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Old 09-19-2008, 03:38 PM   #1
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I usually watercolour with a blender pen and SU! classic ink from the lid of the ink pads but I have found lately that I need more shades of colours than SU provide.

What is your preference to watercolour with?

I thought about Copic markers but I do like my style of watercolouring with waterbased inks and figure I can't mix both mediums.... do Tombow markers and SU ink work together? Tombow have quite a few colours to choose from so I am wondering if anyone has tried using them together and if they work. Also, can you use Tombows with an SU blender pen???

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Old 09-19-2008, 03:53 PM   #2
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If I'm not mistaken, Tombow makes SU's watercolor pens (not the crayons).

Copics is alcohol ink. I think you can use them together, as long as the watercolor ink has dried thoroughly. I have not used them together but I've seen the copics used for highlighting.

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Hey Amy... here's my thoughts...

if you are looking for a watercolor look, you probably don't want to use the Copic markers to just color with. BUT, you can watercolor first with your inks and once it dries you can add interesting color (shadows or highlights) with your Copics... (As long as you haven't used StazOn ink... that will probably smear with the Copics.) You can layer almost any different type of coloring medium for some neat looks.

The tombow markers would give you the same "watercolor" look if you rub them on a sheet of plastic and pick up the ink with a water brush... but graciez is right.. I think Tombow makes the SU markers... so you might not have a much bigger color selection.

Something you might try...I've not done this...

Watercolor with your inks as usual. Let it dry completely, and then take a Copic marker and rub in on plastic (or add a few drops from a reinker) and then pick it up with a water brush filled with alcohol or blending solution and paint that over the image. Who knows... it might just give you even more pop!

(I have painted with the Copics and alcohol in a blender... and you can get the same effect from regular alcohol inks if you want to use the "painting" technique. I've just never tried to do it over regular watercolored images.)

Hope that helps. Let us know how it turns out!
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:40 AM   #4
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Wow I didn't realise that Tombow made the SU markers... that would explain why there are similar colours. I have decided that I don't really want to go with the Copics... does anyone know if there is another brand of waterbased markers like Tombow that have a good variety of colours? I intend on using my blender to pick up the colour rather than direct to paper.
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:38 AM   #5
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Tombow comes in 96 colors..defenitely a few more colors to complement the SU markers if you need more colors.
http://new.penwa.com/index.php?p=pro...8020&parent=29
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I just wanted to say that I think you've made the right decision in sticking with waterbased markers. They're the closest thing to using an ink pad and blender pen, they're less expensive than Copics, and they don't contain solvents like Copics do, so you don't have to worry about what you're inhaling. Who knows what harm the solvents in those pens can do to a person over time???

I use Tombows myself and I don't know of another company that makes waterbased markers with the range of colours that Tombow has. If I don't have the exact shade I need, I make it myself by combining the ink from a couple Tombow markers, or I get out my watercolour paints and do the same thing... mix colours until I get the shade I want.

There's a lady by the name of Krista Schneider who uses Tombows for watercolouring and her work is amazing. My local stamp store used to sell her step-by-step workbook, called Simple Watercolor Projects, demonstrating how to colour using Tombows and there are blank pages for you to practice on.

She has her own stamp line called Sunshine Designs...

http://www.sunshinedesigns.ca/whatsn...shine_designs/

She also has a new website that is still under construction. Perhaps when it's finished, there will be some of her artwork on there for you to see, that was done with Tombow markers.

http://www.kristaschneider.com/Default.aspx


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I have a silly question...how can we find out which Tombow marker corresponds to it's SU! marker so that duplication in ordering doesn't happen? It's hard to tell just by looking at the colors listed on the website.

Btw - DickBlick.com sells them individually. I couldn't find them individually on the site listed above as I would just want to add to my SU! markers.
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Thats a good idea Cyndi... I have just been holding the SU marker to the brochure but its hard to tell because the colour swatches are so tiny!
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We had Krista Schneider in at our store last weekend to teach her marvelous techniques of water coloring. We carry both of her books and our customers just love the new Christmas stamps. In the new year, our store will be teaching the water coloring techniques of Tombow markers, and fyi there are more than 96 colors of tombows, so many to choose from. I am not a fan of the blender pen, because I use the taklon #2 & #4 filbert brushes for blending.

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What kind of ink do you use with tombows.
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The water-based Tim Holtz Distress pens are very good. Easy color blending.
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When I stamp my image, what kind of ink pad should I use - Staz - on?
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