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Old 05-14-2019, 06:40 AM   #1  
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I’m considering alcohol markers. I watched an SU demo and it shows the markers do bleed thru SU paper.
Do these bleed thru Neenah 110#?
What makes a cardstock “bleed proof”.....weight only?
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The alcohol markers will bleed through most any real paper. I took a class from a Copic demonstrator and while she recommended Neenah as one of her favorites because of it's finish, I think most people have been using the artifical papers like Yupo. I'm sure others will be of more help with this than I can be in that regard.
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Actually, you are quite helpful!
I recall people commenting Gina K might be more alcohol friendly.
Guess I just need to get over the soaking thru.
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My fave is X-Press Blending, a Copic branded cardstock. Neenah Classic Crest is my favorite all purpose cardstock (and I love Elizabeth Craft also), and 110 is really good for alcohol markers, but X-Press is the cat’s meow, though more expensive. We used several different types in a class to see - and feel - the difference. I’m blanking on the other one. It was less expensive but also nice - will have to look at my notes.

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Actually, many cardstocks and papers that are alcohol friendly do have bleed-through. It is a result of the ink being absorbed into the paper, which is supposed to happen. "Alcohol friendly" means that the ink will not wick outside the are where you color, and that you can blend easily on it. I know that the Gina K heavy-weight cardstock isn't supposed to have any bleed-through, but I don't know how well you can blend with it.
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There is meant to be a bleed through to the back, Crafters Companion recommend it when using their alcohol pens, if no bleed through they say the colours don't blend properly. There should be YouTube videos demonstrating this.
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People who like one layer cards often use Neenah 120 (110?) lb paper so it doesn’t bleed through. But if you add enough ink it will still bleed eventually. I use xpress it paper and it usually bleeds through. I disagree though that a blend cannot happen without bleed through. Depends on the paper.
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People who like one layer cards often use Neenah 120 (110?) lb paper so it doesn’t bleed through. But if you add enough ink it will still bleed eventually. I use xpress it paper and it usually bleeds through. I disagree though that a blend cannot happen without bleed through. Depends on the paper.
^^ That. And yes, Neenah Classic Crest (not Exact Index) 110.

Or often use alcohol markers on a card front that’s attach to a base so bleed-through doesn’t matter.
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It might be different for copics as I have never used those, but Sara Davies owner of Crafters Companion talks about getting a good 'saturation' of colour to make her Spectrum Noir alcohol pens blend. This is a link to a demo by Leann Chivers one of her demonstrators

And one from Hedgehog Hollow


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What's the verdict on Bristol Smooth? That's what I use.
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What's the verdict on Bristol Smooth? That's what I use.
If it is to use with copics this might help.
https://www.copicmarker.com/blogs/co...-copic-markers
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A good Copic/alc marker card should bleed thru to the back. It shows the ink is blending well. What you don't want is for the ink to bleed laterally, i.e. outside of the lines.

I use Xerox colotech gold 250gsm and have used it for nearly 10yrs. I love it. It allows me to lay down quite a few layers of colour without it bleeding out.

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Art Paper Testing With Copic Markers [Video] | Copic


THANK YOU rosemarymci! This was VERY INFORMATIVE! ;)

I remember someone saying that SU white paper was good for Copics/alcohol markers. That might be an option too, although, NOW I would "test it" like this video to know for sure!
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A good Copic/alc marker card should bleed thru to the back. It shows the ink is blending well. What you don't want is for the ink to bleed laterally, i.e. outside of the lines.

I use Xerox colotech gold 250gsm and have used it for nearly 10yrs. I love it. It allows me to lay down quite a few layers of colour without it bleeding out.


Is the Xerox Colotech gold expensive? Where do you get it? The Office Supply?
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Copics SHOULD bleed through to the back of your paper. That's how they get good saturation and makes them easily blendable.

What you don't want is for them to feather outside the lines of your image.
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My fave is X-Press Blending, a Copic branded cardstock. Neenah Classic Crest is my favorite all purpose cardstock (and I love Elizabeth Craft also), and 110 is really good for alcohol markers, but X-Press is the cat’s meow, though more expensive. We used several different types in a class to see - and feel - the difference. I’m blanking on the other one. It was less expensive but also nice - will have to look at my notes.

Just my take - JMMV.


I like the X-Press a lot, too. I think Ellen Hutson has the best price (at least of what I've seen, though I haven't shopped around for it much).
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I also use Bristol Smooth.
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I use Bristol Smooth Vellum exclusively with Copics - and love it!
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