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Old 01-28-2012, 10:02 PM   #2841
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I missed out on a 72 count tin of Prismas on eBay. They went for $43. Shucks.
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I think Amazon has them for 50
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Prismacolor color wheel. Check this out!

MAKING A MARK: Janet Couture's Prismacolor Colour Wheel
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I really like that wheel. I must admit that I don't ever use charts or anything LOL..I just grab a pencil and go. I do keep a scrap piece of whatever paper I am using next to my image or drawing to check values and such, but mostly I have used them so often that I know what color I want when I go looking..well for basic things anyway.. I probably should utilize a color chart more though..
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I really like that wheel. I must admit that I don't ever use charts or anything LOL..I just grab a pencil and go. I do keep a scrap piece of whatever paper I am using next to my image or drawing to check values and such, but mostly I have used them so often that I know what color I want when I go looking..well for basic things anyway.. I probably should utilize a color chart more though..
I didn't use to either, but last summer I was reading and studying like crazy trying to teach myself watercolor painting and improve my Prisma coloring. Everything I read said to use the wheel, and I thought, "hmm where have I been? As I began using it, I found that I am more adventurous in my color combinations. I think it helps make up for the lack of much formal training or natural talent.

I've seen your drawings. You are a real artist, with extraordinary talent Inkin One, and probably don't need the crutch. It's just intuitive to you.
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Thank you Carole....that really means a lot to me.Sometimes I wonder why I even have a blog..or why anyone would even need to see it LOL..( having a bad day just look over me HA!)..but then I get some really super sweet comments..and that makes it all worth it again. I try.and trust me I do have my fair share of "Why did I do that?"...they are in a pile ..HAHA..
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So I've been mulling my hair blending technique, and since I only have the Koh-I-Noor plus a few Prismas for skin, I decided to buy a few Prismas over at Dick Blick. I bought a black, three warm gray, a few French gray, a few of the brown tones, nectar, and a few more that I can't think of right now. But I found the price of 99 cents addicting, I had to stop myself from adding more. My dh would murder me considering how much I've been spending on this new hobby! The shipping is high though, but I couldn't find a great deal locally so I still saved since I didn't have to pay for sales tax. Now, they just have to get here soon!
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Dick Blick is great to order from. Your pencils will be there before you know it! And, just fyi, if the Prisma price is too high for you, Dick Blick's Studio pencils are pretty good, too and quite a bit cheaper - not quite as smooth as Prismas - but a nice substitute to get more colors quickly.
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So I've been mulling my hair blending technique, and since I only have the Koh-I-Noor plus a few Prismas for skin, I decided to buy a few Prismas over at Dick Blick. I bought a black, three warm gray, a few French gray, a few of the brown tones, nectar, and a few more that I can't think of right now. But I found the price of 99 cents addicting, I had to stop myself from adding more. My dh would murder me considering how much I've been spending on this new hobby! The shipping is high though, but I couldn't find a great deal locally so I still saved since I didn't have to pay for sales tax. Now, they just have to get here soon!
I have never used the Koh-I-Nors..but I do LOVE and use their Rapidograph pens frequently...so I am sure the quality of their pencils is great. Are they creamy or waxy? That will make all the difference in how you blend them...I am a pencil hoarder..LOL..so I always enable others! You can do quiet a bit of blending and creating with the few you have. May I suggest looking on ebay and maybe at you local craft stores for when you have a coupon and get a decent sized set of them. It doesn't have to be the biggest they make because in all honesty if you aren't producing large scale pieces for sale ( which I do sometimes) or using your pencils as your only coloring medium ( I use them and water color pencils)then you probably will never need 5 yellows..or 6 purples. ( This comming from a woman that has upwards of 500 coloring pencils )...Buy a smaller set..maybe 36..then just fill in the colors you need..the greys and skin tones are a great place to start..

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I have never used the Koh-I-Nors..but I do LOVE and use their Rapidograph pens frequently...so I am sure the quality of their pencils is great. Are they creamy or waxy? That will make all the difference in how you blend them...I am a pencil hoarder..LOL..so I always enable others! You can do quiet a bit of blending and creating with the few you have. May I suggest looking on ebay and maybe at you local craft stores for when you have a coupon and get a decent sized set of them. It doesn't have to be the biggest they make because in all honesty if you aren't producing large scale pieces for sale ( which I do sometimes) or using your pencils as your only coloring medium ( I use them and water color pencils)then you probably will never need 5 yellows..or 6 purples. ( This comming from a woman that has upwards of 500 coloring pencils )...Buy a smaller set..maybe 36..then just fill in the colors you need..the greys and skin tones are a great place to start..

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Hi ladies! I'm still waiting for my Prismas, but in the meanwhile, I just realized my Koh-I-Noor pencils are oil based. Does that mean I can't blend them with OMS, and use my Prismas with them??? I'm so confused.
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Hi ladies! I'm still waiting for my Prismas, but in the meanwhile, I just realized my Koh-I-Noor pencils are oil based. Does that mean I can't blend them with OMS, and use my Prismas with them??? I'm so confused.
I don't have any, but I know you can blend them with OMS, and I know people mix them with Prismas. Gina K. has a tutorial on them. I saw it when I was looking at her Prisma stuff.

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A Day in the Life: Koh-i-noor pencil tutorial, Paper piercing tutorial and Ultra clean!
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Thanks for the links! I'm reinspired....
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I just got 2 new stamps from Northwoods. They are a Prisma-lover's dream! I want more of them...MANY MANY more

I'm pretty happy with my coloring on this one. The only thing I want to improve on is lines on the tulips. Next time I want to get it blended better with more light in some areas. I put the color swatches on my blog along with the progress of this card.

I'd love to know how to do the color swatches better. I used the Prisma website like Dini suggested, but the only way I could think to capture them was print screen, paste into photo shop, cut out the color I wanted and paste each into a new photoshop document. Whew! That is way too time consuming to do very often. Got any ideas or suggestions
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I love their stamps! Wish they would sell cling or unmounted rubber. :P
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I love their stamps! Wish they would sell cling or unmounted rubber. :P
Me too Dini! I feel like it's such a waste to pay for the wood and its shipping if I'm going to unmount them anyway. I also kinda hate to unmount them... they are so pretty giggles!

Please take a look at the color swatch on my blog and let me know what you think.
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Really like your image sc magnolia. Are you going to post your Northwood stamp?
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Really like your image sc magnolia. Are you going to post your Northwood stamp?
Thank you! I posted them in my gallery and on my blog. I lLOVE Northwoods images!!! I MUST have more

I have the most fun coloring them.

My name is Carole and I am a stampaholic.

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Does anyone know if the new Prismacolor colors can be purchased in a set anywhere? I've only seen them available open stock so far...
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Hi Kathy! I haven't seen a set yet.
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Hi Dina! That's what I figured, but I'm having a hard time ordering them because I don't want to pay $8 for shipping at Dick Blick just for colored pencils. It seems like all the art supply stores have really high shipping.
What about another source, with better shipping rates? Any ideas?

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Have you checked at HobbyLobby.com? This week they have shipping at 2.14. I'm not sure if you can buy open stock online though.
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Yes, you can buy singles, but they are 1.99 each. It also looks like they aren't the new colors. Sorry.
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the sets with new colors are out online. amazon has it for $181 but not their free shipping.

jerry's artarama online has them for $148.50 just like dick blick. that is a really good price even once you add the $8 shipping. of course what i always do is pay the $2 extra dollars to bump it up to 2 day shipping cuz i am impatient and i feel like it makes the cost of the shipping more worth it
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I don't need the entire set with the new colors, just the new colors. I have all the other Prisma's. Looks like I'm just going to have to suck it up and pay the high shipping...
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They are only .99 each at Dick Blick
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OOOHHH i see. yea i bought the singles at dick blick too
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Didn't one of you say that you got a Prisma so badly broken inside that you sharpened and sharpened and in days it was teeny- and that you sent it back and were given a new pencil

I got out a brand new chartreuse green yesterday and it just kept breaking and breaking. After trying to use it again this morning, it now needs a pencil extender.


Do I send it back to Prisma? or the store where I got it? (which is in Denver)
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Didn't one of you say that you got a Prisma so badly broken inside that you sharpened and sharpened and in days it was teeny- and that you sent it back and were given a new pencil

I got out a brand new chartreuse green yesterday and it just kept breaking and breaking. After trying to use it again this morning, it now needs a pencil extender.


Do I send it back to Prisma? or the store where I got it? (which is in Denver)
I would try the store first. If you don't get results with them..then go with contacting Prisma...That would aggravte me..and I am positive that particular color was the most perfect for what you needed? It always happens that way LOL
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I tried putting some of my pencils in the oven, I would not use the micro wave as the printing on the outside of the pencil is metallic, and it stopped breaking. One pencil did crack from end to end but it still works. It was 350 for about 4 minutes.

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I tried putting some of my pencils in the oven, I would not use the micro wave as the printing on the outside of the pencil is metallic, and it stopped breaking. One pencil did crack from end to end but it still works. It was 350 for about 4 minutes.

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I bought another one at Hobby Lobby yesterday and guess what? Well I remembered reading somewhere to glue the broken point back in with super glue, use and sharpen as usual. I tried it and it worked!

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Sorry for asking a few dumb questions but I've tried using watercolored pencils and haven't been happy with the results. I used Georgia_Pacific Card stock and used a water brush. The brush end is so dry that when I touch my face with the tip it's just barely even feels damp. The colors all mush together and paper is a bubbled mess. I was very happy to have someone start this thread and Prisma Pencils.
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Is Prisma Premier count 132 the colored pensils I've been reading about or is this a different Premier a kind of Prisma colored pencils.
Does OMS or baby oil bubble up the paper after you use the blending stump?
I've looked at links others have showen the cool blending they gotten using this method.
I just don't want to invest in new pencils and find the paper is still a bubbles mess.
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There are no dumb questions - can't help not knowing what you don't know As for your questions, I'll try and answer. Your problem with your watercolors is most likely not with the pencils, but with your paper. Cardstock just isn't sturdy enough for water. If you still want to try using them, get yourself some watercolor paper. It's meant to handle the water and it won't bubble up on you. You can find it at Hobby Lobby and Michaels.

The Prisma Premiers are the pencils referred to here unless someone specifically mentions another brand/type. They have a nice, creamy texture that works wonderfully with OMS. I can't speak to how well they work with baby oil, since I don't use it. You CAN use your card stock with them, and they blend very nicely and you won't have warped paper. They're my very favorite medium. I tried to jump on the Copic bandwagon, but I keep coming back to my Prisma Premiers. They are just so much easier to blend for me. They are kinda pricy, but soooo worth it. Dick Blick and Jerry's Artarama have good prices on them. Hope that helps.
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Sorry for asking a few dumb questions but I've tried using watercolored pencils and haven't been happy with the results. I used Georgia_Pacific Card stock and used a water brush. The brush end is so dry that when I touch my face with the tip it's just barely even feels damp. The colors all mush together and paper is a bubbled mess. I was very happy to have someone start this thread and Prisma Pencils.
My questions are:
Is Prisma Premier count 132 the colored penils I've been reading about or is this a different Premier a kind of Prisma colored pencils.
Does OMS or baby oil bubble up the paper after you use the blending stump?
I've looked at links others have showen the cool blending they gotten using this method.
I just don't want to invest in new pencils and find the paper is still a bubbles mess.
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Yes, Prisma Premier is the kind you want. 132 is the entire set, with every color they make. You might want to consider a smaller number of colors at first. You can always buy open stock and add additional colors later if you wish. The entire set has something like 11 different shades of gray. Personally, I thought that was a bit redundant and impractical. However, many of my friends on here have the entire set and love them.

As far as bubbles mess. I have not had that problem and I don't recall any of the others on this thread talking about it. I have used both Baby Oil and Gamsol, which a brand of OMS. A bottle with a sponge applicator is a very wise thing to have, because it delivers just the right amount. You can get a plastic bottle or a glass one that is very pretty, but much more expensive.

Paper is important, but there are several types that work well. Some people, like Dini and Marti like a bit of tooth in their paper and others prefer a smoother finish. Two widely recommended papers are: Pure Luxury Card Stock Heavy Base Weight, and Neenah paper which comes in solar white and natural white.

I recently switched papers again, this time ordering the Pure Luxury from Gina K. It is widely available, but Gina has a great price and a good reputation for customer service. I like this paper better than what I was using and boy did I get it quickly!!

If you will read back just a few posts, you'll see some discussion on OMS that may answer any addition questions you have. Dini, Marti and Jess are true experts with Prismas and they may have more to offer as well. I do have a tutorial on my blog that links to others' videos etc. that may help you too.
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Thanks you both so very much for answering my questions. I was so unhappy with my watercolor pencils. I bought 2 seperate Prisma Pencils just to see how they felt using them. They appeared to apply alot more smoothly. I thought I'd buy a set of Prisma's only because my 2 pencils I bought to try were $2 each. I will try to find Neenah paper. It's made in WI and that's where I live. Just have to find where they sell it. Once I get my pencils I'll look for the Gamsol. Thanks again so much for both of your help. Maddie
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I have several brands of watercolor pencils ( General's Kimberly, Cheapo Staedler I got at Staples, and a few Derwents WC & Inktense ) and I have found all the brands I have WILL blend with gamsol/oms/baby oil. Actually sometimes they move on the paper easier than the prismacolor premiers And you might get punchier less washed out color from the WC pencils by using OMS instead of water So if you instead splurge on some OMS and blending stumps, you could probably color quite nicely with the watercolor pencils you have WITHOUT the bubbling and pillage of the cardstock.

A cheaper option, if you want to try waxy normal pencils like Prismacolor, is Prismacolor SCHOLAR. They come in sets of 24/48/60 and the color numbers usually correspond to their sister Premiers. eg Premier Crimson Lake is 925 Scholar would be 325. They are still vibrant, creamy and blend well. And a little less susceptible to breakage. My teenage son colors with them for his cartooning and he gets phenomenal effects and blending with them! I think you can get a 60 set of scholars for under $30. Most online art supply carry them and they can be found at Staples ( here in Canada anyway). I started with the Scholars and picked up Premiers in the colours I didn't already have.

That said - I almost have my PC Premier collection finished LOL! I am a pencil junkie. Now I am waiting for the NEW 18 colours to hit the Canadian art supply stores and I'll be on them LOL.

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Old 02-27-2012, 11:41 AM   #2877
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Thanks for your help. I don't have the biggest watercolor pencil collection. I bought a 36 pencil set then every now and then when I'd go to the store I'd been add 2 pencils. The last time like I said I bought 2 prisma's. But this even though like I said I don't have tons it's starting to add up $$$ 2 pencils at a time. I'm going to be better off in the end just buying a set. Once I get the pencils I'll search for Gamsol. I go this stamp shop during the summer and do a few make and takes. It taught me how to do things. I've been doing cards or shall I say trying to maybe 9 months. One card was using copic markers. I learnt from that one card copic wasn't going to be for me. cost way to much per marker plus hard to blend. Starting a new hobby there are so many things ya need when ya have nothing to start with. I really appreciate you posting info to my question. What info help may seem small to members who have been doing this for years is huge to a newbie.
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:55 PM   #2878
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Prismacolor pencils at Dick Blick for 99 cents
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What brand of watercolor pencils are you working with? I had a terrible time with the Prismacolor WC pencils. The ones I have are from Derwent. If you prefer to work on cardstock rather than watercolor paper, you might try blending your watercolor pencils with a blender pen (Stampin' Up makes one, or you might find a Dove blender pen online or at a stamping store). They are a little more forgiving to cardstock.

You can usually control the flow on your waterbrush by squeezing it to get the water moving, then blotting on a rag until you get the flow you want.

I have a tutorial on my blog for watercolor pencils - there are many ways to use them, so this is just one... in general I lift color directly from the pencil tip with my brush, and color to the paper directly when I want to shade more deeply.
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I like the Georgia Pacific cardstock from Walmart for pencil work - smoother cardstock like Neenah doesn't catch the pigment into the paper, and blending just moves the pigment around on top instead of getting into the tooth. I've never had a problem with bubbling cardstock using OMS.

So glad you stopped by! Let us know how things go!
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Old 02-27-2012, 02:31 PM   #2880
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Sorry for asking a few dumb questions but I've tried using watercolored pencils and haven't been happy with the results. I used Georgia_Pacific Card stock and used a water brush. The brush end is so dry that when I touch my face with the tip it's just barely even feels damp. The colors all mush together and paper is a bubbled mess. I was very happy to have someone start this thread and Prisma Pencils.
My questions are:
Is Prisma Premier count 132 the colored pensils I've been reading about or is this a different Premier a kind of Prisma colored pencils.
Does OMS or baby oil bubble up the paper after you use the blending stump?
I've looked at links others have showen the cool blending they gotten using this method.
I just don't want to invest in new pencils and find the paper is still a bubbles mess.
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I've just started using prismas and OMS. The paper does not bubble up or pill. That was my concern as well, but I am really loving the technique. I started out buying one tin of the 12 colors, then I saw that Michaels sells these individiually and they are all numbered, so I wrote down all the ones I had and bought more on the day Michaels had 25% off your entire purchase.
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