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Old 10-09-2005, 01:39 PM   #1  
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Red face Are All Square Punches Alike?

I've been searching this site for the answer to a question I have about square punches. I'm not sure that I found a "concrete" answer. I would like to get two sizes of square punches to make window cards, and also for layering purposes. I called a company and asked how far their McGill square punches reached so the "window" doesn't end up at the very top of my card. She told me that ALL square punches, even the Stampin' Up ones, reach the same distance and that Marvy makes the Stampin' Up punches and that they'd be no different and would reach no further. If it's true that ALL square punches reach the same distance in from the edge of a card, then can "window" cards be made from square punches - no matter what company made them? She told me she's been in the business for over 15 years and she's had many complaints on why they don't make 'long reaching' punches for square and round so people can make descent looking "window" cards. (The only reason I'm looking at punches other than Stampin' Up is because I want a bigger "window" and a little more space to show off the layers. Can anyone enlighten me on this?
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Old 10-09-2005, 01:57 PM   #2  
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The reach may be the same, but not all punches are equal. I find the SU punches easy on my hands. some of the punches I bought in the past are really hard to punch through thick cardstock. I don't like to use them, I love using my SU punches.
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With regards to the reaching distances of most punches large enough for windows, I'd say, just by comparing all the punches I've purchased over the years, that what the lady told you is most likely true, generally speaking.

I have some very large McGill and Marvy punches that feature 2", 2 1/2" squares, that still do not reach as far as I wish for making window cards.

The only other alternative is to use:

1. Craft knife, to get the approximate size where you want it--I resort to this only as last resort as I am exceedingly lazy

2. Coluzzle template or similar shape cuttting system to get the size and location where you want it--I invested in these because I like the price and ease of storage/transport and they are always coming out with new templates

3. Pre-fabricated window cards (www.memoryboxco.com , for retail visit www.impressrubberstamps.com ) Great, but not always available in the size + color I want, and can be costly

4. Dye cutting machine with dies that are designed to make window cards (these come in both traditional die cutting AND in the new computer/laser type, but these last ones are considerably expensive)--I can't afford either of these and would have no space to store them even if I had one.
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Good question as I wondered this too. I'm terrible with a craft knife. Ugh.
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. . . and that Marvy makes the Stampin' Up punches and that they'd be no different
Actually Paper Shapers/EK Success is the manufacturer of the SU! lever style punches.
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...and they seem to have an amazing range of both square and circle punches that go from 1/4 inch all the way to 13/8 (square) and I think 1 1/2 inch circle. Trouble is I ended up ordering rather a lot of them ...just in case. For layering it seems that 1/8 inch difference is about right.
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I actually just saw, in AC Moore, the "Whale of a Punch" (EK Success) punches with a new addition of a 1" punch that would coordinate with SU's 1 1/4" punch really well. It's the same design (gray with a lever) and will definitely reach farther than the CM punches or the Marvy. I'm spending a coupon on that one!
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The Creative Memories square punches have no range at all and I wished I would have saved my money and bought the SU kind! They are ok for layering but are hard to punch.
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AT Wal-Mart I saw that Fiskars now carries an Anywhere Punch that has several dies you can put in for different shapes. However, the dies look much smaller than the squares that most companies carry. This may help you out.

A friend also taught me to make 'anywhere squares' using my fiskars/SU trimmer. Since it has measurements on it, you can cut 1" sides anywhere on the paper. much more work than a punch! (It's also how we realized how crooked my old Fiskars trimmer was cutting! Her square, well, it wasn't square!).
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Lori,

You must have MY Fiskars trimmer. Nothing I cut is perfectly squared up. :(

I'm going to have to invest in one of those Carl Cutters, I think....
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The Creative Memories square punches have no range at all and I wished I would have saved my money and bought the SU kind! They are ok for layering but are hard to punch.

totally agree....they are terrific for layering, so I am going to live with them and maybe buy the SU circle punches for getting "deeper" into the card front...
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i must unfortunately agree with whats been said about CM punches...they are good for punching out the shapes and are relativly easy to use however they are much better suited to scrapbooking...and not general crafting/stamping. i find its hard to use them to make anything but a shape that's about a quarter inch from the edge of the paper. my bf's mom is a CM consultant and has all the shape makers they sell....and i must say they work wonderfully for what she does in her workshops but not for a stamper. anyhow i hth your decision. i have had to learn to get handy with a craft knife for those window cards!...practice makes perfect
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The Creative Memories square punches have no range at all and I wished I would have saved my money and bought the SU kind! They are ok for layering but are hard to punch.

I totally agree. While I generally like my CM punches, the fact that the range is only so far really annoys me. I am a HUGE fan of the Whale of a Punch brand and the SU ones being the same I am thinking of trading mine in for the SU ones.
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Wow, I've never seen McGill square punches that go up to two inches and larger!! The biggest I've found has been 1 7/8".
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