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Old 05-16-2019, 01:51 PM   #1  
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Anyone else hesitate to use products that have these warnings?

CALIFORNIA PROP 65 – American Crafts

I've read a bit and I'm still not clear if there is a danger from handling them (obviously I would not hold any in my mouth:-) I just bought the cutest paper and chipboard set to make my new nephew a baby book, and the chipboard came with that warning and now I really hesitate!
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Short answer: no, I would not hesitate to use these products.

The California regulation is an err-on-the-side-of-caution type of thing. The portion of the information that you linked to that is telling (at least to me) was, "assuming daily exposure for a lifetime". I'm guessing that it's going to take a lot more exposure than we would get from cutting up paper to cause us any kind of problem. Yes, that's over-simplifying but you take my point, right?

I think that, as with most things like this, common sense and personal preference come into play. If you're nervous, stay away. If you aren't, plow ahead. I've played with considerably more hazardous materials and tools than those American Crafts puts out, as have many of us, I'm sure.
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Short answer: no, I would not hesitate to use these products.

The California regulation is an err-on-the-side-of-caution type of thing. The portion of the information that you linked to that is telling (at least to me) was, "assuming daily exposure for a lifetime". I'm guessing that it's going to take a lot more exposure than we would get from cutting up paper to cause us any kind of problem. Yes, that's over-simplifying but you take my point, right?

I think that, as with most things like this, common sense and personal preference come into play. If you're nervous, stay away. If you aren't, plow ahead. I've played with considerably more hazardous materials and tools than those American Crafts puts out, as have many of us, I'm sure.

yeah, I think I tend to agree with you, thank you! I might be overthinking a wee bit because it's about a baby
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Just don't let the baby eat it... ;)
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The thing with the California warning (as I understand it) is that there are big fines to companies that don't post the warning if they should. So companies have gone the other direction and posted that warning on anything that might, maybe, possibly require it. Because they won't be fined if they post it on an item that doesn't contain those chemicals, but they could be fined if they don't post it on something that does.
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The thing with the California warning (as I understand it) is that there are big fines to companies that don't post the warning if they should. So companies have gone the other direction and posted that warning on anything that might, maybe, possibly require it. Because they won't be fined if they post it on an item that doesn't contain those chemicals, but they could be fined if they don't post it on something that does.

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The thing with the California warning (as I understand it) is that there are big fines to companies that don't post the warning if they should. So companies have gone the other direction and posted that warning on anything that might, maybe, possibly require it. Because they won't be fined if they post it on an item that doesn't contain those chemicals, but they could be fined if they don't post it on something that does.


Yep. Sometimes they're posted in the windows of restaurants too!
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Nope. I don't take anything from California seriously. I also think there are way too many warnings on stuff that is ridiculous. People just need to use common sense. ;)
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Yep. Sometimes they're posted in the windows of restaurants too!
Truly, is it really? You have seen this?!
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They even require it to be posted on the ingredients of the green smoothie powder that contains organic greens, organic vanilla and organic cinnamon. Hey, the air we breathe is more toxic than any of that, including the chipboard
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I've found soft pastels have that warning too, no matter the brand. I bought one set & discovered this--it was all wrapped tight in plastic. I thought, MAYBE it was because it was a cheaper brand, so I bought a more expensive brand, that was supposed to be "green." It wasn't wrapped up tight, but had the same warning. :/
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Poppy isnt that book going to the parents? The baby is too little to appreciate it yet....by the time he is, he wont be trying to eat it right?
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That CA Prop 65 in on a huge percentage of the stuff you pick up in Walmart, Target, etc etc etc (start reading labels/fine print) - I just say "glad I don't live in CA; this causes cancer in CA" !!! ......like someone said, just don't let the baby eat it (or probably half of what IS considered food, lol)
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Poppy isnt that book going to the parents? The baby is too little to appreciate it yet....by the time he is, he wont be trying to eat it right?

Yes but shouldn't the parents be protected from cancer too?! :razz: I have no idea if just touching these items is the risk or whatever which is why I posted...
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I can’t remember what it was but I found that warning on the most innocuous product the other day. I was amazed. My son asked the same question as the warning was on some paints he was using.

It was something something with adhesive on the back like Washi tape. Yep, pretty sure it was Washi. So seriously? Washi needs a warning? Ridiculous. I think the only purpose such a wide sweeping warning serves is to make us ignore it. Which may in turn lead to ignoring other warnings which may be more serious. Maybe if you chewed it like tabaccy for many years but normal use it’s perfectly fine.
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Yup, I just saw that warning on a new roll of washi tape. My friend and I were trying to figure out what might be hazardous about washi tape—the paper? The adhesive? Only if you eat it?
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I wonder if the ink used to print the warning is cancer causing? ;)
Does the warning to list any reference to get the facts about how it supposedly causes cancer? Most likely not, because there isn't enough scientific data to back it up.
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Warnings may also take into consideration the chemicals used in production, which are often dangerous and can affect ground water. I do feel that we should be more aware. Plastics and petroleum are huge health problems. The life span in the US has decreased, so at least thinking about the relationship between chemicals and health is a start.
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As I mentioned in my first response on this thread, the warning states "assuming daily exposure over a lifetime". I doubt that any of us are exposed daily to whatever-it-is, and certainly not "for a lifetime". That being said, Jackie makes a good point about being aware of potential hazards that could affect future generations/the planet in general/etc., even if the hazard isn't immediate or acute.

My thought here is pretty much my philosophy in general (be it food, politics, religion, crafts or anything else): moderation in all things. Extremes in either direction skew health - physical and/or mental - and interaction with our fellow beings...
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Just more government control just tell them to stay out of our crafts its none of their business and CA maybe should encourage more people to craft they wouldn't have so many problems. Crafters are happy people.
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Zoedog, I agree. Land of the free??? By all means, let's craft and forget the politics. BTW,I am a Californian ( not by birth) and I do tend to ignore their scare tactics. Everything is carcinogenic to the government, including the government.
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For people with Chronic illness, cancer or immune system challenges, this information may be important (I know a number of people, or children, in this situation). A less frequent exosure than that described on the warning, may be an issue for them. I feel that it is good to be considerate of the challenges that others face. If the warning bothers you, it is easy to ignore.
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Heck no. Breathing can kills us for gosh sakes.
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Does the warning to list any reference to get the facts about how it supposedly causes cancer? Most likely not, because there isn't enough scientific data to back it up.

Yeah no other information – not very helpful:( I'm thinking it's the ink through your skin or something…
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We are at a point that no matter what you do they say something is going to hurt you. We teach our young people to be afraid of LIFE and that is going to destroy their lives faster than the warnings. Common sense goes a long way. Next they will be taking my trimmer and scissors away from me. How many of those people and kids craft that you mention?
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My grandchildren grew up crafting and being around my STUFF and they are fine and I have gave hundreds of cards to others and the only thing they got from my cards is joy and knowing that someone cared for them to take the time to make a home made card that had a note inside saying I was thinking and praying for them or wishing them a happy birthday or something. Government stay out of our lives!
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Yup, I just saw that warning on a new roll of washi tape. My friend and I were trying to figure out what might be hazardous about washi tape—the paper? The adhesive? Only if you eat it?

Apparently it's not a good idea to wear it, either <G>

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Warnings may also take into consideration the chemicals used in production, which are often dangerous and can affect ground water. I do feel that we should be more aware. Plastics and petroleum are huge health problems. The life span in the US has decreased, so at least thinking about the relationship between chemicals and health is a start.
Problem is, the warnings don’t tell us what chemicals they are, what amount of exposure is considered safe and there’s nothing about the environmental impact. I’d certainly choose brands that are more environmentally friendly or healthier if that info was available but that’s not on the label. Just the cancer warning.
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I'ts really silly. If everything has a warning how can people differentiate the things that really are likely to harm you?
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