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Old 06-04-2014, 02:54 PM   #1  
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Default Envelope Punch Board and Crafty Owl are WRONG!

After wasting a lot of time and paper following the measurements on my WRMK Envelope Punch Board (which, so I was told by an SU demonstrator, is the same board as SU's) and the web site http://www.thecraftyowl.co.uk/EnvelopeExpert I came up with correct measurements for the four sizes of cards I use the most: 4-Bar (3-1/2x5), A2, A6 and A7. After reading a thread about this subject, I used The Crafty Owl's measurements for an A2 card with 1/8" all around. I entered 4-1/2" x 5-3/4", and was told to use an 8-3/8" square piece of paper with the score at 4-5/8". Following that formula yielded an envelope that measured 4-3/4" x 6"! Too big.

Here are the formulas I came up with, and remember, the envelopes have an extra 1/8" all around.
4-Bar: 7-1/8" square paper, score and punch at 4-1/8"
A2: 8" square paper, score and punch at 3-9/16"
A6: 8-7/8" square paper, score and punch at 5"
A7: 9-3/4" square paper, score and punch at 5-5/8"

The envelope punch board makes it easy to make your own envelopes, but you need the right formulas and the correct envelope sizes. Look at your board for the A-2 card size, which should be 4-1/4" x 5-1/2", and you'll see it listed as 4-1/2" x 5-1/2". The card sizes for A6 and A7 are incorrect as well. Craft tool companies, are you reading this? Can some company please make a board that lists correct card sizes and formulas for 1/8" margins on all sides?!
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One more thing, craft tool companies: Extend the ruler to 6" and make the board larger to accommodate larger paper sizes!
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Marco's Paper figured out the A2 measurements as 8x8 and score at 3 1/2.
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Crafty owl gives incorrect measurements. You need to go to Scrapped Lives to get a spreadsheet that is correct EVERY TIME.!
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Can you please provide a link for Scrapped Lives?
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When I look at my SU board, the measurements for 4 1/4 x 5 1/2 says 8X8 paper scored at 3 1/2 as listed above.
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When I look at my SU board, the measurements for 4 1/4 x 5 1/2 says 8X8 paper scored at 3 1/2 as listed above.
Jana - from what I remember, that's the ONE difference between the SU version and the version available everywhere else - the Stampin Up board has the correct measurement for the A2 size envelope
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I've never figured how how to do links on my iPad! If you just google Scrapped Lives it is the first one that comes up for me, it is a Dutch blog in English. Look down the right hand bar and you will see Envelop Punch Board which will take you to it.
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Can you please provide a link for Scrapped Lives?
I never visited that site before but had time to go searching so ... here is the link to the entries about the punch board:

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I saw pretty things on the homepage so after you read about the punch board you might want to click the home tab (on the left side beneath the "filmstrip")


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When I look at my SU board, the measurements for 4 1/4 x 5 1/2 says 8X8 paper scored at 3 1/2 as listed above.
Jana, what does the SU board say for the other sizes: 4-Bar, A6 and A7? I just might have to get SU's board so I can also have formulas for the smaller envies as well.
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Jana, what does the SU board say for the other sizes: 4-Bar, A6 and A7? I just might have to get SU's board so I can also have formulas for the smaller envies as well.
It's my understanding that the SU board is the same as WRMK, just branded with the SU name. The first boards by WRMK had some incorrect measurements. They offered free labels with corrections, then the next batch of boards they sold had the correct measurements.

I don't think the SU board would be any different in those measurements you posted than the WRMK board.

I don't have the SU board, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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bugginok, you are correct. The boards are the same.
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I have both the original WRMK punch board and recently became an SU demo and purchased the SU branded version for demonstration purposes. I've attached photos and you can see the SU version (the brown coloured one in the photo) sizes differs from the original WRMK board (the grey & teal coloured one in the photo). For example the SU one has the correct card size of 4 1/4 x 5 1/2 whereas the original WRMK has it as 4 1/2 x 5 1/2 etc.

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The link for Scrapped Lives is no longer active. Is the envelope formula posted anywhere else?
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We R has an app now for envelopes for phone/ tablet it's available for android and apple just search for 'WE R Memory' in your play store or itunes
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It's called envelope generator.
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Here's a link to the envelope board measurement chart by WeR Memory Keepers:
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Thanks for these measurements! I couldn't figure out what was wrong with my measurement on my WRMC board. Murphy husband, the math whiz couldn't either. Now it looks so simple!
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Jana - from what I remember, that's the ONE difference between the SU version and the version available everywhere else - the Stampin Up board has the correct measurement for the A2 size envelope
The first version of the SU board had incorrect measurements, just like the first version of the original (non-SU versioni) board. WRMK released stickers to go over the incorrect table on the v1 boards. SU offered to take their v1 boards back and send corrected ones.

Anyone with a v1 WRMK board can print the correct table from a PDF provided by WRMK and affix it to their board. I'm not sure if they're still mailing out stickers, as later versions of the boards all have the corrected table. (Which, according to some, still has an incorrect measurement for one of the sizes, as I recall.)
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The link for Scrapped Lives is no longer active. Is the envelope formula posted anywhere else?
I have the Scrapped Lives formula as an excel spreadsheet. I hesitate to post it on open forum as it is not my creation but if you would like to pm me your email address I will send it to you.
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Look down the right hand bar and you will see Envelop Punch Board which will take you to it.
Er... Why are you just copying sentences from other people's comments?

ETA never mind, reported as spam.

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I have the Scrapped Lives formula as an excel spreadsheet. I hesitate to post it on open forum as it is not my creation but if you would like to pm me your email address I will send it to you.
Dear Ruth,
I'd really like to have the Scrapped Lives formula for the envelope punch board.
I don't know how to let you know my e-mail address, though.
Please give advice! Thank you.
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they have a free app... you can make any size envie...try it, you'll like it.
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they have a free app... you can make any size envie...try it, you'll like it.
Thank you very much. I've downloaded and tried it. It's impressive how each envelope calculator gives substantially different measurements by inserting the same width and height of the envelope. Still have to work out which one is the most accurate!
Thanks again.
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