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Old 04-03-2009, 12:19 PM   #2161
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Aghhh, I want to buy more Copics SOOO bad. I added them all up, to get the rest of the colors I need, without adding all the grays...$703! That sorta, kinda seems like a reasonable amount lol. I put them all in my cart at carpediem, then didn't do anything, I was so tempted to go all in debt for them though!

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My issue is the blender pen. No, I'm not using it to "blend" but you know how some people use it to blend out their image so the center is lighter. Well, It sure as heck does not work for me. Anytime I use that blender pen for anything except fixing a mistake....I ruin the image! Anyone have any hints or tips?
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When I use the blender pen, I just very lightly use it to add streaks or small light strokes - usually on flowers. I don't put a big spot anywhere or use it very hard. That is the only thing that works for me.
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I use my blender pen alot to make the clothes look a little worn. You kknow at the tips of shoes....knees of jeans...I put streaks in hair....I take color out on like benches......but i have just started learning wiht it.
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My issue is the blender pen. No, I'm not using it to "blend" but you know how some people use it to blend out their image so the center is lighter. Well, It sure as heck does not work for me. Anytime I use that blender pen for anything except fixing a mistake....I ruin the image! Anyone have any hints or tips?
I have the same problem, it makes a mess if I try to make a highlight in the middle of an image...I'm going to try what someone else suggested, somewhere, and that is to lay down the blender pen FIRST, then go over it with your colors. You have to be careful not to bleed too much then, but she said it makes the colors lighter in the first place. Worth a try....I do find that if you QUICKLY swab, it doesn't make as much of an obvious "spot."
I do think the "gradual" IS the key, because I have found I push my dark color out too much if my lightest color is TOO light. I'm going to try not going over it at all with the lightest color, just the middle color.
I have not had much success with the tip to tip method, myself! I find it gives me spotty color instead of a blend, and it's too light. I know, it's user error, but just thought I'd mention that...I have a little more success using the darker color on a palette.

Gale, which GinaK paper are you using, aren't there 2 weights? Maybe on the video she is using the lighter weight, and you have the heavier? Just a thought. I use the GP from WalMart, although it does bleed/feather (whatever is the proper term!) easily because it is so soft. I have tried a couple other papers and they are TOO absorbent, which makes it very very hard to blend...I get harsh lines instead.
Finally, I have better luck with some shades compared to others, for some reason...I can't find a purple group to save my life, that gives me a nice gradual blend without harsh lines or without bleeding out! But I like how the B00/B02/B04/B06 turns out...it's just weird! So, maybe trying another color group will even turn out better for you?!
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I'm using the 120 lb. I *think* that is what she mentioned on another video. Tonight I will try other papers/methods.
That's what I was thinking...some others have mentioned that is TOO absorbent. Maybe the 80 lb is easier to blend on...
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just wanted to say hello and I'm still here-just trying to learn how to use my new Copics. My internet's been down for a few days too. I got a few more colours and I'm starting to get a feel for the colours now. I still struggle when you try to get markers say two numbers apart but there's a big leap from a pastel colour to a bright. I seem to have mainly E colours too but I do do alot of animals so think I've got some good colours for them now.

I'm just trying to grasp the blending now! Now I've a few I started to think about storage and as I have bought in Ciao what I can and Sketch the others they don't do storage for mixed pens and to separate them would separate colours which isn't any good. Typical. Still need more colours-only one blue and two greens and no grey but keeping on top of the info on here and the blogs suggested-thank you all so much!
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Gale, I think your card looks great! What Copic colors did you use? I have some Gina K. paper on it's way right now. I ordered both weights, so I'll experiment with them.

I also have 22 Copics winging their way to me from Carpe Diem. Woo hoo!
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Gale I think your card looks really great! Don't be so hard on yourself, I really think you are doing a great job.
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Me again. I made this card tonight using PTI paper and you can see how it didn't really blend. I colored and colored for a LONG time too! And not only that but when I did the cheeks I went over the ice cream parts yet again! So I'm just going to have to keep trying I guess but in the meantime I'll have to be satisfied with this or else I'll go nuts.

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i think that's adorable! are you doing one section at a time with the blending? sometimes when i do one layer on the whole image and then go back with second layer and try to blend, everything is dry and blending isn't as easy. i haven't been keeping up around here lately so maybe that's already been said. at any rate, i think your coloring looks great!
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Gale, you card is adorable and you did a very nice job!
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I agree with everyone Gale that your card is great - I see what you are saying and I have this problem too, then I went and read some Manga and looked at the colouring and is very streaky in general you see the shade difference but what I also noticed is that instead of doing outline shading like with pencils I had to bring the darker colour in a bit more and let the lighter colour be a highlight normally in some sort of circular/oval shape and then blend the circular/oval border a bit.

I hope that makes sense.

Actually my little avatar is pretty good example of darks and lights within a color, though the color is grays. Sometimes you just have to have an edge and create the illusion for the eye.
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Gale firstly your card is gorgeous as is your colouring. What really impresses me though is your determination to succeed at this whole blending thing! I am new to this myself and it's so easy to become disheartened but I read your post and see your efforts and your determination becomes contagious! Thank you!

How about we quote this oft repeated phrase?

Can we blend with copics?

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If you're interested in Copic Tutorials in video & pdf form please check out my blog and my sidebar for a list of them. I've made a bunch of tutorials using a variety of images and techniques including a Tip's video & worksheet. I made these in response to so many asking me to do them and I hope they're helpful!

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Thanks so much Suzanne, your work is amazing!

Here is a link to Suzanne's blog: http://www.scrapbitz.blogspot.com/
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Thanks everyone. I agree that I am hard on myself and very determined! lol. I will not give up!

Riverisis-I totally understand what you mean. I should have brought in the darker color more toward the center rather than just the outline.

I did do one section at a time and I also had my lids all off so I could just grab and color.
Have you checked out any of Suzanne's tutorials yet? She used her darkest colour first, her mid tone and then her lightest and the way she shows her shading was a real "light bulb" moment for me. I am going to try her method and see how it goes. Just an idea for you...

I love how we are all "learning" together and eager to share our tips, ideas, etc. Makes you feel not quite so alone or frusterated doesn't it?!
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Me again. I made this card tonight using PTI paper and you can see how it didn't really blend. I colored and colored for a LONG time too! And not only that but when I did the cheeks I went over the ice cream parts yet again! So I'm just going to have to keep trying I guess but in the meantime I'll have to be satisfied with this or else I'll go nuts.

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Your card is adorable! You are doing a great job. Thanks for sharing!
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Yes I did-that's why I originally posted. I watched the videos and couldn't get it to work the way she did.
Ohhhh, I see. Hmmmm...it's funny how some techniques work great for one person and not for another....same with the whole paper/ink combo. I haven't tried her method yet but am eager to give it a shot. I guess it's still back to the whole practice, practice, practice thing lol.
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Loving this thread, just found a store that sells copic near me....hope to get some soon. Can only afford 3 right now, thinking of getting a brown, pink and a colorless to begin with!! I have some cupcakes stamps I would like to color!!
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You know they are like Lays potato chips, don't you. You can't stop with just one (or 3). I bought 2, and now have 20 (still not sure how that happened ). They sure are addictive little guys. I just wish they were as cheap as potato chips. (get it, cheap as chips, ha ha. that's what too little sleep gets ya.)

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Me again. I made this card tonight using PTI paper and you can see how it didn't really blend. I colored and colored for a LONG time too! And not only that but when I did the cheeks I went over the ice cream parts yet again! So I'm just going to have to keep trying I guess but in the meantime I'll have to be satisfied with this or else I'll go nuts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/gale2/40409b.jpg
what a great card! I see a little bit of a line in the colors but it still looks great! I had the same trouble with PTI, btw--again, it is TOO thick and absorbent. You need to get to WalMart and try the GP white there, or Gina's 80 lb
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Loving this thread, just found a store that sells copic near me....hope to get some soon. Can only afford 3 right now, thinking of getting a brown, pink and a colorless to begin with!! I have some cupcakes stamps I would like to color!!
Just keep in mind that you aren't getting any colors to blend with that way, so don't judge the Copics by these 3
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I agree with everyone Gale that your card is great - I see what you are saying and I have this problem too, then I went and read some Manga and looked at the colouring and is very streaky in general you see the shade difference but what I also noticed is that instead of doing outline shading like with pencils I had to bring the darker colour in a bit more and let the lighter colour be a highlight normally in some sort of circular/oval shape and then blend the circular/oval border a bit.

I hope that makes sense.

Actually my little avatar is pretty good example of darks and lights within a color, though the color is grays. Sometimes you just have to have an edge and create the illusion for the eye.
wow, you colored your avi? Do you have a bigger picture of it?? it looks great!
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Yeah I know I won't be able to blend with 3 but I am not very good at blending anyway...still need to finish reading Mariannes blog, I have started from the beginning. My partner is an achitect and he has about 10 Kurecolor pens from when he was in school....he wanted to continue to collect those but they are bulky and not available here so I am getting him hooked on copics instead....maybe he can buy some too and we can share them lol!

So I will have about 12 markers to play with...even though I won't have the similar colors to blend with....its a start....I also don't own many stamps that require coloring but I will get there eventually!

Any tips on a favorite pink and brown? Hoping to go to art store today
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wow, you colored your avi? Do you have a bigger picture of it?? it looks great!
Sorry no its from Dr Who but it is a good representation of coloring in a graphic style and that sometimes shadowing and color changes to indicate shadows are harsh, you smooth the edge of the color blend but the tone change isn't gradual.
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Sorry no its from Dr Who but it is a good representation of coloring in a graphic style and that sometimes shadowing and color changes to indicate shadows are harsh, you smooth the edge of the color blend but the tone change isn't gradual.
ahh, makes sense!

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Yeah I know I won't be able to blend with 3 but I am not very good at blending anyway...still need to finish reading Mariannes blog, I have started from the beginning. My partner is an achitect and he has about 10 Kurecolor pens from when he was in school....he wanted to continue to collect those but they are bulky and not available here so I am getting him hooked on copics instead....maybe he can buy some too and we can share them lol!

So I will have about 12 markers to play with...even though I won't have the similar colors to blend with....its a start....I also don't own many stamps that require coloring but I will get there eventually!

Any tips on a favorite pink and brown? Hoping to go to art store today
I actually was going to suggest using other alcohol markers to start with, but I was afraid I'd be flogged since this is the Copic thread.
Personally, I love E25 for brown; pink depends on if you want soft pink or bright pink...for soft, I like R20
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I actually was going to suggest using other alcohol markers to start with, but I was afraid I'd be flogged since this is the Copic thread.
Personally, I love E25 for brown; pink depends on if you want soft pink or bright pink...for soft, I like R20

Only problem with the other markers is most of them boring manly colors! There is a purple and a nice blue but others are kind of boring for me haha! Plus so excited I found a store that sells them...I just need to get my hands on some...cannot stop thinking about them!
Thanks for the suggestions, I have written them down and will see what the store has
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I tried it out (just doodling) on pti and it seemed to blend better. I think. I need to try a real project AND I need to get my journal thing made (the one Marianne told us to make) so I can try out different papers/colors/methods.
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I started the journal that Marianne told us too. I bought a small notebook and in the back I started writing color combos she uses and for what and in the beginning of the book I note all her tips that I think will apply to me. I've been working on the color combos that I actually come up with but that's still a work in progress to get organized.
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Yeah I know I won't be able to blend with 3 but I am not very good at blending anyway...still need to finish reading Mariannes blog, I have started from the beginning. My partner is an achitect and he has about 10 Kurecolor pens from when he was in school....he wanted to continue to collect those but they are bulky and not available here so I am getting him hooked on copics instead....maybe he can buy some too and we can share them lol!

So I will have about 12 markers to play with...even though I won't have the similar colors to blend with....its a start....I also don't own many stamps that require coloring but I will get there eventually!

Any tips on a favorite pink and brown? Hoping to go to art store today
My favorite pink is RV14 begonia pink. And my favorite brown is E37 Sepia, but I only have 78 copics, and I just got them 2 days ago, so not too much experience, but I've already colored lots of images, and LOVE these two colors. You can see some things I've colored here http://jamie2887.blogspot.com/
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My favorite pink is RV14 begonia pink. And my favorite brown is E37 Sepia, but I only have 78 copics, and I just got them 2 days ago, so not too much experience, but I've already colored lots of images, and LOVE these two colors. You can see some things I've colored here http://jamie2887.blogspot.com/
Wow your coloring is awesome! I went to the store a few hours ago and got E25 and R81 and a colorless blender...no idea what the colors look like as I was scared to open them to look incase I got told off!! I was completely lost and then forgot what the numbers stood for lol so ended up getting 2 colors that looked pretty lol! Maybe I will have better luck next time!!
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My favorite pinks are RV17 and RV25!

What are eveyone's favorite green? I would like to get some more greens as I don't think that I have enough.
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What does the V mean in RV17 please? Thanks!
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My favorite greens out of what I have are
YG95 (pale olive)
YG97 (spanish olive)
G24 (willow)
G28 (ocean green)
YG17 (grass green)
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:36 PM   #2194
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What does the V mean in RV17 please? Thanks!
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So if I started with R81 and E25 what colors should I get next so I can start to blend please? Still confused with the numbers lol!
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:46 PM   #2196
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My favorite greens out of what I have are
YG95 (pale olive)
YG97 (spanish olive)
G24 (willow)
G28 (ocean green)
YG17 (grass green)
Thanks Jamie!


To be able to blend colors it is good to skip one number in between the last digit. For example R81, R83 & R85. These would give you 3 different colors, but since they are close they would blend well together.

There is a great Copic color chart mostly completed with color samples that you can look at to give you an idea of what some of the colors look like. The link is posted somewhere on this thread. She also lists her top 20 (I think) choices for getting started with Copics.
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Cool! Thanks...will have to search through and see if I can find it! Copics are fun!
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The name of her blog is paper canoes. Try to google it and it should pull it right up, easier than sorting through all of these pages. Scroll down just a little and she also has some great samples of coloring with Copics.
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Thanks so much...of to check it out :0)
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I started the journal that Marianne told us too. I bought a small notebook and in the back I started writing color combos she uses and for what and in the beginning of the book I note all her tips that I think will apply to me. I've been working on the color combos that I actually come up with but that's still a work in progress to get organized.
I need some guidance in STARTING Marianne's blog -it is a little overwhelming! soo much great info----any suggestions?? TIA! ALSO- it is sooo very cool how Marianne jumps on the thread with help!!!
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