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Got an email from Fran of the Frantic Stamper-my Board is on it's way to me!
Could someone direct me to the MOST correct (corrected) chart for the Board so I can compare the one on the board I receive and the much/most correct measurements.
I see where someone is giving Gregg-Marcos Paper-a pat on the back. I want to also say Fran-Frantic Stamper-is a gem! She has been keeping her customers up-to-date with info she has been getting from her rep. She was told by her rep that there was one one correction to be made. I emailed her and told her about the SCS thread where people who had received their WRMK Envelope Punch Board noticed multiple errors in the measurements. She went back and forth with her rep after she compared a corrected chart with the one on the Boards she had received and found 11 errors. I guess she has received a shipment of Boards with the corrected chart and is filling her pre-order list.
Well I did print it off and it just isn't crisp and clear like a sticker is. Maybe it's my printer, but I don't see why they wouldn't send a replacement sticker. They should have tried it out better before production on the thing!
Karen
I checked the tool directions site and these are the same changes I was told to begin with, so I think there has really only been one correction to the chart.
Got mine today. Very easy to use. Accuracy depends on the operator-if your original square of paper/card stock is a little off or the first measurement and score a little off then 'operator error'.
I have one question-I don't like that the section opposite the flap has that center portion that sticks up past the side sections. Do you just snip it off with scissors?
I cut it off with the trimmer. I fold one side so I have a straight side to put against the trimmer wall thing, and then I take off an inch or so. If I want to be picky, I fold the entire envelope and mark where to cut the corner.
__________________ Wash: "A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything."
Jayne: "Da*n straight."
Got mine today. Very easy to use. Accuracy depends on the operator-if your original square of paper/card stock is a little off or the first measurement and score a little off then 'operator error'.
I have one question-I don't like that the section opposite the flap has that center portion that sticks up past the side sections. Do you just snip it off with scissors?
I don't like it either - it makes the card hard to slide into the envie. I've been snipping it off with my scissors after it's made.
That's a good idea, Gale, to use the paper trimmer. When I'm making a whole bunch, I think I'll do that.
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Got mine today. Very easy to use. Accuracy depends on the operator-if your original square of paper/card stock is a little off or the first measurement and score a little off then 'operator error'.
Thanks for saying this. I feel a little vindicated. Way back when this thread first started, there was a video demo where the gal said many of her envies came out different sizes. I said it looked to me like she was quite "casual" about lining the paper up to start with, and that's what caused her problems by the time she got all around with the scores.
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I need to check my paper cutter because I'm not sure it is accurate. Don't want to throw the measurements off to begin with. Hey, tomorrow is March already so it's getting close to mid to late April!!!
I complained to We R Memory Keepers that their web site is far from informative for retail customers. (It still describes the board as "coming soon.") There's no information posted on which boards have bad measurements, nor any directions to the download page of corrected measurements. Their reply to me said the following:
"We had a large shipment go out to our retailers this week. We will have an additional shipment going out in May."
It looks like if your retailer doesn't get them this week or early next, it will mean waiting until May.
To the person who didn't get a good printout: make sure your printer is not set to draft mode, and try out some other kinds of paper. Otherwise, hopefully, they will send you a legible printout.
I have looked at the updated sticker and I still think one measurement is incorrect so, I wrote them an email tonight and we will see what their response will be:
"Envelope Punch - I have been reading about the discrepancy in the chart with the new update posted.
However, I have an issue with the updated version: 4-1/2 x 5-1/2 (A2) listed on the .pdf file is incorrect. The correct size for an A2 card is 4-1/4 x 5-1/2.
Is this another misprint? What should the correct paper size and score line be for a true A2 card size of 4-1/4 x 5-1/2?"
Cathy
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I have looked at the updated sticker and I still think one measurement is incorrect so, I wrote them an email tonight and we will see what their response will be:
"Envelope Punch - I have been reading about the discrepancy in the chart with the new update posted.
However, I have an issue with the updated version: 4-1/2 x 5-1/2 (A2) listed on the .pdf file is incorrect. The correct size for an A2 card is 4-1/4 x 5-1/2.
Is this another misprint? What should the correct paper size and score line be for a true A2 card size of 4-1/4 x 5-1/2?"
Cathy
Yikes! If the A2 measurements are off, that does mean trouble for those of us who make A2s primarily.
Curious to know if some über-organized person has identified on the cut chart which size envelope measurements will go through the U.S. mail with standard postage.....
I have looked at the updated sticker and I still think one measurement is incorrect so, I wrote them an email tonight and we will see what their response will be:
"Envelope Punch - I have been reading about the discrepancy in the chart with the new update posted.
However, I have an issue with the updated version: 4-1/2 x 5-1/2 (A2) listed on the .pdf file is incorrect. The correct size for an A2 card is 4-1/4 x 5-1/2.
Is this another misprint? What should the correct paper size and score line be for a true A2 card size of 4-1/4 x 5-1/2?"
Cathy
I have the punch and have made quite a few envelopes with it. The size shown on the original punch for the A2 card is wrong, and the measurements to make the envelopes are wrong, also.
Unfortunately, the updated chart that they posted online seems to have the incorrect size shown, too. Here are the measurments I use:
For a standard true A2 size card of 4-1/4" x 5-1/2", cut your paper to 8" x 8" square, and score at 3-1/2". This will give you the right size envelopes for the A2 cards.
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Last edited by buggainok; 03-01-2013 at 07:01 AM..
Thank you for the correct measurements for the cardstock square to be used and the correct score line measurement. I went back over most of the previous posts and saw the one you mentioned about the score line but must have missed the corrected measurement for the cardstock square. I tried the corrected scoreline and the finished envelope was different from a commercial envelope I used to compare. I knew the square must be a little too big but, thanks to you, I now know what size square to start with.
I think I will love this gadget! (oops, this 'useful tool') Hopefully, I will use up some of the paper I have that would otherwise never get a 'second chance' since many of the sheets in a pad are not what I would use on a project.
Thank you for the correct measurements for the cardstock square to be used and the correct score line measurement. I went back over most of the previous posts and saw the one you mentioned about the score line but must have missed the corrected measurement for the cardstock square. I tried the corrected scoreline and the finished envelope was different from a commercial envelope I used to compare. I knew the square must be a little too big but, thanks to you, I now know what size square to start with.
I think I will love this gadget! (oops, this 'useful tool') Hopefully, I will use up some of the paper I have that would otherwise never get a 'second chance' since many of the sheets in a pad are not what I would use on a project. Gotta get busy since I have LOTS of those sheets.
Thank you for the correct measurements for the cardstock square to be used and the correct score line measurement. I went back over most of the previous posts and saw the one you mentioned about the score line but must have missed the corrected measurement for the cardstock square. I tried the corrected scoreline and the finished envelope was different from a commercial envelope I used to compare. I knew the square must be a little too big but, thanks to you, I now know what size square to start with.
I think I will love this gadget! (oops, this 'useful tool') Hopefully, I will use up some of the paper I have that would otherwise never get a 'second chance' since many of the sheets in a pad are not what I would use on a project.
You are welcome, Ozzie. I am happy I could help. I do love this little gadget! I'm glad that 99% of the cards I make are the standard A2 size, so the other "wrong" measurements don't really bother me too much.
Another benefit to my corrected measurements I think, is that it's quicker to cut an 8 x 8 square than to have to fiddle with finding the 8-1/8" spot on my paper trimmer to cut the size they say to use, which is wrong anyway.
The other size card I make occasionally is a 5 x 7, and their measurements seem to work okay for that size.
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Archivers has sent an e-mail advertising the envelope board. They are the first "big box" store that I have seen advertising the board. Does anyone know if they have the original boards or the corrected ones? Also, has anyone noticed the board in Michaels or another big box store?
Archivers has sent an e-mail advertising the envelope board. They are the first "big box" store that I have seen advertising the board. Does anyone know if they have the original boards or the corrected ones? Also, has anyone noticed the board in Michaels or another big box store?
I've been watching Michaels and ACMoore and nothing yet.....
This was on facebook today:
Update:
We have an updated Envelope Punch Board Sticker to adhere over the current measurement sizes.
***Take a look at the 3x3" Envelope Size on the Punch Board. The original measurements for that size will be 5 3/8” x 5 3/8” with a 2 ¾” score line. If that’s the size listed for the 3x3” Envelope Size, then please email us for a replacement sticker. ***
Please email us at customerservice@weronthenet.com
Include ‘Envelope Punch Board Sticker’ in the subject line and your mailing address in the body of the email.
__________________ Wash: "A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything."
Jayne: "Da*n straight."
This was on facebook today:
Update:
We have an updated Envelope Punch Board Sticker to adhere over the current measurement sizes.
***Take a look at the 3x3" Envelope Size on the Punch Board. The original measurements for that size will be 5 3/8” x 5 3/8” with a 2 ¾” score line. If that’s the size listed for the 3x3” Envelope Size, then please email us for a replacement sticker. ***
Please email us at customerservice@weronthenet.com
Include ‘Envelope Punch Board Sticker’ in the subject line and your mailing address in the body of the email.
Thanks so much for sharing this, Gale. I'm going to email them right away.
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This was on facebook today:
Update:
We have an updated Envelope Punch Board Sticker to adhere over the current measurement sizes.
***Take a look at the 3x3" Envelope Size on the Punch Board. The original measurements for that size will be 5 3/8” x 5 3/8” with a 2 ¾” score line. If that’s the size listed for the 3x3” Envelope Size, then please email us for a replacement sticker. ***
Please email us at customerservice@weronthenet.com
Include ‘Envelope Punch Board Sticker’ in the subject line and your mailing address in the body of the email.
Will the sticker also reflect the corrections necessary for a proper A2 envelope?
Will there be a way to distinguish new/corrected boards from the first batch with incorrect measurements? I will be getting one of these, but am happy to wait until I can buy one that has correct measurements, including A2 measurements.
Will someone who has ordered a sticker please post a review after you have a chance to try out the new measurements (the ones on the sticker)? Thanks so much.
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Gale,
Thank you for the correct sticker information. Mine is the newer version. Since we, the card makers, KNOW an A2 card is 4 1/4" x 5 1/2" and WRMK insist it's 4 1/2" x 5 1/2", I used my labeler to print up the correct measurements and stuck it on my board above the ruler thing. (Not holding my breath that WRMK will make the A2 measurement change anytime soon.) This is the envelope size I will use most.
Thank you everyone for posting the errors and changes and keeping everyone informed.
Gale,
Thank you for the correct sticker information. Mine is the newer version. Since we, the card makers, KNOW an A2 card is 4 1/4" x 5 1/2" and WRMK insist it's 4 1/2" x 5 1/2", I used my labeler to print up the correct measurements and stuck it on my board above the ruler thing. (Not holding my breath that WRMK will make the A2 measurement change anytime soon.) This is the envelope size I will use most.
Thank you everyone for posting the errors and changes and keeping everyone informed.
Yes, what is that all about? The correction dimensions for an A2 card are all over the internet as 4-1/4 x 5-1/2.
For the record, with the Envelope Punch, I use an 8 x 8 square and score at 3-1/2 to get a perfect A2 size envie.
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I bought the envelope board yesterday (3/7/13) brought it home and immediately made an A2 envelope - so excited!! Excitement turned to disappointment when I realized that the envelope I was now holding was totally WRONG!! I went to the WRMK site to look at their so-called updated PDF file and the A2 size there is wrong also!! Didn't they check their finished product against a 'factory made' actual A2 envelope to make sure it was right before they released this board? Very disappointed. I guess I will wait until they release the second version of this board - hopefully they get it right!!!
Truth be told, when I'm making a lot of the same A2 card, I use 12x12 paper so I can get 3 cards out of it. They end up being 4" x 5.5" each instead of 4.25" x 5.5" each, but the difference is negligible. If the card has some dimension, it actually works out nicely because the added room in the envelope assures a good fit.
Either way (4.25" or 4"), I use a standard A2 envelope which, apparently, isn't what WRMK is using.
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I bought the envelope board yesterday (3/7/13) brought it home and immediately made an A2 envelope - so excited!! Excitement turned to disappointment when I realized that the envelope I was now holding was totally WRONG!! I went to the WRMK site to look at their so-called updated PDF file and the A2 size there is wrong also!! Didn't they check their finished product against a 'factory made' actual A2 envelope to make sure it was right before they released this board? Very disappointed. I guess I will wait until they release the second version of this board - hopefully they get it right!!!
See my post right before yours. If you use a square 8 x 8 and score at 3-1/2, you will have a perfect A2 size envelope.
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See my post right before yours. If you use a square 8 x 8 and score at 3-1/2, you will have a perfect A2 size envelope.
I did see your post - thank you for taking the time to work out the correct measurement. Why WRMK didn't do that, I will never know!! Unfortunately, I already sent my board back to Archiver's with my husband this morning. If they don't take it back, I'll get my chance to try out your fix!
I did see your post - thank you for taking the time to work out the correct measurement. Why WRMK didn't do that, I will never know!! Unfortunately, I already sent my board back to Archiver's with my husband this morning. If they don't take it back, I'll get my chance to try out your fix!
I would have taken the board off your hands, even if the measurements were wrong....I'm still waiting, and smiling. Mid to late April seems like a long time to be patient! LOL
I did see your post - thank you for taking the time to work out the correct measurement. Why WRMK didn't do that, I will never know!! Unfortunately, I already sent my board back to Archiver's with my husband this morning. If they don't take it back, I'll get my chance to try out your fix!
Lucky, don't know if you have been following this thread for long, but you do know that there is nothing wrong with the board itself, right? Just that some of the measurements on the chart are not correct?
Other than the A2, most of the incorrect measurements involve somewhat "odd" envelope sizes that I don't think I will ever make anyway.
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Well, looks like the gals at Archiver's are clueless. They made an envelope for my husband that was exactly the same as the one I'd already made at home to "explain" to him how it works and then sent him back home with the board. So, I have it back. My husband is an engineer and a math major, so he's working on the formula that will give me a perfect A2 size, just like a factory made envelope. We'll see how it goes. In looking at some of the other envelope sizes on the board, I am just flabbergasted that WRMK didn't check things out more carefully. A lot of sizes seem to be off.
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Lucky, don't know if you have been following this thread for long, but you do know that there is nothing wrong with the board itself, right? Just that some of the measurements on the chart are not correct?
Other than the A2, most of the incorrect measurements involve somewhat "odd" envelope sizes that I don't think I will ever make anyway.
And yes, I realize there is nothing inherently wrong with the board itself, just the given measurements. It's still frustrating though. I guess I just expected better of a company that's been in the business of making paper crafting tools for as long as WRMK.
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Archivers has sent an e-mail advertising the envelope board. They are the first "big box" store that I have seen advertising the board. Does anyone know if they have the original boards or the corrected ones? Also, has anyone noticed the board in Michaels or another big box store?
Archivers here in Utah has the "corrected" board. The measurements for the A2 envelope are WAY off, though.
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I guess I don't understand why you haven't tried the A2 measurements Bugga gave. I'm sure your husband can figure it out but why bother when someone else already has?
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Jayne: "Da*n straight."
Maybe she didn't read back. Here is what Bugga said:
For a standard true A2 size card of 4-1/4" x 5-1/2", cut your paper to 8" x 8" square, and score at 3-1/2". This will give you the right size envelopes for the A2 cards
I guess I don't understand why you haven't tried the A2 measurements Bugga gave. I'm sure your husband can figure it out but why bother when someone else already has?
I agree! Bugga's measurements are correct. They make the perfect A2 envelope. It will save your husband some time
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