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Old 06-29-2009, 07:14 AM   #921
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Yes, you have to look in the "real" artist section, with the Prismacolor pencils and things like that. You won't find it in the stamping or crafts sections.

Is it possible that Michaels carries another brand? The bottle should say Odorless Mineral Spirits, somewhere on the bottle, regardless of the brand, right?
On the Mona Lisa brand, the front of the container says Odorless Paint Thinner. On the back under Ingredients or Contains, it says odorless mineral spirits.

Well, my bottle does anyway! I bought mine a little over a year ago.
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Nope, not a single jar in that store said Odorless Mineral Spirits. NOT ONE. I went through the entire art section.
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Cool Prisa color for fir trees?

I saw a thread for colors for the trees? What colors are U using?
Any sales anywhere to buy indivual colors. Went to a lake in N.M ,want to do Stampscapes w/ Prisms.
Nobody mentioned coloring c/art by Dover. I copy them on c/stock @ Kinkos, when it's too hot,sit by A/c coloring. Put coloring in a folder to later make into cards.
I use the c/pencils for o/lines. I'm using the w/color by Prism for areas I want to shade.
The w/color match the Prism colors,they are turning out real nice. I'm doing a 2nd set of botanicals by Dover this summer. I used alchol ink by Ranger on glossy c/stock for b/ground for a wow effect. People who gotten them really like them. Make up s/more.
Finally read all the threads, have over a page of notes for reference when I color. I also b/marked several artist's blogs that were mentioned. Thanks so much for all this info. I really want to learn how to color better.I can't afford copics, the smell bothers me.
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Nope, not a single jar in that store said Odorless Mineral Spirits. NOT ONE. I went through the entire art section.
Do you have a Hobby Lobby in your town? They carry it. The Michael's by me doesn't have it either (smaller ones don't carry as much as the bigger M's do).
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Nope, we only have Michael's and Joann's.

That's it.

I even went to the Community college, thinking they might have something. Nope.
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Nope, we only have Michael's and Joann's.

That's it.

I even went to the Community college, thinking they might have something. Nope.
You could probably find some online........hmmm.....

My friend and I split a bottle and I am not sure where she bought hers otherwise I would offer a suggestion.

You may want to try a hardware store. I know it won't be artist grade but it might work. Also, Goo Gone and Baby Oil work too.
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You could probably find some online........hmmm.....

You may want to try a hardware store. I know it won't be artist grade but it might work. Also, Goo Gone and Baby Oil work too.
Online would be my next suggestion if you're determined to try OMS. Otherwise, hit the sample section at Wal-mart and grab a small bottle of baby oil.

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I must be the only person on earth who does not like the smell of baby oil.. but there it is. I use mineral oil (in the laxative section).
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Finally read all the threads, have over a page of notes for reference when I color. I also b/marked several artist's blogs that were mentioned. Thanks so much for all this info. I really want to learn how to color better.I can't afford copics, the smell bothers me.
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Some good info here! The smell of Copics is unique. I can smell them a mile away when my wife is using them...I guess it's the alcohol in them.
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I finally got my two Magnolia images up on my blog - if you wanna swing on over. They are both colored w/ prisma pencils and gamsol!
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I finally got my two Magnolia images up on my blog - if you wanna swing on over. They are both colored w/ prisma pencils and gamsol!
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LOVE your coloring, Maria!
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What a fabulous idea for a thread! I have just been trying out my prismacolor crayons. I got a package of the Scholars and some storebrand odorless mineral spirits.

I've been having trouble with ink smearing though. I've tried Memories black, brilliance graphite, black, versafine onyx, palette noir and stazon. All ran except stazon. I was using SU whisper white paper each time.

Does anyone have any tips?
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I use India Ink pad from Stewart Superior as it is real black and it keep the stamped image crisp. This is Water Based ink let me explane the bottom rules of ink and crayon/markers combination

For Prismacolor pencil with Gamsol technique you need to stamp with a water based ink (dye ink) as the Gamsol or any other artist grade mineral spirit is formulated to melt the wax and oil substences. We actually use that to clean our paint brushes when painting with oil paint or coloring with oil based pastels. That is why it kind of blend the wax from the pencil and make the colors to blend together. So to make sure your stamped image does not blead use water base ink. Me I use India Ink pad from Stewart Superior but the SU Black ink will work even if it not really black and it is more like a dark purple color. The Whisper white cardstock from SU should be fine too.

For coloring with Copic or alcool based markes it is the opposite so the alcool from the markers will blead any stamped images stamped with dye ink (water based ink) or solvent ink (stazon) and also alcool ink. So in that case we use pigment or hybride ink such as Palette, Memento, brillance ink.

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On the Mona Lisa brand, the front of the container says Odorless Paint Thinner. On the back under Ingredients or Contains, it says odorless mineral spirits.

Well, my bottle does anyway! I bought mine a little over a year ago.
Yeah!!! I finally found this!! !
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Yeah!!! I finally found this!! !
Hurray!

Sometimes all we need is that little extra bit of information.

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I finally got my two Magnolia images up on my blog - if you wanna swing on over. They are both colored w/ prisma pencils and gamsol!
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Just checked out your blog! Super job of coloring. Your Magnolia's are wonderful!
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I finally got my two Magnolia images up on my blog - if you wanna swing on over. They are both colored w/ prisma pencils and gamsol!
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You did a fabulous job coloring! TFS
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I use India Ink pad from Stewart Superior as it is real black and it keep the stamped image crisp. This is Water Based ink let me explane the bottom rules of ink and crayon/markers combination

For Prismacolor pencil with Gamsol technique you need to stamp with a water based ink (dye ink) as the Gamsol or any other artist grade mineral spirit is formulated to melt the wax and oil substences. We actually use that to clean our paint brushes when painting with oil paint or coloring with oil based pastels. That is why it kind of blend the wax from the pencil and make the colors to blend together. So to make sure your stamped image does not blead use water base ink. Me I use India Ink pad from Stewart Superior but the SU Black ink will work even if it not really black and it is more like a dark purple color. The Whisper white cardstock from SU should be fine too.

For coloring with Copic or alcool based markes it is the opposite so the alcool from the markers will blead any stamped images stamped with dye ink (water based ink) or solvent ink (stazon) and also alcool ink. So in that case we use pigment or hybride ink such as Palette, Memento, brillance ink.

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This is wonderful information thanks!!!!
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Question So..what ink for a swap?

When we participate in a swap, we don't know what technique the recipient will use... what ink would you recommend for swaps??

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Personally, I would use Memento. I use it for everything. It's waterproof, so that takes care of water based markers, like SU!, water color crayons and watercolor pencils. It does not bleed with Copic markers, so people can use those and It's fine for Prisamacolor colored pencils.

Also, I, personally, wish all the hostesses would require that the participants put the name of the ink on the back of the images. It is very frustrating when not everybody in the swap lists the ink even when asked to do so. That is one reason I always posted the ink and the name of the stamp I was using when I first sign up for the swap. That way, if someone gets my image, they could always look back to see what I used. However, I have decided to always list it on the back of the image.
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I was surprised to see that some folks had trouble with Staz-on. Guess it's time to switch!

And I certainly have a better understanding of why it's important to note the type of ink on the image....I will do that after this!

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I haven't been impressed (pun not intended, sorry) with Memento aside from being able to use it with alcohol markers...the image isn't crisp to me. Just sayin'.
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I haven't been impressed (pun not intended, sorry) with Memento aside from being able to use it with alcohol markers...the image isn't crisp to me. Just sayin'.
So what are you using when you use the c/pencils Dina?
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I haven't been impressed (pun not intended, sorry) with Memento aside from being able to use it with alcohol markers...the image isn't crisp to me. Just sayin'.
I agree. I also get some smearing on PTI White cardstock when using Momento with prismacolors and OMS. And I have the same issues with Brillance whether I heat set it or not. I don't have any of those problems at all with Palette.
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A big newbie question-how do Koh-i-noor compare to Prismacolors?
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I just did my first Digital Stamp Art piece (a free download from Hambo Stamps - thanks!). I used my Prisma colored pencils and gamsol to color, but had a bit of trouble with the inkjet ink moving on me (especially with the ochre and green colors) What is it about yellow that makes black want to muck it up? Does anyone have a suggestion about how to set the image so this doesn't happen?
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Looks good Kathy! I like the loose pencil strokes in the water. Glad you figured out how to re size the image to what you want.

Did you see the other free download we did? Here it is...here.

I use a laser printer but others say they heat set when using an ink jet or letting it sit overnight.
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I finally got my two Magnolia images up on my blog - if you wanna swing on over. They are both colored w/ prisma pencils and gamsol!
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I checked out your blog too.... Love the beer card!!! absolutely fun! You do a great job with the pencils.
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I use Versafine with everything but markers - works great for pencils and watercolor.
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If you haven't checked it out before here is the link to the Colored Pencil Society...CPSA If you live near Atlanta they will have their yearly exhibition there starting the end of July.
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I just found this thread and it is great! I've been using the Prismas for awhile now and love them, but have been toying with the idea of getting Copics, but just don't know if they would be better than what I can do with the pencils. I like baby oil to blend, the odorless mineral spirits definitely had an odor to me.

I just saw that someone mentioned that 12 new colors came out. Is this true?? And if so where can you see them at? I can't get a clear description on the Dick Blick site. I have the 132 set. Thanks and I'm happy to have found so much good info here
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I just saw that someone mentioned that 12 new colors came out. Is this true?? And if so where can you see them at? I can't get a clear description on the Dick Blick site. I have the 132 set. Thanks and I'm happy to have found so much good info here
If you have the 132, then you're up to date. The 12 new were the ones that took the count from 120 to 132.

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I just wanted to share a new discovery for me with what to blend the pencils with. I have been using baby oil and blending stumps and really was frustrated with the lack of precision with the blending stumps, even with sanding the tip again and again.

So I bought a blender pen from Mikes and a pack of Ranger Cut 'n Dry Nibs to try and oh my! What a difference! Both work wonderful dipped in the baby oil (and I assume would work just fine if you use gamsol) but I find I have so much more control over blending now. To clean the tips I just rub them on some scratch paper and if need be dip it in the oil a few times just for cleaning. I am SO much happier with using my pencils now!

The other tip that I wanted to share was if you don't have your pencils all out where you can easily see and grab them I highly recommend doing that! I just bought myself a 3 cup pencil holder on clearance at Target and my 132 set fits in it and now I can SEE all my colors which in turns helps me with blending and shading and getting a lot more depth to my images. Just wanted to share!
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Great tips! Thanks for sharing! My pencils are still in the 4 layer tin they came in! I find that I don't use them much because of that! I will have to find a pencil holder!
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that is a good idea leah! i never can get my point sanded as sharp as it came originally which I hate!
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Leah, I like your ideas, but wondered if a 3 cup pencil holder is a 3 cup measuring cup? Or a three part pencil cup? Also was the blender you bought also a Ranger? Hope I'm not the only one who doesn't get it, but hey, wouldn't be the first time and not likely the last cause I have no problem with asking questions :+) Thanks and happy coloring!
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I've only had my pencils and stumps (that I bought from Dick Blick) for a month now and have been pretty happy with the results using baby oil. I use a small baby jar with a lid and put a small piece of felt squirted with baby oil (recommended by djuseless - Diane) and the felt is still full of baby oil and has stayed clean. But I found that the sander that I bought from DickBlick doesn't work quite as well as sanding with a regular rectangle sanding block that I bought from Home Depot. I just sand up to the tip at a 45 degree angle to keep the tip nice and sharp and then I lightly sand the point to get the last of the color out. The sanding block gets the color out pretty well and I have no blending of colors that would be left from the stump.

For storage, I try to recycle when I can so I just use a big ole' empty plastic ice cream tub with a handle and put all of the pencils and accessories I normally use in fruit cans that I've saved. I will decorate it one of these days, but all of my stuff is in one spot. If I need a new pencil, I just dig through the tin. But I did organize my pencils by color in the tin so a shade is easier to find.

The one thing someone can do is that if you don't have a big plastic container to put the cans in is that you can make your own storage unit by using small binder clips to attach the cans together. I had seen this as a project you can do with kids in Parents Magazine. I might end up doing this if I decide to organize all of my pencils in cans. Then you can just decorate the cans to make them look pretty.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:08 AM   #958
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For storage, mine are currently still snug in their tin, although I'm working on a cloth portfolio for them. It just isn't finished yet. This works pretty good for me because it keeps the pencils I'm not using out of the way and organized. I have a color chart of my pencils I made right after I got them and I rely on it heavily.

Rather than just color images at random, I figure out what paper I will want to use for cards and projects, then I pull the pencils that match, along with my shading options and pretty much my full group of browns and a collection of greys. This sits in a pencil cup in my coloring box. I have a box of prestamped images in this box as well, so I can sit and color to my heart's content, pulling image after image until I get tired of the color set I've chosen.

When I'm ready to move on, I tuck my pencils neatly back into their slots in the tin, pull out the paper I selected and get to work on cards and altered stuff. I don't even clean my stumps until this point. I end up with around 8 to 15 cards/projects out of a color set and I never have to worry about finding matching paper.

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Old 07-08-2009, 06:54 AM   #959
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dlsplu- no worries on the questions I meant a 3 part cup holder, like you would find in the office supply section. I'm sure other containers would work just as well, but this was cheap and it is skinny depth wise which was perfect for my small desk.

The blender pen is from Marvy, in my Mikes it's found with the Marvy pens to color your stmaps with. It comes as a single pen, but it is double sided. Hope that helps
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So then how are you using the Cut-N-Dry nibs Leah?
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