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jjhere 05-22-2013 07:20 AM

Modeling Paste vs. Embossing Paste
 
Is there a difference or are they essentially the same thing?

Thanks,
Julie

Scrapjanny 05-22-2013 12:11 PM

As far as I know, modeling paste, molding paste, and embossing paste are essentially the same thing. I've done the same techniques with all three.

iamvics 05-22-2013 01:14 PM

I recently purchased Studio 490 embossing paste and I love it. It's the lightest of any pastes I've used in the past.

jjhere 05-23-2013 06:12 AM

I am a stalker of Wendy Vecchi's blog. Love what she does with her embossing paste, art parts, etc.

QueenOfInkland 05-24-2013 02:48 AM

Dimensional paint works the same way, so a third option. And I just found dimensional paint with glitter made by Anthropologie (spelling might be incorrect) and this dimensional glitter paint is gorgeous. I've colored modeling (model) paste with acrylic paint, but I just don't think I could do a decent glitter mix in the paste and the ready-made glitter dimensional paint has it all mixed up ready for you.

Arizona 05-24-2013 03:58 AM

I tried google dimensional glitter paint, but only came up with fabric paints. Is this the same?

jjhere 05-24-2013 06:21 AM

Oooohhhhh...that sounds like fun stuff to play with. I'll have to be on the lookout for that.

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Originally Posted by QueenOfInkland (Post 20175145)
Dimensional paint works the same way, so a third option. And I just found dimensional paint with glitter made by Anthropologie (spelling might be incorrect) and this dimensional glitter paint is gorgeous. I've colored modeling (model) paste with acrylic paint, but I just don't think I could do a decent glitter mix in the paste and the ready-made glitter dimensional paint has it all mixed up ready for you.


QueenOfInkland 05-24-2013 12:09 PM

Okay you guys - here's where you can see it:
Susana's Custom Art and Card Design Art Anthology Gelate

There is some without glitter. If you go all the way to the bottom of the page, the last three items are the ones with glitter and the last one (frost) I don't remember if glitter or not but I got all 4 at the bottom of that web page (of course HAHAHA) and I have only used the gold one so far and it is beautiful when it dries and you have the same dimension that you'd have with modeling/model paste or embossing paste. I would say this is more of an artist grade product. I love it !!!

I don't know, but I would guess that it's not the same as fabric paint but the description does says it's good for home décor...

SCS - we are the best enablers in the whole wide world LOL

iamvics 05-24-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by QueenOfInkland (Post 20175800)
Okay you guys - here's where you can see it:
Susana's Custom Art and Card Design Art Anthology Gelate

There is some without glitter. If you go all the way to the bottom of the page, the last three items are the ones with glitter and the last one (frost) I don't remember if glitter or not but I got all 4 at the bottom of that web page (of course HAHAHA) and I have only used the gold one so far and it is beautiful when it dries and you have the same dimension that you'd have with modeling/model paste or embossing paste. I would say this is more of an artist grade product. I love it !!!

I don't know, but I would guess that it's not the same as fabric paint but the description does says it's good for home décor...

SCS - we are the best enablers in the whole wide world LOL

Have you used this with stencils? It looks very pretty.

QueenOfInkland 05-24-2013 01:22 PM

Hi iamvics :)

Yes, I used it with a stencil. I think it was the TCW butterfly wings stencil (from Julie Balzer maybe?). There is an open wing image and a swirly design on this stencil. I used the open image and colored that with denim distress paint and then I used the swirly design part of the stencil through which I applied the gold glitter dimensional paint. The base of the glitter dimensional paint is clear, so when it dried, I had the swirly design in gold glitter on top of the denim colored base and it really was pretty. I give it a thumbs up as a product :)

iamvics 05-24-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by QueenOfInkland (Post 20175882)
Hi iamvics :)

Yes, I used it with a stencil. I think it was the TCW butterfly wings stencil (from Julie Balzer maybe?). There is an open wing image and a swirly design on this stencil. I used the open image and colored that with denim distress paint and then I used the swirly design part of the stencil through which I applied the gold glitter dimensional paint. The base of the glitter dimensional paint is clear, so when it dried, I had the swirly design in gold glitter on top of the denim colored base and it really was pretty. I give it a thumbs up as a product :)

Well, I'm adding them to my wish/want/need list! Thanks!

Arizona 05-24-2013 03:53 PM

Looks like this is going on my wish list as well!:D

KathiR 05-25-2013 07:41 PM

In addition to the Art Anthology Gelates, now known as Sorbets, there are Art Anthology Velvets that are even thicker than Gelates/Sorbets.

I recently tried and fell in love with Viva Decor's 3D Stamping Paint that is thick, gorgeous, and glittery. It dries really quickly with lots of glitter and a sandy, raised texture that is lovely.

I used it with the Chevron Arrow stencil by The Crafter's Workshop, which you might be able to see below, if I do this correctly. If not, check this link .

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lVzmlU-CXr...00/ArrowCU.jpg

stamphappy1650 05-27-2013 05:36 AM

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The magenta heart is modeling paste that I added micro-beads and ink refill

In the She Art pic the modeling paste is in the bottom right corner using a stencil and sprayed with a mist.

IMHO I don't think that modeling paste and heavy body acrylic paint are the same. My modeling paste is much thicker. I can see how they could be used the same, but when I use modeling paste I want a heavier 3-d effect and for me it would be harder to build up the paint to get that effect.

Arizona 05-27-2013 01:31 PM

Wow! Thanks for the awesome examples. You guys are inspiring me to try my hand at other mediums beyond traditional ink pads. I've been saving sites and making lists like crazy!;)

jjhere 05-28-2013 12:25 PM

Colored Embossing Paste
 
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I have a jar of Dreamweaver Embossing Paste (have had it for years!). Today I pulled it out to use with a butterfly stencil. I decided I wanted it colored so I wouldn't have to go back and color it and it worked like a charm. I sprayed some Dylusions ink into it.

My embossing paste is a frosting-like consistency - very light and fluffy. Is modeling paste thicker?

QueenOfInkland 05-28-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jjhere (Post 20180764)
I have a jar of Dreamweaver Embossing Paste (have had it for years!). Today I pulled it out to use with a butterfly stencil. I decided I wanted it colored so I wouldn't have to go back and color it and it worked like a charm. I sprayed some Dylusions ink into it.

My embossing paste is a frosting-like consistency - very light and fluffy. Is modeling paste thicker?

There are different weights of modeling/molding paste. I find the Anthology dimensional paint and the dreamweaver's stencil paste to produce about the same results as my light modeling/molding paste. Sometimes I add a little acrylic paint to color my light modeling paste. HTH.

Nancy McKay 05-29-2013 04:03 AM

Is there a tutorial on the use of this paste?

jodylb 05-29-2013 04:19 AM

For all us frugal crafters out there, a cheaper product that works great is lightweight spackling paste. I've colored with food coloring, and sprinkled it liberally with glitter immediately after removing the stencil. Turned out great! For a different look you can also use silicone caulk that comes in the cardboard tubes. Just be prepared to clean your tools as soon as you finish using them. Lots of tutorials on the web...

Rebecca Ednie 05-29-2013 04:31 AM

I recently found a blog post that mentioned making your own embossing paste. I'm going from memory but I believe it was one part white glue, one part white acrylic paint and baby powder to get the consistency you want. I believe she started you with one tablespoon of each and 1/4c powder. Don't quote me on the amounts. But you can mix it to your own consistency.

My guess from watching TONS of videos on the Golden Paints channel on YouTube is that you could also just add powder to gesso to make a close match for embossing paste and mix it up as thick as you like. Maybe thrown in a drizzle of white glue to make sure it stays put. Thats what I'm going to do. I believe she had also tried cornstarch but found the baby powder was finer textured and dried smoother.

Rebecca Ednie 05-29-2013 04:33 AM

As a note, silicone caulk might work but I think you'd struggle to colour it and layer other mediums over it as it is designed to resist water. Might be a plus in some circumstances but for mixed media art, mostly a negative. I've always seen it layered with colour unless you were using at as cool resist. There are other easier to use resist products though maybe?

cjzim 05-29-2013 04:58 AM

Stamphappy, the projects you shared above are gorgeous!

susanbri 05-29-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy McKay (Post 20181574)
Is there a tutorial on the use of this paste?

Here's one on SCS:

Splitcoaststampers - Stencil Paste Embossing Technique Tutorial by Linda Bullard

And here is a site put up by Dreamweaver with a lot of techniques and instructions:

Dreamweaver Stencils - SWS Home Page

Just click on the "How To" button.

jjhere 05-29-2013 11:18 AM

I never even thought of checking out Dreamweaver's site. Great tip!

stamphappy1650 05-29-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cjzim (Post 20181647)
Stamphappy, the projects you shared above are gorgeous!

Thanks so much :)


I'm no expert, but I have tried some of the methods mentioned above and I find that in the long run I get better results using embossing paste or modeling paste. I buy my modeling paste at a big box store so I can use a coupon.

I found it more difficult to find the same consistency, smooth/creamy feel, with a longer drying time. Embossing/modeling paste doesn't dry as fast so you have time to get the effect you want.

If you aren't sure you're going to like the technique, then make your own in small batches or use spackle, but don't be disappointed if your results are not what you expected. If you need to be frugal, again make your own, but if you can get a 40% off coupon, an 8 oz jar is only about $5. :)

sacstamper 05-29-2013 11:49 AM

I like the Dreamweaver Embossing Paste also. Can add color and/or glitter. they have several colors as well.

jeanne3579 05-29-2013 02:34 PM

Love using the Dreamweaver's Embossing Paste, but I do have art paste. Will have to try that. Love how it can be painted on or trowled on through a stencil.

asuncionshija 05-29-2013 11:23 PM

Another idea (which is where I saw a video about making your own embossing paste) is for you to watch some of the Swirlydoos videos on YouTube - or join their forum and check out the gazillion techniques they have posted there (especially the mixed media tutorials). I've also been ogling this stuff from PaperArtsy, even *if* I have to order it from the UK! :) You can see it used in this blog post from them.

stamphappy1650 05-30-2013 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by asuncionshija (Post 20182956)
Another idea (which is where I saw a video about making your own embossing paste) is for you to watch some of the Swirlydoos videos on YouTube - or join their forum and check out the gazillion techniques they have posted there (especially the mixed media tutorials). I've also been ogling this stuff from PaperArtsy, even *if* I have to order it from the UK! :) You can see it used in this blog post from them.

thanks for sharing the videos - I think the metallic wax is similar to rub n' buff or other rub on metallic waxes. This was a hot product years ago and it sounds like it's coming back in fun new techniques.

TFS

from the heart 06-01-2013 01:35 PM

my vote goes for Viva Decor modelling cream. Excellent product. Works fabulously with stencils. One thing though...have warm water in a plastic dish close by to put your stencil into when done. Otherwise the modelling cream will harden quickly and it will make the stencil much harder to use the next time. Dreamweaver's embossing paste is virtually the same as Viva Decor. Dreamweaver does have a wonderful transluscent as well as crackle finish offering that Viva Decor does not have. Viva Decor has probably 12-14 colours available. There is a wonderful selection of pastel colours. Dreamweaver has I think 6 to 8.
One fun thing to do with Viva Decor (haven't tried this technique with Dreamweaver) is to lay a fairly thick coat on your c/s and using your embossing heat gun, dry the paste with it. It will bubble up and give you some really neat texture to work with. Just don't overheat... it will scorch.
One note about 3D stamp paint from Viva Decor.. while it is an amazing product and has fabulous colours it is not raised like Viva Decor or Dreamweaver's. The 3D means the shimmers or glitters in the paints give it the appearance of dimension. If you want your stencil raised from the paper to give a true 3D effect, then go with the modelling cream or Dreamweaver embossing paste. hth:-D

jjhere 06-03-2013 09:00 AM

Great tips!

rachipohli 01-17-2014 07:18 AM

I'm really wanting to learn how to use stencils more, and I love the look of the embossing pastes, but they're hard to find in store (I can always order them online, but then you have to pay shipping and wait...) That's how I ended up here, when I googled a search about the difference between embossing paste & modeling paste. While there is a ton of great information in this thread, I never really got clearly what the difference is (if there is one) between embossing paste & modelling paste...

so, is there a difference? Because I think that modelling paste might be a little easier to find. Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer the question! :)

stamphappy1650 01-17-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rachipohli (Post 20490688)
I'm really wanting to learn how to use stencils more, and I love the look of the embossing pastes, but they're hard to find in store (I can always order them online, but then you have to pay shipping and wait...) That's how I ended up here, when I googled a search about the difference between embossing paste & modeling paste. While there is a ton of great information in this thread, I never really got clearly what the difference is (if there is one) between embossing paste & modelling paste...

so, is there a difference? Because I think that modelling paste might be a little easier to find. Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer the question! :)

I use both and I don't see much difference except embossing paste comes in colors and modeling paste comes in a variety of thickness. Personally, I'd just go with modeling paste unless you want the colors instead of painting the modeling paste. Also, unless you know you're going to use it a lot, buy the smallest size. It doesn't dry out really fast, but why waste money until you know you like it.

IMHO I'm not a great fan of using household spackle - it will work, but not as flexible as to how it accepts different coloring mediums but the price is great.

Bahb 01-17-2014 03:09 PM

Having used Dreamweaver stencils and pastes for ten years now, I have to say you're in for an all new thrill if you haven't tried them before. BUT, you have to be patient while you learn the technique of spreading the paste. Once you get that down, you'll realize it's the most fail-safe technique there is for creating a WOW factor on your cards.

My favorite is coloring an image with Prismacolors, then spreading translucent embossing paste over it, and sometimes sprinkling on Hero Arts Prismaglitter if you want your image to look frosted or snowed upon. I've also spread the white paste on and then colored the image with markers or acrylic paint. Some of the Dreamweaver stencils are gorgeous with nothing more than the gold embossing paste making the image and some Stickles doing the decorating. You can't get bored because, once you know how to spread the paste, it's very quick and easy to play with the many different ways to change the look of just one stencil.....but it's hard to stop buying the huge variety available. I prefer Dreamweaver because they are metal and the images tend to be more formal than other brands. They can also be used in the Big Shot or Cuttlebug, but the embossing isn't as dramatic as what you get with Embossing folders, and there's a danger of warping your metal stencil such that embossing paste would leak under the edges of the image.

Try Embossing Paste! I bet you'll love it. And by the way, a $9 jar goes a VERY long way because it takes less than a half teaspoon to cover most stencils. I started with just a jar of the no-color paste and a jar of the translucent. Those two can keep you busy for a long time, because you can color them yourself.

Bahb

RiverIsis 01-17-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebecca Ednie (Post 20181607)
As a note, silicone caulk might work but I think you'd struggle to colour it and layer other mediums over it as it is designed to resist water. Might be a plus in some circumstances but for mixed media art, mostly a negative. I've always seen it layered with colour unless you were using at as cool resist. There are other easier to use resist products though maybe?

Get the Painter's caulk in a tube where the air can be kept out. Painter's caulk is paintable.

And from what I've read is buy small because whatever you buy it dries out easily.

dini 01-17-2014 07:53 PM

The caulk that I use is acrylic, and it is paintable.

Joan B 01-19-2014 06:03 AM

great question and great answers. thanks!

dillyb5 01-19-2014 09:36 AM

I am signed up to take an online "stencil" class on Jennifer Mcguires web site, starts on Jan. 24 and is only $12...her classes are very good...hope to refresh my techniques, which are very limited lol

susanbri 01-19-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dillyb5 (Post 20492960)
I am signed up to take an online "stencil" class on Jennifer Mcguires web site, starts on Jan. 24 and is only $12...her classes are very good...hope to refresh my techniques, which are very limited lol

I'm signed up too - looking forward to it, and am glad to hear you say her classes are good as it's the first on-line class I've ever done!


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