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Old 11-18-2011, 10:26 AM   #401
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What can happen is that when you go over your dark shade with the lightest is you can overblend to the point of lightening up your dark shade too much. But then you can always go over your shadow areas again.

I use cryogen, too, and to get good color coverage (shadows and proper blending) I also find I need to add more layers of color to get the saturation I want. But I should also tell you that I don't particularly like GinaK paper for coloring larger areas because I find that paper (by comparison to cryogen) can't be worked as much, especially if you color with a more heavy hand (which I have). Cryogen, it seems to me, can't be overworked.
Yeah, I think maybe I did overblend. I still liked the looks of it, it just didn't seem as striking as it probably could have. I understand what you mean about the GK cs.
I had to work a little harder to blend it. It was my base with the small flowers stamped directly on it with the large flower cut out and popped up. I will say that I love that cryogen paper. Blends well with no bleeding. Thanks for answering my question. I thought it could be over-blended. I don't have any real life people to ask these things so thank you. I hope to get a new camera for Christmas so I'll be able to post a picture when needed. That would really be helpful! LOL!
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You're welcome, Juble. You know, the only thing that matters is that you like the end result.
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It is easy to overblend images. Hold the card out at arm's length and squint at it. IF you seem to lose the definition, then darken the dark areas again.

People's eys are drawn to high contrast, so try coloring two of the same image, one really blended, and the other with darker shading and hold them both out and see what catches your eye more. HTH!
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It is easy to overblend images. Hold the card out at arm's length and squint at it. IF you seem to lose the definition, then darken the dark areas again.

People's eys are drawn to high contrast, so try coloring two of the same image, one really blended, and the other with darker shading and hold them both out and see what catches your eye more. HTH!
Thank you! I will try your suggestion. I really like these markers and any advice is appreciated
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I have been following all of the Copic posts for years and finally put together a "fill-in-the-blank" chart of of the recommended colors for Papertrey and Stampin' Up cardstock. It's downloadable on my blog. Just print it on the paper that you typically stamp on and fill in the blanks with colors that you own. Hope it helps!!
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Thanks for the charts Kim! They will be handy to have!!
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Kim, thank you so much for the charts - they are great!
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OT but did you know there was a character in one episode of Firefly named Juble?
No, I didn't. But I bet my hubs does. He loved that show!
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Yeah! Jubal Early was the bounty hunter that boarded the ship looking for River, right?
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Thank you so much for the chart, Kim!
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yes! you can even shade the rubber (start one side with one color and the other with another leaving the middle) and it looks fabulous!
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yes! you can even shade the rubber (start one side with one color and the other with another leaving the middle) and it looks fabulous!
Since the alcohol based ink dries so quickly, do you need to reactivate the ink right before you stamp the image? How?
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Since the alcohol based ink dries so quickly, do you need to reactivate the ink right before you stamp the image? How?
You can spritz it with rubbing alcohol. This Gina K tutorial explains it: A Day in the Life: Copic Markers...a new way!
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Does anyone know which per cent alcohol you should use? Both 70 and 91 per cent are available. Wondering if the 91 is too strong for the rubber.

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Hi ladies, I'm new to Copics and just bought my first 36 colors. Choosing those colors was one of the hardest decisions I've made in a while! I noticed most artists use the C greys and that's what I was planning to do but when I got home after my purchase I noticed I had bought N1,N3,N5, and C 9. I'm wondering if I should go back and get the C1,C3,C5 and maybe a lighter C7? Should I also get a N7,N9? Does anyone use the N series? I noticed at my LSS that sells Copics they don't even carry the N's. I was told C's for dead things, and W's for living things. T's to tone down colors. Where does that leave the N's? I just wonder if I'll get much use out of the N's I now own.

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N grays are truly neutral, not warm or cool. So they are very versatile. Actually, the N0 or N1 is one of our top 20 bestselling colors. You can layer those over any of the other colors you purchased to tone down the colors, or you can use them as a good, general gray color. Enjoy your markers!
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Hi ladies, I'm new to Copics and just bought my first 36 colors. Choosing those colors was one of the hardest decisions I've made in a while! I noticed most artists use the C greys and that's what I was planning to do but when I got home after my purchase I noticed I had bought N1,N3,N5, and C 9. I'm wondering if I should go back and get the C1,C3,C5 and maybe a lighter C7? Should I also get a N7,N9? Does anyone use the N series? I noticed at my LSS that sells Copics they don't even carry the N's. I was told C's for dead things, and W's for warm things. T's to tone down colors. Where does that leave the N's? I just wonder if I'll get much use out of the N's I now own.
I'm one of the rare ones that have all the greys and like using them!!! I think they have their particular place, cools for metals and good for hair. I like the warms for animals, but have used cools there as well (I'm still learning)..... I think you're getting my drift. And, don't even get me started on shadows and shading, check out Marianne's blog and book for all of that good info. I'm so glad I made the investment, and I got them during a sale, so how could I resist!
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I have e29 burnt umber from the set I bought, if you were to get another 2 shades what would be the ones you'd use primarily for hair? I see the colours but not sure on the what goes with what in brown. Thanks
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I have e29 burnt umber from the set I bought, if you were to get another 2 shades what would be the ones you'd use primarily for hair? ...
Bev Rochester uses E50 and E25 with E29 for hair. Here are some examples of what that combo looks like: All the things I love
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Since we are on the topic of all-things-Copic...Can we talk about the Copic Spica Glitter Pens? Who has them? How do you generally use them (ex: to add sparkle over Copic markers, or to accent areas without marker, etc??)? What colors do you use most? I've seen a few good deals on the 12 pks, but I'm not sure how often I'd use ALL of them...

Can anyone show me examples of projects you've done with them?

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I just bought a set of these and am new to copic's. I used the Spica Glitter pens to add a touch of sparkle to the sneakers and little heart on the t-shirt of one of my Mo Manning images. I used it over the copic colors and really liked the way it looked.

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Can anyone show me examples of projects you've done with them?

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I use the glitter pens all the time, mostly as an accent over colored areas. Trouble is, they are so subtle they don't photograph very well. It is not an overpowering glitter, nor is it a shimmer. It is a bunch of tiny glass flakes, so it just catches the light and is really pretty but not obnoxious.
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Does it make a difference if the Copic pens are stored standing or laying down? I see them stored both ways at different web sites, and would it be the same for the Spica Glitter pens?
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The markers can be stored either way, but to prolong the life of the glitter, glitter pens should be kept horizontal and not dropped or shaken, or all the glass flakes will get knocked around and not flow consistently throught the life of the pen.
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Hi,
I hope someone can help me with my copics problem.
I've only had them a couple of weeks and I love them but definitely still learning.
I've watched lots of tutorials and am using cardstock which has been recommended on lots of blogs, BUT...
I am getting very shiny areas on my colouring. Sometimes it's really noticeable, but usually you can only see it when you "tilt" the paper to the light.
It mainly happens when I'm "trying" to do hair and where I kind of outline something.
Is it that I've got too much ink on there?
I have watched hair colouring tutorials where they kind of go over and over it to get a good blend of colours but mine just seems to go shiny and "wet" looking in spots.
Could someone please suggest what I might be doing wrong.
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You aren't doing anything wrong... it is probably a combination of things. The shine happens when you have a lot of ink sitting on the top of the paper. The pigment pools up and sometimes becomes gummy and shiny. This typically happens with darker pigments in red, blue and brown.

It happens more often on a denser paper. Since the ink sits on top more, it doesn't feather or bleed out... but you can get the shine.

You could try a different paper or you could try using less ink... or even let the area dry a bit between each layer of color... this way the paper has time to absorb more ink and it won't sit on top as much.

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I hope someone can help me with my copics problem.
I've only had them a couple of weeks and I love them but definitely still learning.
I've watched lots of tutorials and am using cardstock which has been recommended on lots of blogs, BUT...
I am getting very shiny areas on my colouring. Sometimes it's really noticeable, but usually you can only see it when you "tilt" the paper to the light.
It mainly happens when I'm "trying" to do hair and where I kind of outline something.
Is it that I've got too much ink on there?
I have watched hair colouring tutorials where they kind of go over and over it to get a good blend of colours but mine just seems to go shiny and "wet" looking in spots.
Could someone please suggest what I might be doing wrong.
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Thanks so much Colleen.
I'll just keep practicing.
At least I know I'm not doing something really wrong.
Perhaps it's more of a finesse thing?

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Are you coloring a lot of tiny spaces where you are holding the marker totally vertical only using the very tip of the marker?

I had a situation where I was coloring a lot of tiny spaces and my dark blue started looking shiny and gummy. Colleen told me to carefully remove the nib and soak it in alcohol until it turned very light. Then put the nib back in the marker . When you put the nib back in lay the marker on the table and remove both end caps from the marker so the ink can equalize. It worked like a charm.
She said the dark colors have a tendency to get gummy if you use just the tip of the marker. You also need to use the side of the nib to keep the ink flowing.

Now I have a piece of scratch paper and periodically stroke the side of the tip on it when I am coloring a lot of small spaces. It keeps the ink from getting gummy.
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Wow Barbara. That sounds complicated to me LOL.
I'd be too scared to try!

But you're possibly right about the upright thing.
I didn't know about using the side of the nib and I don't even know what I do? I'll have to think more about it next time.

I have had it happen a few times but the main culprit is when I'm doing hair. I've done almost all of a brunette's hair it's looking pretty good, but I think, I might make it just a bit darker. I get the E39 out and it goes really kind of thick and shiny on it and just kind of looks like it sits on top of the card.
I probably am using the tip because I'm doing that "flicking/feathering" type thing that I've seen people do on hair tutorials.
Perhaps I'm holding it too upright and doing it wrong?

Thanks so much for your advice.
I'll keep trying

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You need to hold the marker totally vertical to get tiny spaces so this may happen again in the future if you don't periodically stroke the side of the tip on scratch paper . I use the flicking method most often too.

It is easy to get the nib out and back in to the marker
Do you have any 91% Isopropyl Alcohol? That is what you need.

Pour enough alcohol to cover the nib in a small container like the plastic measuring cap from cough syrup.
Use your fingers ( with a plastic glove if you wish) to gently pull out the nib. If you get ink on your fingers the alcohol will remove it.

Lay the marker on the table and and Put the nib in the alcohol to soak
When the nib looks light take it out of the alcohol and dab it on a paper towel. Then just put it back in the marker.
Remove both end caps and leave them off for a few minutes to allow the ink to equalize.
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One more thought. Next time you order anything for Copics buy a package of replacement nibs to have on hand in case you break one. Be sure they say SUPER BRUSH . I bought the wrong ones the first time

Here is a link to the correct ones . They are the second item from the bottom shown in green
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hmm...I have a very "shiny/streaky" look to mine when I an using Gina K white. I figured that it was just the "ultra smooth-ness" of the paper (it almost feel coated) so I stopped using that particular brand. I wonder if it is the same thing you are seeing.
I first started noticing it when I was coloring in the color chart (printed on Gina K) I thought I was doing something wrong since I was so new.

Let us know if Barbara's suggestion works out for you.

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I use Gina K's 120# weight for all of my card bases. I tried my Copics on it and the ink sat up top of the paper and got shiny too. I use either Neenah classic " Super Smooth" ( not the regular Neenah classic) or I use Hammermill "Color Copy Digital Cover". Both work well for me.

Another thing that can cause the ink to get thick and shiny is when was the last time you cleaned the inside of your marker caps?

If you have not cleaned them in a long time the ink can build up in the caps and prevent a tight seal when you put the caps back on. This allows the air to dry the ink in the cap and the tip

The inside of the marker caps needs to be cleaned every few weeks if you use them a lot.

If you have never cleaned them, Dip a Q-Tip in 91% Isopropyl Alcohol and twirl it around inside the cap to get the old ink out.
Hope this helps
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:51 AM   #437
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Thanks for your help Barbara.
I have only had my copics for a few weeks so I doubt the lids would need cleaning yet BUT I didn't even know you needed to do that! I would never have done it!!!
Is there any sites etc, that you would recommend reading to learn this stuff?
I tried to find some classes near me and I couldn't, so I've just been looking at a few tutorials online.
I haven't found anything with this kind of info on it though.

And the card I'm using it x-press it blending card and I have seen a lot of people recommend and use it, so unfortunately I'd say it's me with the problem - not the cardstock.
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I don't have a teacher either. We have no LSS within 30 miles and the one that is 30 miles away doesn't sell Copics or Teach Copic techniques. I firmly believe that a teacher for the basics "in anything" is the best way to learn. If you don't start with proper techniques you can struggle needlessly . After you learn the basics future classes are nice for enrichment, buy not critical.

However, Youtube and blogs is the only thing many of us have to learn.
I am eternally "grateful" to those who make the videos and write the tutorials. Without them many of us would not buy or try the products!

I saw how to clean the markers on "I Like Markers" Marianne Walker's blog.
She has a great site with a lot of Information
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Colleen also has a lot of great information too. She is a Copic certified teacher.
Distinctive Touches

Then I searched YouTube for specific Copic Techniques like how to use an airbrush.

Many people here post the colors they use. Check out Beate's site she always states the Copic colors she uses.
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This thread has great information too.

I am sure there are many other good blogs, these are my current favorites for Copics

Even if you have only had your markers for a few week I would suggest checking inside the marker caps to see if "some" need cleaning. Also Check the rim where the cap and the marker barrel meet. Ink collects there too and prevents a proper seal when marker is capped and the ink can get thick .
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Barbara has given GREAT advice here... if the ink on the paper is getting shiny and gummy... then there is too much ink on the paper in that one spot. It doesn't mean the paper is bad and it doesn't mean you are doing anything wrong... it just means the paper is fully saturated and can't take up any more ink. The denser the paper, the faster this will happen... (but the less you need to worry about feathering - pros and cons to ALL papers).

I like to use 6-10 shades and layers of ink... so I use a LOT of layers when coloring. I have learned to use a very little bit of ink for each layer to avoid this shine. But... it still can happen. So I know that when the paper starts looking "wet" then I need to stop and let it dry just a few seconds (30 or so) before adding more. This gives the paper time to soak up more ink instead of letting it sit on top. Now eventually, it won't be able to soak up any more and the ink will just sit on top and turn shiny and gummy. It's hard to fix after that point. (You can try to pull some of the gummyness off with the colorless blender marker, but this often just ends up messing it up and spreading it around.)

Barbara also mentioned using the side of the brush periodically. YES! If you find yourself using the tip a lot, then you might end up with the ink thickening up (from the dark pigments) inside the brush nib and then seeming gummy when it comes out. To solve this, do just like she said and carefully remove the nib, let it sit in a bag or container of blender solution or rubbing alcohol until it turns white or becomes mostly clean and then reinsert. Remember to periodically use the sides (all sides) of the brush tip to keep this from happening.

This site is a wonderful place to find info and the links that Barbara provided are good places too. Don't be afraid of asking questions... we are all here to help each other.

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Hi All,
After taking a very long hiatus from stamping/scrapping, I am now looking to jump back in with both feet! When I stopped years ago, I hadn't even heard of Copic markers. Now, I want in!!

I know the sketch markers aren't cheap.
Anyone know of a good source that is less than $5.24 per marker? I would like to get started on some basic colors, but then as time goes on, purchase more.

Thanks SO much, in advance!
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