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Sorry, but the alcohol Copics will react to the EP and eat it up. :( You might try just using a good black ink like Brilliance Graphite Black or Memento Tuxedo Black. Good luck!
Sorry, but the alcohol Copics will react to the EP and eat it up. :( You might try just using a good black ink like Brilliance Graphite Black or Memento Tuxedo Black. Good luck!
well at least I know why. hmm haven't heard of the toxedo black. I tried my versa fine and the newest pad I have seems to take forever to dry. Anyone use the pallet noir black with copics I have heard good things on taht black but don't have it yet
well at least I know why. hmm haven't heard of the toxedo black. I tried my versa fine and the newest pad I have seems to take forever to dry. Anyone use the pallet noir black with copics I have heard good things on taht black but don't have it yet
As Versafine is an oil based pigment ink you're likely to get a smearing problem with that too if you use your Copics with it - the alcohol is going to affect the oil base. I use Brilliance (heat set), Ranger Archival or Adirondack dye ink with Copics but haven't tried the Memento or Pallet. I think heat setting is recommended with the Pallet but Memento is good to go straight away.
I've just recently started to experiment with copics. I have tried SU classic black, staz-on jet black and Momento tuxedo black. Staz-on is definately a NO-NO, Momento smeared (maybe I was supose to heat set it?).Best results were with my die hard SU classic, go figure. Just my experience, HTH.
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Sorry, but the alcohol Copics will react to the EP and eat it up. :( You might try just using a good black ink like Brilliance Graphite Black or Memento Tuxedo Black. Good luck!
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As Versafine is an oil based pigment ink you're likely to get a smearing problem with that too if you use your Copics with it - the alcohol is going to affect the oil base. I use Brilliance (heat set), Ranger Archival or Adirondack dye ink with Copics but haven't tried the Memento or Pallet. I think heat setting is recommended with the Pallet but Memento is good to go straight away.
HTH!
I didn't know that about versafine so that makes sense.
I've just recently started to experiment with copics. I have tried SU classic black, staz-on jet black and Momento tuxedo black. Staz-on is definately a NO-NO, Momento smeared (maybe I was supose to heat set it?).Best results were with my die hard SU classic, go figure. Just my experience, HTH.
oh thanks for the info. I like all but theblack pad su has. I just find it turns a purple color later on that I don't care for sorry
I have completely gotten rid of all my SU markers and now exclusively use COPICs. I stamp using the Palette (Noir Black) and have had few bleeding problems. I recently purchase Memento (Tuxedo Black) because I read that it is really the best. I still haven't opened it because I've been busy with another project. But, from what I've read, these two inks are the best to use.
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so after checking with our only 2 stamp stores neither carry the palatte or the memento in black. Where does everyone get theres?
You can get the Memento and the Palette at Ellen Huston, she has both kinds in her store. I personally prefer the the Memento. I have tried the Palette and if you don't let it dry long enough it can bleed. Also the kind of paper you use can make a difference, I like the PTI 110lb white cardstock. HTH.
Without embossing I had the best luck with Memento ink to not smear. If I want to emboss, I use clear embossing powder. It doesn't seem to react like the colored embossing powders.
If I'm using a pigment (heat-set pigment inks work particularly well with Copics), I like Brilliance Graphite Black a lot--it's my fave!
You can get away with embossing a black pigment with clear EP, but, if you use colored or metallic EPs, some sort of chemical reaction occurs between it and the Copics, and the Copics alcohol ink will literally etch/eat the EP right off the paper--weird, eh?! :shock:
I find that for me personally, Palette and Ranger Adirondack feather on me ever so slightly, for some reason. :?
And, I know lots of folks *love* Versafine, but, I swear I *never* have any good luck with that ink! I must be the only one on the planet, I guess . . . :rolleyes:
HTH,
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If I'm using a pigment (heat-set pigment inks work particularly well with Copics), I like Brilliance Graphite Black a lot--it's my fave!
You can get away with embossing a black pigment with clear EP, but, if you use colored or metallic EPs, some sort of chemical reaction occurs between it and the Copics, and the Copics alcohol ink will literally etch/eat the EP right off the paper--weird, eh?! :shock:
I find that for me personally, Palette and Ranger Adirondack feather on me ever so slightly, for some reason. :?
And, I know lots of folks *love* Versafine, but, I swear I *never* have any good luck with that ink! I must be the only one on the planet, I guess . . . :rolleyes:
HTH,
no you aren't the only one on the planet I have a girlfriend that is driving crazy by the versafine she really hates it.
And, I know lots of folks *love* Versafine, but, I swear I *never* have any good luck with that ink! I must be the only one on the planet, I guess . . . :rolleyes:
I love Versafine but not with Copics. Unlike most pigment inks, it's oil-based and that means the solvent in the markers is almost certainly going to react with it and smear. I use it if I'm watercolouring or using pencils but not if I'm going to colour with Copics.
Sorry, just realised I already said that! I seem to be having several conversations about Copics/inks/etc and I'm losing track of which one I'm in - am I too young for senior moments? Maybe not :rolleyes:
I love Versafine but not with Copics. Unlike most pigment inks, it's oil-based and that means the solvent in the markers is almost certainly going to react with it and smear. I use it if I'm watercolouring or using pencils but not if I'm going to colour with Copics.
I hear ya'!
One thing I've come to learn with Copics, is that you do have to experiment with paper, ink and the markers together to find the combo that gives you the results that you actually prefer, UKWIM?
I've found that I prefer heat set Brilliance Pigment inks + Neenah Classic Crest 80 or 110 lb. for Copics.
OR, if I don't have time to heat-set, I like A Muse Black or Memento Tuxedo Black dye inks + Neenah.
A lot depends on the absorbency rate of the card stock one is working with . . . at least, so it seems to me . . . ?
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One thing I've come to learn with Copics, is that you do have to experiment with paper, ink and the markers together to find the combo that gives you the results that you actually prefer, UKWIM?
Absolutely! I also tend to do a test stroke with each marker I plan to use on the same cardstock I have my image stamped on, even if I 'know' what colour it is. I hate it when you go straight in to an image that's almost totally coloured and end up saying "Nooooo! That's so not the colour I thought it was!" :lol:
copics and embossing powder problem
