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Unread 03-18-2017, 05:01 AM   #1
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Default SU Whisper White vs Neenah Solar White Super Smooth

I am almost out of Whisper White, and SU takes so long to ship. I found some Neenah Solar White #80 Super Smooth on Amazon and am wondering if it is similar. I am not using it for coloring with Copics, just stamping.

Classic Crest Super Smooth Solar White 80# Cover

If this is not a similar paper, what would be?

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Unread 03-18-2017, 05:14 AM   #2
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Robin, I can't compare the two papers, but Tupelo is selling Neenah Classic Crest Solar White (80 lb) reams for $31.50, and they don't charge shipping. I just bought a ream from them and have purchased from the before. Very nice people too. (I generally use 110 for bases, 80 for stamping.) https://www.tupelodesignsllc.com/pro...kg-solar-white

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I love Neenah paper. However, I hate the new SU whisper white. I think it is too slick. The old whisper white matched Neenah Avalanche White and that is what I used to buy until I learned that Solar white was available in the 110# version. However, I checked out the Neenah site a week ago and it looks like Avalanche may be available in the heavy version too. You can order samples from them; that may be your best bet to get an exact match and make sure you like the feel of Neenah.
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I love Neenah paper. However, I hate the new SU whisper white. I think it is too slick. The old whisper white matched Neenah Avalanche White and that is what I used to buy until I learned that Solar white was available in the 110# version. However, I checked out the Neenah site a week ago and it looks like Avalanche may be available in the heavy version too. You can order samples from them; that may be your best bet to get an exact match and make sure you like the feel of Neenah.
Great point - and the sample sheets are quite large since they're for companies' commercial use - to have printers test papers for brochures, etc.

They'll also send you a swatch book so you can see/feel all of the colors/surfaces/weights, though of course the swatches are small.
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I didn't know SU had changed Whisper White. I am sure mine is the old version, because I haven't had to buy it in a long time. I'm really looking for a lighter weight, coated. Not a card base weight. All of your helpful answers have confused me. Do I want #80 or #110 pound? Do I want the Avalanche or the Solar? Help! !
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It's a matter of personal taste so the sample CS and swatch book will help. My sense is that many people use Neenah Classic Crest 110 for bases and 80 for the layer you're stamping and doing techniques on that you'd put on a heavier base, following card makers like Jennifer McGuire. Both stamp extremely well.

Solar White is mentioned more than other whites but if Avalanche White matches your SU color you like, you can look at both by getting the swatch book from Neenah.

Because the sample sheets are so large, they don't fit in a smalll box and there is shipping. But you get a lot of paper to play with. The swatch book is small and very handy for all colors; I don't know what the charge is to ship just that. The good news is it will most likely be obvious to you which you like best after you get that.

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i really like the Neenah Classic Crest Solar White 80# for stamping It is a very smooth card stock but if you are looking for coated like SU Whisper White, I am not sure this one is coated. I ordered from Tupelo and received it quickly.
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Thanks for all the comments. Still scratching my head. Guess I'll order something and see, or get the swatch book.

Or order Whisper White and just wait. I just found one more pack in a drawer so the situation is now less dire.
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80 lb solar is of course lighter than 110-which is heavy and I use for base card stock.

If you would like to give me your address in PM, I will be happy to send you both solars-80 and 110 to compare while you still have some WW.
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I've heard SU's WW had changed. There has been mention that it isn't as smooth as it used to be. I love the smoothness of WW. I'm afraid to order a new pack. I think their envelopes changed too.

I loved Their smooth envelopes!! Just a little guilty pleasure!

I've been wanting to post a question about this and asking for any thoughts on alternative options for both products.
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I ordered some. So I can compare them. I also ordered a swatch book from Neenah, so I can compare those. I don't order much from SU, but WW and VV have always been part of my go-to stamping arsenal. If they've changed for the worse, I'll have to find a replacement.
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I'm new to copics...I've searched all of the Neenah threads.
I really want to buy a ream of paper, but which one.
I think Neenah makes solar white in smooth, super smooth, index, crest...maybe another one...I'll get the 80# for layering and the 110# for card base.
But which Neenah????
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I'm new to copics...I've searched all of the Neenah threads.
I really want to buy a ream of paper, but which one.
I think Neenah makes solar white in smooth, super smooth, index, crest...maybe another one...I'll get the 80# for layering and the 110# for card base.
But which Neenah????
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Classic Crest. Exact Index is the lower quality the big box office supply stores sell.

If anyone ever forgets which Neenah to buy, you can just google Jennifer McGuire Neenah. One of her many videos where she uses it will pop up with a link to the correct type. Not that you have to use her link - sometimes other shops will have better deals, like Tupelo Designs, Amazon, etc.

Or if you want to try a small pack I think Ellen Hutson sells it.
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Thank you so much
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I'm off to order me some paper!
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I have the sample book for the Classic Crest line. Here's what I see in the different papers mentioned above.

Neenah Classic Crest comes in smooth and super smooth in these four colors:
...Avalanche White...Solar White...Avon Brilliant White...Classic Natural White.
The super smooth is definitely smoother than the smooth (the standard finish)...even though the smooth is pretty smooth! It doesn't feel as smooth or slick as the SU whisper white that I have on hand. I don't know if what I have is what you all say is "old" versus "new". However, it is pretty darn close!

None of the papers you are discussing are coated. Just finished VERY smooth.

I find that the SU paper is closer in color to the Solar White, or between Solar White and Avon. Avalanche White is about as bright as you can get at 99+. Solar White is 97. Avon is 93.

Classic Natural White is really close to SU very Vanilla.

For the quality and uniformity and the lack of guesswork, I would stay with the Classic Crest line, and avoid the other lines like Exact. It comes in Writing, Text, Cover, and Double Thick Cover. You want to stay with the cover range. Most of us use 80# cover and 110# or 100# cover.

The only other line I buy from is the Environment line, where they have a luscious "kraft" color called Desert Storm. The quality far exceeds any other "kraft" paper I have ever tried.
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