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Unread 08-11-2017, 05:47 PM   #1
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I've been seeing some wonderful projects on this site, using Copic markers. Has anyone tried any of the many knockoffs? If so, which one? and why? Do I need alcohol markers for shading?
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Unread 08-12-2017, 06:46 AM   #2
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A lot of the "knockoffs" have been around as long or longer than Copics (Prismacolor, Shinhan Touch Twin, Letraset), so the term is a little misleading. If the intent of the question is about some of the lower-priced options out there, I can definitely speak to that.

I have a handful of Prismacolors that are easily superior to the lower-priced markers that I own, so I'll just say that first. BUT, I have all of the original Spectrum Noir colors (they recently added 48 more), and all of the Bic MarkIts. I use them all interchangeably, and am satisfied enough with what I'm able to produce.

The biggest difference you will find is more in the paper than the marker, in my opinion. Many people use Neenah Solar Crest or "blending card" made specifically for the brand (Copic or Spectrum Noir). Recently I read a description of a card I LOVED by Susieaustralia where she mentioned that she had printed a digi on plain printer paper and used her Copics on it and that it blended like a dream. I tested that out with my Spectrums and she's right - better than any of the cardstocks I've tried.

As far as "needing" alcohol markers for shading, the answer is "it depends". It depends on the look you're going for, the medium that you're comfortable with, etc. I used the Gamsol Magic technique for shading for years before getting any alcohol markers, and I enjoy doing watercolor, which also allows you to shade.

Hopefully I've helped answer your question at least a little. I'm sure others have opinions on this that can weigh in as well...
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I'm sure others have opinions on this that can weigh in as well...
Sue, I liked your edit reason.

Cher, I have spectrum noirs in addition to copics. They're... fine in terms of my not-too-advanced skills. I find that the spectrum noir colors are all more intense than copics, even the supposedly pale colors. Which is fine, you just have to expect that, so I usually have my color chart for my markers out when I am coloring.

One thing to realize is that if you really want to get in to shading with these markers, you do need ones that are close to each other in terms of shade (i.e., light sky blue, medium sky blue, dark sky blue). Copic tries to help with a numbering system, though it's not 100% accurate, IMO. Not sure how the other brands do it.

I mention this because while it's tempting to buy big 36-packs of markers, there generally are a lot of COLORS but not a lot of BLENDING groups, so if you start off with one of the big packs, you might be disappointed in what you can do.

But even if you don't blend, if you work reasonably quickly, I do like that alcohol markers generally won't show your brushstrokes.
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Sue, I liked your edit reason.

Cher, I have spectrum noirs in addition to copics. They're... fine in terms of my not-too-advanced skills. I find that the spectrum noir colors are all more intense than copics, even the supposedly pale colors. Which is fine, you just have to expect that, so I usually have my color chart for my markers out when I am coloring.

One thing to realize is that if you really want to get in to shading with these markers, you do need ones that are close to each other in terms of shade (i.e., light sky blue, medium sky blue, dark sky blue). Copic tries to help with a numbering system, though it's not 100% accurate, IMO. Not sure how the other brands do it.

I mention this because while it's tempting to buy big 36-packs of markers, there generally are a lot of COLORS but not a lot of BLENDING groups, so if you start off with one of the big packs, you might be disappointed in what you can do.

But even if you don't blend, if you work reasonably quickly, I do like that alcohol markers generally won't show your brushstrokes.
Good point on the "blending groups" - that's exactly why I have a handful of Prismas...
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Thank you, helpful information.
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If you can get to try out any different brands, do have a go (some stores may have trial markers or you could ask around crafty friends if you have anyone local). What suits one person doesn't necessarily suit the next. Nibs, barrel shape and ability to refill are all factors that might influence your decision. Even within one brand there can be different marker styles so it's worth experimenting if you can.
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