll see cards on here that I had the same idea to do or did, that I don't remember seeing, nor did I post mine... but somehow similar cards are posted.
Go figure. Also, remember we make cards joyfully, not for recognition. Although it feels good to be recognized.
At Regional Events, Demonstrators often turn in their swap cards to Stampin' Up! which are then posted on the website. Even if a demonstrator puts the Cased information on the back of her card, it's not always posted on the website.
So this could be a situation of where she tried to give you credit, but was unable to do so. Mistakes do happen.
Just a "the glass is half full" thought here. I always hate to see demonstrators bashed publicly when we don't know the whole story...
Thats fine to CASE for those events...... just dont turn one into the SU basket!!!! Thats putting it out there for them to put into a publication or a convention board....... not to mention Stampers showcase. Its OK to swap..... just not submit it as your own!
How do you all know that your card was case'd. Some of the cards in here have very similar concepts and same with the stuff that SU shows in the catalog.
Like in the SAB catalog, SU tore the middle of CS to reveal the word Friend on the scrapbook page, so that concept was case'd from SU for your card.
Seriously, I think we all need to relax, cuz sometimes I'll see cards on here that I had the same idea to do or did, that I don't remember seeing, nor did I post mine... but somehow similar cards are posted.
Go figure. Also, remember we make cards joyfully, not for recognition. Although it feels good to be recognized.
Um...... did you see the Pictures? I made mine in the first week that the SAB sets were available....... I am with out a doubt that this was a CASE.
I dont care if in a WS my name is mentioned.... but to have it on the SU Website it a total "in your FACE!" She didn't even change the color combo!
Lisa, when I first started reading your post I too wondered how close to your creation it was. But... I saw the pictures... they were so obviously the same card. It was definitely CASE'd.
Ok, I come to SCS for ideas. I CASE alot. I use the ideas at my workshops. As I start a card I don't say...Ok, this card I CASE'd from Lisa Lisa" (just as an example). I do tell them that the cards I created are CASE'd though. But they are all members of SCS. If that is offensive to anyone... I want to know because I have no problem adding that bit of info. The ladies are just so excited to get started we just get going. I also have the SAME ladies at mine so they all know that they are CASE'd unless I say "I created this myself."
Ok, I would NEVER CASE for a swap. What's the point? I don't really want to join a swap and get a card that I can look at here on SCS. Do people do that?
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That card on stampers showcase doesn't look cased....it's the same exact card!
I pulled them both up next to each other.....you can tell by the placement of the brads, the tears, and the speckled background.
Hmmm...how could the exact same card be on there.
Did you send one to SU and they put the wrong name on it?
Obtaining color combo ideas, stamp combination ideas, layout ideas and mixing them all up and coming up with your own creation.
That is NOT casing. That is CREATING.
Casing is when you sit down. Like with Lisa Lisa's fabulous card. Sit with a color copy printout from your pc in front of you. Create a card pretty much as best you can just like it. Maybe even 'confusingly similar' to the original. That is CASING.
Submitting this CASED work to a magzine or business for possible publication/exultation of your work? Unacceptable.
In light of the volume of wonderful samples here, some 'takes' on originals can be seen as being 'derived' from another's work.
That is NOT what happened here.
Lesse, I would immediately get your original, send it with a sase to:
The Rubber Stamper
c/o Submissions
PO Box 102
Morganville, NJ 07751-0102
When time permits, make another and send it to:
Submissions
c/o The Stampers' Sampler
22992 Mill Creek, Ste B
Laguna Hills, CA 92653
Your work deserves to be in national publications with your name next to it in addition to here, not with someone else's name in the restricted SU demo idea section of the SU site.
Your work is beyond wonderful and a true inspiration to me personally.
I have posted this before, and I will post it again:
That card on stampers showcase doesn't look cased....it's the same exact card!
I pulled them both up next to each other.....you can tell by the placement of the brads, the tears, and the speckled background.
Hmmm...how could the exact same card be on there.
Did you send one to SU and they put the wrong name on it?
I was just going to say the exact same thing. This is the VERY same card. Did you send one for a RAK, or for a swap? WIERD!!
So sorry, Lisa. I'm sure you feel very violated.....
Hugs,
Alicia
That card on stampers showcase doesn't look cased....it's the same exact card!
I pulled them both up next to each other.....you can tell by the placement of the brads, the tears, and the speckled background.
Hmmm...how could the exact same card be on there.
Did you send one to SU and they put the wrong name on it?
Well it is a case since the one says Cherish and the other Thanks. It is just the moral issue of submitting your work to something like that and not stating that it is not an original work. :?
Duh! Keri, you're right.....I was looking at the pictures in Lisa's OP as both being her samples. When I went back and checked, I saw that one of them is from SS.
:oops:
That card on stampers showcase doesn't look cased....it's the same exact card!
I pulled them both up next to each other.....you can tell by the placement of the brads, the tears, and the speckled background.
Hmmm...how could the exact same card be on there.
Did you send one to SU and they put the wrong name on it?
I was just going to say the exact same thing. This is the VERY same card. Did you send one for a RAK, or for a swap? WIERD!!
So sorry, Lisa. I'm sure you feel very violated.....
Hugs,
Alicia
Thanks Alicia. I have only ever made one of these cards. Thats how I create.... jsut get going and out flows one card at a time. I still have it in a wrapper in my sample basket.
Cyndi..... What a sweet complement. I should sumbit it..... but now if it makes it.... I will look like the copycaser!
Lisa, I just wanted to tell you that when Lexicon of Love 1st came out and you started submitting all of your wonderful samples I loved everyone of them! I'm sorry this experience has soured you a bit to uploading here, but please don't stop. You are very talented and it would be a pity if you didn't share your art with the world!
That card on stampers showcase doesn't look cased....it's the same exact card!
I pulled them both up next to each other.....you can tell by the placement of the brads, the tears, and the speckled background.
Hmmm...how could the exact same card be on there.
Did you send one to SU and they put the wrong name on it?
One is the cherish stamp, the other the thanks stamp, and if you look in the middle of the blocks, Lisa lisa's has the big word only, the case has the big word with the little words around it.
Lisa,
I am so sorry that this happened. I can't imagine your frustration. I know that since I have joined this site that there have been so many wonderful cards that I have wanted to case, but also that I have been inspired here to create my own things.
Someone here once siad( Keri was it you) that there is nothing new under the sun. I have worried that perhaps something I upload will be a case. If I sit down with a picture that I have printed out of someone elses card, I usually end up changing it a bit, but I consider it cased and give credit because casing was my intension.
But now I rarely do that because so many ideas have come to me, however it is because I am inspired by this site? So I worry. Was it my idea, was I inspired by someone else? I feel that I am inspired by all and that many elements come from the wonderful things I see here.
If I case without credit I would appreciate a call on it, because it will never be my intension.
All that being said... Lisa your stuff is so worthy of being cased. TFS.
Cher
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Have you thought about contacting the person that submitted the card to SU or put a post on the SU site about it?
You do such great stuff, I love coming here for ideas or just to get motivated, it would be a shame if there weren't any more cards to look at.
kelli
Was it my idea, was I inspired by someone else? I feel that I am inspired by all and that many elements come from the wonderful things I see here.
If you sit with your beloved inks and stamps and paper and wonderful embellishments.
Sit and think.
And eat chocolate.
And create something that is in your head, whether it be an image from here or several images from here mixed up.
That is not casing.
I know some of you have photographic memories. I like to entertain myself by thinking I have a partial one. To quote the wonderful Robin Mower as best I can remember, "Most of us have photographic memories; we just don't have any film."
Could I look at a card/image, such as Lisa Lisa's fabulous creation, and re-create it next week from memory? NOT!
Could I study Lisa Lisa's image for a few minutes, then try tomorrow or the next day to recreate it? MAYBE.
But I would remember where I saw that image. This is my point. The card on S.Showcase is too confusingly similar to Lesse's card to be anything but a case IMHO.
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Originally Posted by Lisa Lisa
I should submit it..... but now if it makes it.... I will look like the copycaser!
My thoughts WHEN this fabulous card is published:
There are 30,000+ registered folks here on SCS.
Of the 40,000+ SU demos, how many are active? How many visit the SU showcase? And of that number, how many actively visit the SCS gallery?
You see my point.
Lisa Lisa, we all know the truth. You ROCK GIRL!!!
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One of the reasons that I don't post everything that I make on SCS is because it is a case or so similar that to me it seems like a waste of my time to post something that has already been posted. I don't use SCS as my personal website like it seems so many people do. I use SCS as a source of inspiration.
Lisa, I am so sorry that someone would do this to you. By now, they more than likely know that the SCS community is outraged and hopefully they feel like dog-doo for being so inconsiderate and selfish. I hope you feel better knowing that so many people are supporting you and enjoy the wonderful work that you do.