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Old 11-30-2014, 10:24 PM   #1
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Provocraft change the rules too much for me to ever buy Cricut again. When my Cricut Expression dies I will be Cameo, there are awesome deals on upload cards and loads of images all over the internet.
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I had two crickets and I never really figured them out and I gave both of them away. I switched to a cameo and I love it. I discovered SVGcuts last year and since then my cameo works overtime cutting out all their really fun projects!

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Cameo the easy pick for me. I don't want to be online to cut my designs.
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Never had a cricket, always had a Silhouette. To me, having to buy cartridges make it too much like constantly having to buy dies- the freedom from that was what made the choice for me.I can buy one design, and with the huge array available for free on the internet, don't always even have to buy them.Pinterest will provide a wealth of links to those.
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Wow thanks for the advice. I was going in the direction of the Cameo Silhouette but wanted to make sure. Is the Silhouette the machine that will cut any fonts or clipart images you have on your computer?
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Wow thanks for the advice. I was going in the direction of the Cameo Silhouette but wanted to make sure. Is the Silhouette the machine that will cut any fonts or clipart images you have on your computer?
Sure will, great choice! You're going to love the Cameo.
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Yes, it is. In any size you require too- which was another big selling point for me. You can cut letters/numbers/words etc in a size to fit your project, not just 'close enough'. There are also many, many people on the net posting up free files, of the Nesties type, so you can cut alll sorts of shapes/mats/labels etc. If you want the embossed edge look of a Nestie, just cut a second shape slightly smaller, then run through your 'bug in an embossing sandwich! Or go around it by had and embossing stylus tool.
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Wow thanks for the advice. I was going in the direction of the Cameo Silhouette but wanted to make sure. Is the Silhouette the machine that will cut any fonts or clipart images you have on your computer?
I don't have a Cameo but I do follow this blog and hope it can help - Silhouette School
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Cameo. I only have the silhouette sd but I love it and will never sink another penny into a provo craft product.

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I wanted to add if your needing to cut anything heavy like chipboard (thicker than cereal box) or heavy acetate, etc... don't buy the Cameo. It's not made to be a heavy duty cutter. The motor was designed for detailed cutting so it takes lighter materials. Hasn't stopped a lot of people from trying to cut heavy items on it but you shouldn't do it.

I have an old Cricut I modded out for that purpose. I am tired of putting money into expensive die cutters. When I am in the market for a heavy duty cutter I am looking into the Sizzix Eclips.

I do love my Cameo. Best cutter for detail work on the market. I am a stickler for detail.
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I wanted to add if your needing to cut anything heavy like chipboard (thicker than cereal box) or heavy acetate, etc... don't buy the Cameo. It's not made to be a heavy duty cutter. The motor was designed for detailed cutting so it takes lighter materials. Hasn't stopped a lot of people from trying to cut heavy items on it but you shouldn't do it.

I have an old Cricut I modded out for that purpose. I am tired of putting money into expensive die cutters. When I am in the market for a heavy duty cutter I am looking into the Sizzix Eclips.

I do love my Cameo. Best cutter for detail work on the market. I am a stickler for detail.
that's one reason the klick n kut zing is on my wish list. It's supposed to be able to cut heavier things.
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that's one reason the klick n kut zing is on my wish list. It's supposed to be able to cut heavier things.
You won't be disappointed with the KNK. Mine cuts through chipboard like butter. The only issue is making sure the chipboard is secured on the mat. I make sure I have applied fresh Krylon and tape it down with painters tape. It's unbelievably powerful and super fast. I honestly don't use mine much since I've retired. I used it for large work related projects, it's a 24", that would have taken forever on my Cameo or Gazelle. I find my Cameo is my goto machine these days, since I'm mainly making cards. I use poster board or cereal weight material instead of chipboard and glue layers together rather than chipboard, if needed. It's a lot easier than setting up my KNK, since it's huge and in a separate area. Be sure to ask yourself how often you will really use it.
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Yes, it is. In any size you require too- which was another big selling point for me. You can cut letters/numbers/words etc in a size to fit your project, not just 'close enough'. There are also many, many people on the net posting up free files, of the Nesties type, so you can cut alll sorts of shapes/mats/labels etc. If you want the embossed edge look of a Nestie, just cut a second shape slightly smaller, then run through your 'bug in an embossing sandwich! Or go around it by had and embossing stylus tool.
That's a good tip, TFS! I have a Brother Scan n Cut but I can do the same thing with my shapes. I like the look of an embossed edge.
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You won't be disappointed with the KNK. Mine cuts through chipboard like butter. The only issue is making sure the chipboard is secured on the mat. I make sure I have applied fresh Krylon and tape it down with painters tape. It's unbelievably powerful and super fast. I honestly don't use mine much since I've retired. I used it for large work related projects, it's a 24", that would have taken forever on my Cameo or Gazelle. I find my Cameo is my goto machine these days, since I'm mainly making cards. I use poster board or cereal weight material instead of chipboard and glue layers together rather than chipboard, if needed. It's a lot easier than setting up my KNK, since it's huge and in a separate area. Be sure to ask yourself how often you will really use it.
Anne- I love your review of the KNK! Thank you for posting it. I seriously thought about buying a Zing. I don't need that kind of power any more on a machine. Then I thought about buying a Sizzix. I am like "Eh!" "Who cares!" I am happy with what I got. You did really help with my decision. I was kind of teetering to get a Zing.

I have been doing what you are doing. I am cutting out lighter chipboard with my Cameo and gluing it together. I think it looks prettier. I like that I can control how thick I want my "chipboard" to look.

Isn't that the truth about how big the KNK machines are! I always forget our machines need to be stored. You know I wish I never bought the Cameo. I would be happy with a Portrait. When my Cameo breaks down someday I will get a smaller Silhouette. That's the 2nd big reason why I won't buy the Explore. I miss my baby Cricut. She was a good machine.
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Girls/Guys reading this take in account for storing your machines. They will need a permanent spot. You need good clearance in the front & back for whatever machine you purchase.
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I have the cricut and the silhouette SD. I love the freedom of the silhouette. (the SD is mainly for paper not card stock) I'm working on getting the cameo, but most likely, not until after the first of year. I love all of my die cutters but if I were recommending one to buy for someone who is going to do the average amount of cutting, I would recommend the cameo simply because there is so many free cut files out there and the program that goes with it, well it SOOOO easy to create your very own cut file. I think that's HALF the fun. Plus,... there are free daily/weekly cut files from major contributors, including silhouette and Miss Cuttables. I go download the freebies each day/week, just in case!!


If you're asking what to purchase for your 1st and/or only electronic die cutter.

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You know, to add to my above comment....

I love my cricut, but I'm very annoyed with Provo Craft. They were so set on being prioritary that they lost a lot of us to silhouette. They could have devised their machines years ago to cut individual files, but all they saw was the all mighty buck. They wanted to sell those darn carts. They closed up the loop hole for those who were able to cut SVG files on their expressions with that program, as soon as they realized there was that hole. I don't blame a company for wanting to make money (as that is the purpose of running a business), but I just felt like they just wanting to keep bilk bilk bilking us out of money for those carts. Now, they want to play nice and allow their NEW machine to use SVG files.

Although, I do think of selling my cricut expression, gypsy, jukebox, and various carts and tools as a package. I love it and still use it. I'm not ready to sell it yet, but I do think about it. I don't have TOO many carts. I think I have about 25-30 actual carts and my gypsy that has about 50 on there. I am satisfied with what I have and the machine that I have cuts really well. Eventually, I will sell the stuff and move on to straight up Cameo only.

Thanks for letting me vent about Provo Craft. Like I said, I'm a bit annoyed with them.

I'm in agreement though, I don't plan on giving provo craft another dime,... ever.
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I cut card stock with my silhouette sd. I've cut bazzill, su, neenah and pti card stock with it with no problems. I usually double cut because sometimes the corners don't get cut perfectly on one pass but never had a problem with it cutting through. If there are no corners I don't double cut.

I've also cut fabric with it (with the silhouette interfacing on the back) and vinyl. I don't even know if I've ever even cut thinner paper in it.
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You know, to add to my above comment....

I love my cricut, but I'm very annoyed with Provo Craft. They were so set on being prioritary that they lost a lot of us to silhouette. They could have devised their machines years ago to cut individual files, but all they saw was the all mighty buck. They wanted to sell those darn carts. They closed up the loop hole for those who were able to cut SVG files on their expressions with that program, as soon as they realized there was that hole. I don't blame a company for wanting to make money (as that is the purpose of running a business), but I just felt like they just wanting to keep bilk bilk bilking us out of money for those carts. Now, they want to play nice and allow their NEW machine to use SVG files.

Although, I do think of selling my cricut expression, gypsy, jukebox, and various carts and tools as a package. I love it and still use it. I'm not ready to sell it yet, but I do think about it. I don't have TOO many carts. I think I have about 25-30 actual carts and my gypsy that has about 50 on there. I am satisfied with what I have and the machine that I have cuts really well. Eventually, I will sell the stuff and move on to straight up Cameo only.

Thanks for letting me vent about Provo Craft. Like I said, I'm a bit annoyed with them.

I'm in agreement though, I don't plan on giving provo craft another dime,... ever.
My plan is to keep the Expression until it dies and then I will pass on the cartridges here on probably a freebie as a kind crafter that was clearing out sent me her cartridges so I will pass it on.
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You know, to add to my above comment....

I love my cricut, but I'm very annoyed with Provo Craft. They were so set on being prioritary that they lost a lot of us to silhouette. They could have devised their machines years ago to cut individual files, but all they saw was the all mighty buck. They wanted to sell those darn carts. They closed up the loop hole for those who were able to cut SVG files on their expressions with that program, as soon as they realized there was that hole. I don't blame a company for wanting to make money (as that is the purpose of running a business), but I just felt like they just wanting to keep bilk bilk bilking us out of money for those carts. Now, they want to play nice and allow their NEW machine to use SVG files.

Although, I do think of selling my cricut expression, gypsy, jukebox, and various carts and tools as a package. I love it and still use it. I'm not ready to sell it yet, but I do think about it. I don't have TOO many carts. I think I have about 25-30 actual carts and my gypsy that has about 50 on there. I am satisfied with what I have and the machine that I have cuts really well. Eventually, I will sell the stuff and move on to straight up Cameo only.

Thanks for letting me vent about Provo Craft. Like I said, I'm a bit annoyed with them.

I'm in agreement though, I don't plan on giving provo craft another dime,... ever.
Vent away! I have been trying to bite my tongue but that latest PR stunt ProvoCraft is pulling was my final straw. I know so many of you are like "That was your final straw?" ROFL!

Have you all seen the newest one where ProvoCraft had a research company do tests on the Cameo & Explore? Then ProvoCraft posted the results on their front page. When I was a young college girl I worked a few months for one of those research companies. The company would make sure the clients would have the best test results. Even though they tested thoroughly when they gave the client the results that were most favorable to them. I understand it's all part of the game and advertising. Coke vs Pepsi, Apple vs Samsung. You see it all the time. I just didn't like the way ProvoCraft did it. It seems a bit shady to me.

Let Consumer Reports test the new Explore to the Cameo. I bet the results will be a lot more accurate with favorable and negatives for each company.

I know Silhouette reads the board. Maybe, they should do their own testing.

I love my Cricut too. I love the designs of old. My DH was talking about buying tools tonight. He asked me if I wanted another cutter. I really thought about it. I told him no. I told him I haven't bought a Cricut cartridge in five years. My Aqua Expression is older than the die cutting hills. I am good with my Cameo & Cuttlebug. I just put a computer in my art room so I don't have to rely on the Gypsy any more. I don't think I will be buying any more Cricut things either. I have always said I never blamed the machine. My heart goes out to the designers who worked for ProvoCraft. I think that's why I stayed so loyal for so long. I am big into supporting artists.

Plus, I don't want to be online to cut. I think that is so strange. I can't wrap my head around it, lol. I don't have to be online to use my printer. Why do I have to be online to use a plotter that falls under the printer category. It's a tech geek thing, I guess.
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Seeing as I have numerous electronic cutters....my best and fav must have combo is the Cameo and the Scan N Cut. Hands down
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OMG, forgot to mention my SNC. I really appreciated it today, when I cut out the pinecones on the SU Ornamental Pine stamp. Yep, no more fussy cuddy! I cut up a page full without a hitch. If one has these two machines, the Cameo & SNC, you're in business!
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This is why you need the Zing Air! It came out very shortly after I bought my Zing and I wish I had waited another couple weeks. They do have a motherboard swap out for the bluetooth card, but I have the space for mine on my desk.
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This is why you need the Zing Air! It came out very shortly after I bought my Zing and I wish I had waited another couple weeks. They do have a motherboard swap out for the bluetooth card, but I have the space for mine on my desk.
Do all laptops (modern, that is) have bluetooth capability? I honestly don't know if mine does. It's a few years old. Or can it be added?
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:23 PM   #32
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Do all laptops (modern, that is) have bluetooth capability? I honestly don't know if mine does. It's a few years old. Or can it be added?
If your laptop has a slot open for the card, then you can upgrade it to bluetooth.
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Old 12-09-2014, 12:19 AM   #33
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ha. I have no idea. There are slots. How do I know it's a bluetooth slot?
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What kind of computer do you have. You can google the make and model.

Here is a couple of links that can help you determine if you have bluetooth. If your computer is less than 5 years old, most likely it does.

The links below basically guide you the same way, but depending on how you comprehend things, one link might be better than the other. I know that I learn differently than some so I usually have to read different things that say the same thing but is worded differently. I sure hope that this helps.

How to Check if Your Computer Has Bluetooth: 8 Steps - wikiHow

How can i tell if my laptop has bluetooth - Microsoft Community

How to Determine If Your PC Has Bluetooth Capability - For Dummies
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ha. I have no idea. There are slots. How do I know it's a bluetooth slot?
The slots are generic and depending on what type of card you put in it determines the functionality. So you could put in a sound card, a video card, or a bluetooth card in a slot. I'm explaining this in very simple terms (don't want to offend you, but I don't know how much you understand computers)

Or.... you could take it to a place like Best Buy and ask one of their geeks to tell you if your computer is bluetooth capable.
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We don't have a best buy or any computer store (staples just closed recently). I'll have to look through all the device manager and stuff. I looked up the model number and the manual just shows generic bluetooth info but doesn't say if this model has it or not.

eta: the laptop is a toshiba satellite L755-S5244
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Gale, Just follow those directions and it should surely help you find it. It was simple but yet detailed. Let us know what you figure out.
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We don't have a best buy or any computer store (staples just closed recently). I'll have to look through all the device manager and stuff. I looked up the model number and the manual just shows generic bluetooth info but doesn't say if this model has it or not.

eta: the laptop is a toshiba satellite L755-S5244
You could contact Toshiba and ask if there is an optional bluetooth card you can install. Their tech people should know if it can be done.
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So I looked at the specs for this model. You can find it here. There is a link to this computer specs on PDF about 1/2 way down the scroll. Satellite L755-S5244 Support | Toshiba

On page 2 of the PDF it talks about the blue tooth. I would almost guarantee that it does simply because it is standard practice to include blue tooth since windows 7. It wasn't on all the the previous windows such as Vista, but by 7 it was pretty standard to include blue tooth on just about any electronic devices.

So, by looking at the specs you do have bluetooth. You can follow that step by step with the device manager and that should tell you in less than 5 minutes if you for sure have it or not.
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It doesn't have it. There is no bluetooth radios section and it's not in the network adapters section of the device manager.

I also checked the printers and devices window and it's not there either.
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